Its (sic erat scriptum) the liberals that have all the rage? Really? IMHO it's usually a state of mind exhibited by those on the extreme edge of society's thinking (or not thinking) processes.
Here's the thing. Surprisingly, all nine justices specifically emphasized the importance of religious freedom and right of expression (genuinely shocked that all nine did). But, what this still does is open the door to more lawsuits. We'll be seeing more of "That mean pastor wouldn't let us get married in his church" or "That mean radio host said he disagrees with gay marriage" or "That mean baker wouldn't make me a wedding cake"
And given how the court cases for people have been going already, this will just make things worse for people who object on religious grounds.
That was sort of settled when "That mean store wouldn't let me sit at the lunch counter" became the description of an illegal discriminatory act. Perform whatever quaint religious ceremony one prefers (though you'd better refrain from stoning people you catch working on Sunday or wearing polyester-cotton blends any time), what RFRA is about. While out in the public sphere? Equal protection under the law.
Furthermore baking isn't a religious act, while I'm a little more ambiguous about a wedding photographer who attends an actual ceremony. Attendance would seem to almost inevitably brush up against "participation".
Its (sic erat scriptum) the liberals that have all the rage? Really? IMHO it's usually a state of mind exhibited by those on the extreme edge of society's thinking (or not thinking) processes.
Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.
Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Look forward to the Obama administration to force mosques to marry gay couples.
Oh, that probably won't happen.
I don't think this is a rational fear (forcing religious groups to perform a marriage ceremony against their religion), at least not from what I'm reading (eg: http://www.pewforum.org/2011/03/31/churches-in-court1/). A quick excerpt from this article:
Quote:
Although the four types of cases raise different legal issues, court rulings on all these matters have been consistent regarding one important principle: The government must not regulate religious entities in any way that would require a judge or other government official to interpret religious doctrine or rule on theological matters. At times, this “hands-off” principle might require courts to treat religious organizations differently from their secular counterparts. For example, a court can easily rely on contract and corporate law to resolve a dispute between a secular company and one of its subsidiaries. However, it is more difficult to use these same legal precepts to resolve a dispute between the national denomination of a church and a local congregation in a fight over the qualifications for ordained ministry, such as whether noncelibate gays and lesbians may serve as ministers.
I don't think this is a rational fear (forcing religious groups to perform a marriage ceremony against their religion), at least not from what I'm reading (eg: http://www.pewforum.org/2011/03/31/churches-in-court1/). A quick excerpt from this article:
You are wrong here. This decision does not end anything.
The gay community will now insist that the be allowed to be married in a church and they will shout bigotry and file a case to the Supreme Court that they be allowed too.
It will never end.
They can go to a courthouse and get married. Some will do that but others will continue their quest until they get EVERYTHING they think they should get.
You are wrong here. This decision does not end anything.
The gay community will now insist that the be allowed to be married in a church and they will shout bigotry and file a case to the Supreme Court that they be allowed too.
It will never end.
They can go to a courthouse and get married. Some will do that but others will continue their quest until they get EVERYTHING they think they should get.
Welcome to the United States. By the way, ever go through the process of getting married in a Catholic church?
You are wrong here. This decision does not end anything.
The gay community will now insist that the be allowed to be married in a church and they will shout bigotry and file a case to the Supreme Court that they be allowed too.
It will never end.
They can go to a courthouse and get married. Some will do that but others will continue their quest until they get EVERYTHING they think they should get.
I can see some very vocals ones trying, but the question is, what will the courts rule? People sue for all sorts of crazy stuff, doesn't mean they automatically win. We shall see, but my prediction is that forcing religious organizations to go against their religious beliefs and marry a LGTG couple won't happen.
The America of 2015 actually legislating like it's 2015?
*faints*
Congratulations, folks. It's a little late, but progressive thinking carried the day.
The USA slowly catches up. Equal pay for women yet to happen! Unbelievable in this day and age. Not doubt the right wing believe they should be at home, barefoot and pregnant still.
You are wrong here. This decision does not end anything.
The gay community will now insist that the be allowed to be married in a church and they will shout bigotry and file a case to the Supreme Court that they be allowed too.
It will never end.
They can go to a courthouse and get married. Some will do that but others will continue their quest until they get EVERYTHING they think they should get.
I can see some very vocals ones trying, but the question is, what will the courts rule? People sue for all sorts of crazy stuff, doesn't mean they automatically win. We shall see, but my prediction is that forcing religious organizations to go against their religious beliefs and marry a LGTG couple won't happen.
We should probably not care. Let those folks that want to dress up funny and chant and swing incense, play their medieval games and ignore them (just keep them out of government and schools). It's a new business opportunity for civil weddings I'd say.
Instead of spending of your day on this stuff, see if you can find us a little time and gives us a new Apple TV?
How about that?
Apple has shown one new product so far this year. The under powered MacBook.
The sheer stupidity of these kinds of posts never cease to blow my mind.
Yep, this is why we don't have a new Apple TV. Nothing to do with Apple's overall strategy, release cycle, agreements with content providers, technology, etc. Nope, it's cause Tim tweeted stuff. How delusional do you have to be, how much hate do you need to have, to make such absurd and non-sensical statements that you know are insane? Try to make statements based on logic, and not pure emotion.
Do you REALLY believe that if Tim was straight, or a closeted gay person, or did not spend a few seconds tweeting, we'd have a new Apple TV? Come on, be honest.
That's probably completely in line with historical numbers.
You say 'No more'. That's huge. Just for comparison in numbers (and no other) the entire Jewish population of the USA is far, far lower, I'm sure you recognize their influence and importance in the US.
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Its (sic erat scriptum) the liberals that have all the rage? Really? IMHO it's usually a state of mind exhibited by those on the extreme edge of society's thinking (or not thinking) processes.
Cook can't take his money with him when dies and is cast into the lake of fire. He should worry about his eternal home.
Christians need to boycott Apple.
God doesn't give you a vote.
Here's the thing. Surprisingly, all nine justices specifically emphasized the importance of religious freedom and right of expression (genuinely shocked that all nine did). But, what this still does is open the door to more lawsuits. We'll be seeing more of "That mean pastor wouldn't let us get married in his church" or "That mean radio host said he disagrees with gay marriage" or "That mean baker wouldn't make me a wedding cake"
And given how the court cases for people have been going already, this will just make things worse for people who object on religious grounds.
That was sort of settled when "That mean store wouldn't let me sit at the lunch counter" became the description of an illegal discriminatory act. Perform whatever quaint religious ceremony one prefers (though you'd better refrain from stoning people you catch working on Sunday or wearing polyester-cotton blends any time), what RFRA is about. While out in the public sphere? Equal protection under the law.
Furthermore baking isn't a religious act, while I'm a little more ambiguous about a wedding photographer who attends an actual ceremony. Attendance would seem to almost inevitably brush up against "participation".
Its (sic erat scriptum) the liberals that have all the rage? Really? IMHO it's usually a state of mind exhibited by those on the extreme edge of society's thinking (or not thinking) processes.
Who are the ones usually rioting?
All, (not some) developed civilisations in history (the Babylonians, Persian, Greeks, Romans etc etc) collapsed one sexual craziness became the norm.
God save America!
Sexual 'craziness', as you call it, has likely been the norm, at various times less publicly visible than others, since the beginning of sex.
Civilizations rise and collapse.
The two have never been correlated, as far as I am aware.
Inevitable, though too long in coming:
"AMENDMENT XIV
Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.
Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_amendments_11-27.html
The French!
Look forward to the Obama administration to force mosques to marry gay couples.
Oh, that probably won't happen.
I don't think this is a rational fear (forcing religious groups to perform a marriage ceremony against their religion), at least not from what I'm reading (eg: http://www.pewforum.org/2011/03/31/churches-in-court1/). A quick excerpt from this article:
The French!
European soccer fans and American sports fans.
The America of 2015 actually legislating like it's 2015?
*faints*
Congratulations, folks. It's a little late, but progressive thinking carried the day.
You are wrong here. This decision does not end anything.
The gay community will now insist that the be allowed to be married in a church and they will shout bigotry and file a case to the Supreme Court that they be allowed too.
It will never end.
They can go to a courthouse and get married. Some will do that but others will continue their quest until they get EVERYTHING they think they should get.
You are wrong here. This decision does not end anything.
The gay community will now insist that the be allowed to be married in a church and they will shout bigotry and file a case to the Supreme Court that they be allowed too.
It will never end.
They can go to a courthouse and get married. Some will do that but others will continue their quest until they get EVERYTHING they think they should get.
Welcome to the United States. By the way, ever go through the process of getting married in a Catholic church?
2015.
The year Murica got its gay on.
You are wrong here. This decision does not end anything.
The gay community will now insist that the be allowed to be married in a church and they will shout bigotry and file a case to the Supreme Court that they be allowed too.
It will never end.
They can go to a courthouse and get married. Some will do that but others will continue their quest until they get EVERYTHING they think they should get.
I can see some very vocals ones trying, but the question is, what will the courts rule? People sue for all sorts of crazy stuff, doesn't mean they automatically win. We shall see, but my prediction is that forcing religious organizations to go against their religious beliefs and marry a LGTG couple won't happen.
The USA slowly catches up. Equal pay for women yet to happen! Unbelievable in this day and age. Not doubt the right wing believe they should be at home, barefoot and pregnant still.
Apparently, people who identify as gay make up no more than 10% of the population: http://www.gallup.com/poll/6961/What-Percentage-Population-Gay.aspx
That's probably completely in line with historical numbers.
Cook deeply understood what Steve meant by that quote, more than you vindictive and pathetic trolls ever will.
We should probably not care. Let those folks that want to dress up funny and chant and swing incense, play their medieval games and ignore them (just keep them out of government and schools). It's a new business opportunity for civil weddings I'd say.
Tim Cook sure does not miss a beat does he?
Instead of spending of your day on this stuff, see if you can find us a little time and gives us a new Apple TV?
How about that?
Apple has shown one new product so far this year. The under powered MacBook.
The sheer stupidity of these kinds of posts never cease to blow my mind.
Yep, this is why we don't have a new Apple TV. Nothing to do with Apple's overall strategy, release cycle, agreements with content providers, technology, etc. Nope, it's cause Tim tweeted stuff. How delusional do you have to be, how much hate do you need to have, to make such absurd and non-sensical statements that you know are insane? Try to make statements based on logic, and not pure emotion.
Do you REALLY believe that if Tim was straight, or a closeted gay person, or did not spend a few seconds tweeting, we'd have a new Apple TV? Come on, be honest.
You say 'No more'. That's huge. Just for comparison in numbers (and no other) the entire Jewish population of the USA is far, far lower, I'm sure you recognize their influence and importance in the US.