maestro64 wrote: »
This shows that the Chinese government values Apple more than their own companies. They did this to show any other company who is ripping Apple off to think twice. China would not shut down one of their own companies unless they saw more value elsewhere.
At least they priced the iPhones at a reasonable price unlike apple
i am puzzled by your comments.
can you elaborate more on where we can find a cheap, IP-respectfull, democratic, no state-knock-off place on this planet for apple to manufacture their products?
further who are taking advantages over chinese to lure them to destroy their environment and exploit their own people? these products are made by foreign enterprises for foreign companies in china. these foreign entities come from more humane societies and more IP-respectfull places. should not they obligated to behave like they should?
by the way, i felt sorry for your mom's experience in china. if every company in china bribes like your mom's, i guess it would be interesting to see how much of china's GDP are for bribery.
I agree, manufacturing in China is a financial necessity.
If it made financial sense, I would prefer all Apple products to be manufactured here in the States like the Mac Pro. Bring the jobs, business, know-how, all back.
Or at least outsource manufacturing to a country with more respect for intellectual property rights. Without its cheap labor, China is the worst place in the world to manufacture, in my opinion. They'll destroy their own environment and take advantage of their own people to make your product, and then steal your technology and know-how to make knock-offs and run state-sponsored businesses that compete with you.
Apple may be doing well in China now, but I wonder if one day a Xiaomi-like company that targets the premium market will steal Apple's thunder in terms of their domestic market.
gatorguy wrote: »
There have supposedly been other Chinese knockoffs that ran iOS, iOS7 on at least one according to news reports last year assuming it was accurate. This particular phone even had a "Touch ID" button, It did unlock the phone when touched, just not using a fingerprint to do it. :rolleyes:
Or, this is the Chinese government's way of saying if you are going to rip off American intellectual property don't be so stupid about it that you get caught selling it in the US.
Like I said previously, I would prefer for all Apple products to be manufactured in the U.S. That's the ideal. But it wouldn't be cheap, so I recognize the trade-off there. In terms of respecting IP, I think Japan does. Generally speaking, they have a culture that prides itself on abiding by rules, and anecdotally, when I lived there, almost no one I met pirated anything. I never mentioned anything about being democratic, so I don't know how to respond to that.
I think Apple has gone above and beyond to be good "citizens" in China.
You are right that foreign companies may contribute to the exploitation, but I think the unscrupulous attitudes are already there within Chinese society. You can see this in how Chinese companies exploit their own citizens by selling them deadly contaminated baby formula, cooking oil dredged up from their sewers, and cutting corners with school buildings which collapsed and killed their children during earthquakes.
anantksundaram wrote: »
Lol. I wonder what they had for an operating system!
Did these actually work with iOS!?
am8449 wrote: »
Like I said previously, I would prefer for all Apple products to be manufactured in the U.S. That's the ideal. But it wouldn't be cheap, so I recognize the trade-off there. In terms of respecting IP, I think Japan does. Generally speaking, they have a culture that prides itself on abiding by rules, and anecdotally, when I lived there, almost no one I met pirated anything.
I wonder how close these copies actually are.
When I was in China on a business trip a few years ago, I saw stores full of counterfeit Apple products, but the cloning was skin-deep. The devices were actually Android devices in a case that looks like an iPhone/iPad case, and with a skin that looks very similar to iOS at first glance. Nobody purchasing them were ever under the impression that these were Apple products - they thought Apple's look was fashionable, so they were willing to buy generic cheap junk packaged in an Apple-like case.
If this article is for the same kind of product, then I fail to see how it's news. If they actually made a deeper copy, where it is running iOS and can sync with iTunes and access the App Store, then that's a whole 'nother story.
That's China in a nutshell (and a good summary of how their entire economy is built on the shaky legs of fraud and misrepresentation).
I did meet many Chinese and Koreans in Japan. Maybe foreigners residing in Japan are the source of this pirated media.
This does not always mean much in china since China usually forces product made in China by foreign company to be shipped outside of china. The fact that Apple is now selling lots of product in China the game has changed. The Government does not want to hurt Apple's business in its own country, their is more value now to promote Apple over a local knock off which is only sold in China, Now it may be different if those knock off were sold around the world. China is very complicated in this regards.
Yes this could be true as well, that is what Happen with Matel and the China supplier who used lead base paint and got caught in the US. China shut down the supplier and the owner supposedly killed himself because he embassed the China Government. Yeah right. The fact that the government is making this public tells you they are sending a message about something or many things.