Native apps for Apple Watch will arrive this fall, Apple still won't reveal sales

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in Apple Watch edited May 2015
At next month's Worldwide Developers Conference, Apple will release a new software development kit that will allow applications to run natively on the Apple Watch, and those apps will become available to consumers this fall, the company confirmed on Wednesday.




Speaking at the Code Conference with Walt Mossberg, Jeff Williams revealed that native Apple Watch apps will be available this fall. Apple had already revealed that native Apple Watch apps would arrive this year, but the comments made by Williams on Wednesday confirm that they won't be available until late in 2015.

Developers will get their first peek at the updated Watch SDK on June 8, when Apple kicks off its annual WWDC event. The conference will begin with a 10 a.m. Pacific keynote presentation, where the next versions of iOS and OS X are also set to be unveiled.

On the current Watch OS, third-party applications for the Apple Watch are powered by a connected iPhone. Accessing those apps requires an iPhone to be in range and tethered.

But with the new software development kit, developers will be able to create new applications that will run natively on the Apple Watch, without the need for an iPhone to be connected.

As for Apple Watch sales, Williams unsurprisingly declined to give any numbers. But he did tell Mossberg on Wednesday that Apple has sold "a lot" of devices, and that sales thus far have been "fantastic."

Because the Apple Watch is a new product category with much hype and even greater expectations on Wall Street, Apple has publicly said it has no intention of revealing unit sales for the wearable device in the near future. Revenue from the Apple Watch, iPods, and other smaller product categories will be lumped together on future earnings reports.
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  • Reply 1 of 27
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    That should add considerably to other's app responsiveness.
  • Reply 2 of 27
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    Revenue from the Apple Watch, iPods, and other smaller product categories will be lumped together on future earnings reports.

    And again, it should fairly easy to figure out what percentage of income that represents, even with factoring in declining iPod sales. Trying to figure out which watches that represents will be a little more complicated, especially since there will be Edition sales in the next earnings call in July.

  • Reply 3 of 27
    brlawyerbrlawyer Posts: 828member
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    Originally Posted by Mac_128 View Post

     

    And again, it should fairly easy to figure out what percentage of income that represents, even with factoring in declining iPod sales. Trying to figure out which watches that represents will be a little more complicated, especially since there will be Edition sales in the next earnings call in July.




    Apple only "lumps" them together when they are not substantial enough to brag about...even more evidence that the AW is an abysmal failure, chinese dogs wearing Edition watches and all.

  • Reply 4 of 27
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    brlawyer wrote: »

    Apple only "lumps" them together when they are not substantial enough to brag about...even more evidence that the AW is an abysmal failure, chinese dogs wearing Edition watches and all.

    Except well before Apple Watch went on sale Apple said it would be reporting Watch figures in the "other" category. Going by your logic the iPod was an abysmal failure too. It didn't really take off until 2004.
  • Reply 5 of 27
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Here's an interesting Q&A:

    Question: About revenue growth at Apple, about 65% of revenue comes from the iPhone. My concern is that the Watch won’t be the next $10-$20 billion business. Can you talk about industries that Apple is at least looking at with your giant stack of money?

    Williams: The car is the ultimate mobile device. We look at many categories, we’re exploring a lot of interesting areas.

    According to the recode live blog apparently Williams dialed this back to say he was talking about CarPlay. Of course not surprised by that but I think it's pretty clear he's talking about more than just CarPlay. No way Apple will get a $10-$20B business out of that. Plus Apple has never been very successful being technology in someone else's product. CarPlay is just an interim step on the way to Apple's own car.
  • Reply 6 of 27
    thewhitefalconthewhitefalcon Posts: 4,453member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brlawyer View Post

     



    Apple only "lumps" them together when they are not substantial enough to brag about...even more evidence that the AW is an abysmal failure, chinese dogs wearing Edition watches and all.




    You really shouldn't stake your personal happiness on the success or failure of the Watch. It's just going to depress you when they continue to sell more and more. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 7 of 27
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,403member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brlawyer View Post

     

    Apple only "lumps" them together when they are not substantial enough to brag about...even more evidence that the AW is an abysmal failure, chinese dogs wearing Edition watches and all.


    Quit your usual nonsense.

  • Reply 8 of 27
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member
    brlawyer wrote: »

    Apple only "lumps" them together when they are not substantial enough to brag about...even more evidence that the AW is an abysmal failure, chinese dogs wearing Edition watches and all.

    Or they hidding what they are really doing, ATV is in that other category and it came out last year what Apple shipped 25M ATV that is not a failure but allow Apple to fly under the radar for the most part without letting the compeition know how much success they were really having.
  • Reply 9 of 27
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
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    Originally Posted by Maestro64 View Post





    Or they hidding what they are really doing, ATV is in that other category and it came out last year what Apple shipped 25M ATV that is not a failure but allow Apple to fly under the radar for the most part without letting the compeition know how much success they were really having.



    While tis is true, it would have to happen at the expense of the iPod line. So either iPods have been doing much worse than we know, or the ATV is selling about as well as it ever has. 

  • Reply 10 of 27
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,092member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brlawyer View Post

     



    Apple only "lumps" them together when they are not substantial enough to brag about...even more evidence that the AW is an abysmal failure, chinese dogs wearing Edition watches and all.




    And here we go again.  Resident whiner getting on his soapbox blowing his usual trolling rhetoric.  There is no "evidence" to substantiate your nonsense.  What you are doing is trying to pass of your hatred as fact.  It's obvious you have a chip on your shoulder and will try passing whatever nonsense you fabricate as truth.



    Go away and keep BF company.

     

  • Reply 11 of 27
    slprescottslprescott Posts: 765member
    His answer on Watch unit sales reminds me of the understated wording on the tombstone of Buffy:

    "She saved the world. A lot."
  • Reply 12 of 27
    paulmjohnsonpaulmjohnson Posts: 1,380member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brlawyer View Post

     



    Apple only "lumps" them together when they are not substantial enough to brag about...even more evidence that the AW is an abysmal failure, chinese dogs wearing Edition watches and all.




    Yeah, right.  That'll explain why demand is still far outstripping supply!

  • Reply 13 of 27
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    brlawyer wrote: »

    Apple only "lumps" them together when they are not substantial enough to brag about...even more evidence that the AW is an abysmal failure, chinese dogs wearing Edition watches and all.

    troll hard, dude! it's all you've got left, now.
  • Reply 14 of 27
    suddenly newtonsuddenly newton Posts: 13,819member
    Quit your usual nonsense.

    He needs to troll about something until he can say Android Wear is winning. Because currently, it is by all measures, not winning.
  • Reply 15 of 27
    jbdragonjbdragon Posts: 2,305member
    jfc1138 wrote: »
    That should add considerably to other's app responsiveness.

    This has also why it's better to wait for a second generation device if you can. By the time this it released and apps start coming out, a new Apple Watch will be in the horizon and when you get it, you'll have naive app support right of the bat with the better, newer watch.
  • Reply 16 of 27
    suddenly newtonsuddenly newton Posts: 13,819member
    nolamacguy wrote: »
    troll hard, dude! it's all you've got left, now.

    The new troll meme:
    Apple hasn't produced anything new since Steve died.
    Apple's new Watch isn't selling because Apple isn't releasing numbers.
  • Reply 17 of 27
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    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post





    The new troll meme:

    Apple hasn't produced anything new since Steve died.

    Apple's new Watch isn't selling because Apple isn't releasing numbers.



    even additional bands are long order times still...

  • Reply 18 of 27
    phone-ui-guyphone-ui-guy Posts: 1,019member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mac_128 View Post

     
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    Revenue from the Apple Watch, iPods, and other smaller product categories will be lumped together on future earnings reports.

    And again, it should fairly easy to figure out what percentage of income that represents, even with factoring in declining iPod sales. Trying to figure out which watches that represents will be a little more complicated, especially since there will be Edition sales in the next earnings call in July.


     

    I think it will be near impossible. Pretty sure the iTunes and App Stores are in the same bucket.

  • Reply 19 of 27
    monstrositymonstrosity Posts: 2,234member

    I bought two today. One for each arm.

     

    OK the second one was for my wife :)

  • Reply 20 of 27

    Dude, "still?"  Apple said the watch was going to be reported as part of the "other" category.  Don't look for it anywhere else until 2020.

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