Why do I get this feeling if we were talking about Android or Samsung people would be making fun of the 'bloatware'? But with Apple it's shove them in a folder and shut up. It seems every new iOS release we get another new app or two that aren't removable. I'd call that bloatware.
Why can't people understand this, 1st party Apps, Part of the OS and 3rd party Crapware. Take for example Windows, Moviemaker I've never used. The games that are thrown on I never used. I can go on and on at the number of programs on Windows I never use but are part of the OS. Now when you also throw on McAfee Anti-Virus software, that's 3rd party crapware!!!! That is NOT part of the OS.
The same goes for Android. Anything part of Android that's 1st party, you may never use is still part of Android. I don't see any iOS users knocking that. It's the bloatware added on top of Android!!! All that 3rd party CRAPWARE!!! Why people have a hard time understanding this?!?!?! Apple has ZERO 3rd party bloatware, crapware, whatever you want to call it installed on iOS!!! There's also never been other company's branding, Logo's printed on the outside of a iPhone. Like AT&T and Sprint and so forth like you see on most every other phone.
Since early days of IOS and native apps, Apple has hardly done any work to improve Calendat App. If Apple can enhance calendar app little more than that would be big help than making find my iphone app native. I can always download find my iphone app if I need to. How in a world find my iphone app helps when iphone itself is missing which has such app installed. We using icloud to search missing iphone and it works well so what's point of making such app native. And trust me friends or family members including highschool or college kids not like to be tracked by their parents. So, find my iphone app is not must have native app.
You must not understand the function. To find a lost/misplaced phone/ipad the service must be installed and working. iCloud could not find a phone with Find My Phone active.
Find My Friends uses the service slightly differently. The iPhone is not lost. But the person might be. Recently my granddaughter was biking in an unfamiliar neighborhood and did not know how to get home. When she called me I used Find My Friends to locate and give her directions.
My granddaughter and grandson have iPhones that I supply. A condition of having the phones was that Find My Friends would always be on so I could find them if necessary. Over protective? Maybe, but it is my choice.
Why do I get this feeling if we were talking about Android or Samsung people would be making fun of the 'bloatware'? But with Apple it's shove them in a folder and shut up. It seems every new iOS release we get another new app or two that aren't removable. I'd call that bloatware.
Yep,... that is because it is bloatware. But Apple is the one doing it now so People will try and spin it left and right - or just put their head in the sand.
I sure don't want to be tracked by anyone, family or friends, and I'm sure none of them do either, I mean why? Seems over bearing to me. That might be something a Parent would do with their 12 year old maybe, but really, who wants this?
I fish a lot and my friends and I find it most helpful. A message "I found them." and everyone can find me. "I am broke down and need a tow" results in rapid response. There are not many roadsigns on a large lake.
My app group is called useless shit. Maps is in it as well.
I like this find my friends. My girlfriend and I use it all the time with each other. When she's out with friends downtown on campus it let's me have that extra safety measure.
I just find it creepy!!! This is something a overbearing Girlfriend might love. Now not only calling you every hour and make sure you're doing what you're suppose to be doing, but can make sure you are where you said you are suppose to be. I don't want friends and family tracking where I am and I don't know any of them that would want that either. Maybe a parent wanting to track their Kids?!?! I just think it's taking things a bit to far. Maybe the NSA can hack into this Data and now simply track people using this. I have no need to know a friend is at a gas station or wherever else. Why?
Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it needs to be done.
Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it needs to be done.
Kind of a narrow view, if I may say so. Anything can be "creepy" in the wrong hands.
When my daughter moved a thousand miles away, by herself, towing a trailer with no prior experience, it was better for her for me to check her progress myself via Find My Friends, rather than pester/distract her with calls and texts. Knowing her itinerary before she set out, it was reassuring to confirm that nothing had gone awry. You know, a safety thing.
Once she reached her destination, Find My Friends had served its purpose, and we "unfollowed" each other.
I just find it creepy!!! This is something a overbearing Girlfriend might love.
As ever, the devil is in the detail. My wife and I use it occasionally, usually when we've agreed to rendezvous somewhere. We trust each other sufficiently that we won't spy on the other. In situations where there isn't that level of trust, just turn it off or enable it for a temporary period.
Tracking is a concern but it's unavoidable. Assuming you have an iPhone and use it for calls, the network tracks you - it has to, how else would it deliver an incoming call to you? My car has an inbuilt mobile phone connection so it can automatically phone for help if I have a big crash (and all new cars sold in Europe will have to have this soon), is that a worthwhile tradeoff?
I'm pleased that they're building-in both these apps as I use both of them; I presume that they will actually use less storage as a result. Trouble is, we all have different priorities but Apple is addressing giving us more storage (well, more efficient use of storage) so try to see it as yet another tradeoff.
Yes when you threaten, it does work. Do you think that parents don't think about those simple notion, privileges being parents. You also have to consider that when you start becoming jerk parents to make your college kids to be tracked threatening to take away their phones than in future typically what happens in western culture you see what goes around comes around. Always.
I wish Apple would at least give us an option to not show these apps like the do with the iCloud Drive app. Quite telling that it's the only Apple app that can be hidden.
Why do I get this feeling if we were talking about Android or Samsung people would be making fun of the 'bloatware'? But with Apple it's shove them in a folder and shut up. It seems every new iOS release we get another new app or two that aren't removable. I'd call that bloatware.
the difference is, these are useful apps, even if the technocrati blogger elite have replacements (Overcast for Podcasts, etc) and dont want to use them. whereas bloatware on android is the sort of carrier-mandated garbage nobody actually wants to use. apple's decision is to make them permanent so un-savvy users can locate them (believing it or not, it is difficult for my dad to find apps in the app store...so he doesnt do it very often). the opportunity cost to apple for doing so is......wait for it......$0. a few technocrat whiners on the rumor sites isnt a problem.
I sure don't want to be tracked by anyone, family or friends, and I'm sure none of them do either, I mean why? Seems over bearing to me. That might be something a Parent would do with their 12 year old maybe, but really, who wants this?
you can send your location to a friend and limit it to a short duration, like the time during which youre both at an outdoor festival. comes in handy.
Yep,... that is because it is bloatware. But Apple is the one doing it now so People will try and spin it left and right - or just put their head in the sand.
yeah either that, or you dont know what bloatware means.
I just find it creepy!!! This is something a overbearing Girlfriend might love. Now not only calling you every hour and make sure you're doing what you're suppose to be doing, but can make sure you are where you said you are suppose to be. I don't want friends and family tracking where I am and I don't know any of them that would want that either. Maybe a parent wanting to track their Kids?!?! I just think it's taking things a bit to far. Maybe the NSA can hack into this Data and now simply track people using this. I have no need to know a friend is at a gas station or wherever else. Why?
Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it needs to be done.
Well my girlfriend (soon to be fiancée) and I find it useful for several things the least of which is safety. When she's out on the college campus late at night it's nice to know that "if" the unfortunate should happen I could find her location. Safety is a big deal.
The two biggest complaints about both apps is the lack of accuracy. People have been accused of cheating because GPS says their BF/GF was at the hot neighbors pool. Find my iPhone said my iPod was in my yard when it was under my couch. If you lose your iPhone in public like a mall for example, you're screwed.
Didn't Apple aquire a GPS tech that's accurate by centimeters? Not only would this improve the apps it will make them pleasant to use.
I also think the name Find my iPhone ironic. It should be renamed to something else "Find my device" or something.
Find My iPhone and Find My Friends sound like perfect integrated NSA apps. Why now are they installed by default? Right around the same time Apple is being very vocal that the government stop pressuring them for back doors. Sounds like a smoke screen.
Taking off the tin foil hat, I have both of the apps installed and use them regularly.
i can always download find my iphone app if I need to. How in a world find my iphone app helps when iphone itself is missing which has such app installed. We using icloud to search missing iphone and it works well so what's point of making such app native.
Apple dropped the "my" branding a while back for the actual app, only in the iCloud settings do you see "Find my iPhone". One could then come to try conclusion that the app is not for tracking the phone you lost but helping someone else find their lost device.
I use Find Friends all the time when I am out, I have a very bad habit of being out to meet friends with my phone on silent missing text or phone calls but they never have an issue meeting up with me because I share my location.
On my iPhone, I currently have 20 apps in the 'Never Use' folder, being the only icon on the home screen page to the far right. With iOS 9 it will contain 22 apps.
Apparently Apple has been copying a lot of features from Android to iOS9 (lowercase keyboard, split screen, Google Now functionality, ...), but there is absolutely no reason to copy the bloatware as well.
Among my 20 closest friends only 1 has an iPhone, so Find my Friend is absolutely useless
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Why do I get this feeling if we were talking about Android or Samsung people would be making fun of the 'bloatware'? But with Apple it's shove them in a folder and shut up. It seems every new iOS release we get another new app or two that aren't removable. I'd call that bloatware.
Why can't people understand this, 1st party Apps, Part of the OS and 3rd party Crapware. Take for example Windows, Moviemaker I've never used. The games that are thrown on I never used. I can go on and on at the number of programs on Windows I never use but are part of the OS. Now when you also throw on McAfee Anti-Virus software, that's 3rd party crapware!!!! That is NOT part of the OS.
The same goes for Android. Anything part of Android that's 1st party, you may never use is still part of Android. I don't see any iOS users knocking that. It's the bloatware added on top of Android!!! All that 3rd party CRAPWARE!!! Why people have a hard time understanding this?!?!?! Apple has ZERO 3rd party bloatware, crapware, whatever you want to call it installed on iOS!!! There's also never been other company's branding, Logo's printed on the outside of a iPhone. Like AT&T and Sprint and so forth like you see on most every other phone.
Since early days of IOS and native apps, Apple has hardly done any work to improve Calendat App. If Apple can enhance calendar app little more than that would be big help than making find my iphone app native. I can always download find my iphone app if I need to. How in a world find my iphone app helps when iphone itself is missing which has such app installed. We using icloud to search missing iphone and it works well so what's point of making such app native. And trust me friends or family members including highschool or college kids not like to be tracked by their parents. So, find my iphone app is not must have native app.
You must not understand the function. To find a lost/misplaced phone/ipad the service must be installed and working. iCloud could not find a phone with Find My Phone active.
Find My Friends uses the service slightly differently. The iPhone is not lost. But the person might be. Recently my granddaughter was biking in an unfamiliar neighborhood and did not know how to get home. When she called me I used Find My Friends to locate and give her directions.
My granddaughter and grandson have iPhones that I supply. A condition of having the phones was that Find My Friends would always be on so I could find them if necessary. Over protective? Maybe, but it is my choice.
Why do I get this feeling if we were talking about Android or Samsung people would be making fun of the 'bloatware'? But with Apple it's shove them in a folder and shut up. It seems every new iOS release we get another new app or two that aren't removable. I'd call that bloatware.
Yep,... that is because it is bloatware. But Apple is the one doing it now so People will try and spin it left and right - or just put their head in the sand.
I sure don't want to be tracked by anyone, family or friends, and I'm sure none of them do either, I mean why? Seems over bearing to me. That might be something a Parent would do with their 12 year old maybe, but really, who wants this?
I fish a lot and my friends and I find it most helpful. A message "I found them." and everyone can find me. "I am broke down and need a tow" results in rapid response. There are not many roadsigns on a large lake.
My app group is called useless shit. Maps is in it as well.
I like this find my friends. My girlfriend and I use it all the time with each other. When she's out with friends downtown on campus it let's me have that extra safety measure.
I just find it creepy!!! This is something a overbearing Girlfriend might love. Now not only calling you every hour and make sure you're doing what you're suppose to be doing, but can make sure you are where you said you are suppose to be. I don't want friends and family tracking where I am and I don't know any of them that would want that either. Maybe a parent wanting to track their Kids?!?! I just think it's taking things a bit to far. Maybe the NSA can hack into this Data and now simply track people using this. I have no need to know a friend is at a gas station or wherever else. Why?
Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it needs to be done.
My own two college kids whose uses iphones bought by me and monthly plan paid by me still refuse to be tracked by find my iphone app..
1. Pay for kids service
2. Kids refuse to be tracked
3. Stop paying for service
4. Kids turn on tracking
Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it needs to be done.
Kind of a narrow view, if I may say so. Anything can be "creepy" in the wrong hands.
When my daughter moved a thousand miles away, by herself, towing a trailer with no prior experience, it was better for her for me to check her progress myself via Find My Friends, rather than pester/distract her with calls and texts. Knowing her itinerary before she set out, it was reassuring to confirm that nothing had gone awry. You know, a safety thing.
Once she reached her destination, Find My Friends had served its purpose, and we "unfollowed" each other.
I just find it creepy!!! This is something a overbearing Girlfriend might love.
As ever, the devil is in the detail. My wife and I use it occasionally, usually when we've agreed to rendezvous somewhere. We trust each other sufficiently that we won't spy on the other. In situations where there isn't that level of trust, just turn it off or enable it for a temporary period.
Tracking is a concern but it's unavoidable. Assuming you have an iPhone and use it for calls, the network tracks you - it has to, how else would it deliver an incoming call to you? My car has an inbuilt mobile phone connection so it can automatically phone for help if I have a big crash (and all new cars sold in Europe will have to have this soon), is that a worthwhile tradeoff?
I'm pleased that they're building-in both these apps as I use both of them; I presume that they will actually use less storage as a result. Trouble is, we all have different priorities but Apple is addressing giving us more storage (well, more efficient use of storage) so try to see it as yet another tradeoff.
thanks for letting us know. i will ensure it gets recorded properly so this fact is not lost to future generations...
1. Pay for kids service
2. Kids refuse to be tracked
3. Stop paying for service
4. Kids turn on tracking
Yes when you threaten, it does work. Do you think that parents don't think about those simple notion, privileges being parents. You also have to consider that when you start becoming jerk parents to make your college kids to be tracked threatening to take away their phones than in future typically what happens in western culture you see what goes around comes around. Always.
what does it tell?
the difference is, these are useful apps, even if the technocrati blogger elite have replacements (Overcast for Podcasts, etc) and dont want to use them. whereas bloatware on android is the sort of carrier-mandated garbage nobody actually wants to use. apple's decision is to make them permanent so un-savvy users can locate them (believing it or not, it is difficult for my dad to find apps in the app store...so he doesnt do it very often). the opportunity cost to apple for doing so is......wait for it......$0. a few technocrat whiners on the rumor sites isnt a problem.
you can send your location to a friend and limit it to a short duration, like the time during which youre both at an outdoor festival. comes in handy.
yeah either that, or you dont know what bloatware means.
Well my girlfriend (soon to be fiancée) and I find it useful for several things the least of which is safety. When she's out on the college campus late at night it's nice to know that "if" the unfortunate should happen I could find her location. Safety is a big deal.
People have been accused of cheating because GPS says their BF/GF was at the hot neighbors pool. Find my iPhone said my iPod was in my yard when it was under my couch. If you lose your iPhone in public like a mall for example, you're screwed.
Didn't Apple aquire a GPS tech that's accurate by centimeters? Not only would this improve the apps it will make them pleasant to use.
I also think the name Find my iPhone ironic. It should be renamed to something else "Find my device" or something.
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I keep utilities in its folder and everything else Apple in a "?" folder. Looks sleek and official.
*Am I the only one who hates going through email??
Find My iPhone and Find My Friends sound like perfect integrated NSA apps. Why now are they installed by default? Right around the same time Apple is being very vocal that the government stop pressuring them for back doors. Sounds like a smoke screen.
Taking off the tin foil hat, I have both of the apps installed and use them regularly.
Apple dropped the "my" branding a while back for the actual app, only in the iCloud settings do you see "Find my iPhone". One could then come to try conclusion that the app is not for tracking the phone you lost but helping someone else find their lost device.
I use Find Friends all the time when I am out, I have a very bad habit of being out to meet friends with my phone on silent missing text or phone calls but they never have an issue meeting up with me because I share my location.
On my iPhone, I currently have 20 apps in the 'Never Use' folder, being the only icon on the home screen page to the far right. With iOS 9 it will contain 22 apps.
Apparently Apple has been copying a lot of features from Android to iOS9 (lowercase keyboard, split screen, Google Now functionality, ...), but there is absolutely no reason to copy the bloatware as well.
Among my 20 closest friends only 1 has an iPhone, so Find my Friend is absolutely useless