Dr. Dre's 'Compton' album hits 25M streams on Apple Music in first week

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  • Reply 61 of 65
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    Will Smith made and lost million before he starred in "The Fresh Prince of Belair" in september 1990? Really? I've been following him since 1988 and never heard that one.... Considering he only made one million only by late 1988 at the earliest and had money still rolling into 1989 from that first album by the time he was approached to get his own show in late 1989 and the pilot for Fresh Prince was shot in may 1990,  that's seems like an unlikely motivation. He had his biggest hits after 1990, both with his original group and solo.



    His big break in films came in 1993 in 6 degree of separation, but what made him a star was independence day in 1996. Both those films were shot while in was still doing Fresh Prince 1990-1996.


     

    Yes, Google it -- by 1990 or so he was almost broke. I remember hearing about it back in the 90's. He fell into the trap of a lot of young successful men; too much money, too young and too fast. Fresh Prince of Bel Air and his acting saved him financially (and their big Summertime hit, etc.) and he kept building from there.

  • Reply 62 of 65
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    Also don't forget those 500.000 downloads.

    500.000 x $12? x 0,7? = $8 571 428

    Combined, this potentially shows that much more people are listening to his music than prior to streaming. Which is a nice thing. But it also shows that buying is a much more powerful short term business model. It also shows that streaming is a business model that works for big time artists.



    I'd say it's a great launch. I could live my whole life from this amount of money ;-) Anyone who says the numbers are disappointing has lost contact with life.



    To play devil's advocate, that's a good amount of money from streaming, but not much after you pay your team of publicists, agents, lawyers, co-writers, producers, engineers, studio time for a big project like this. The thing is, acts like Dre who were built up into icons by labels and have good branding/name recognition can sustain and do reasonably well into the streaming era. The sheer number of fans they have from being massively exposed before the shift carries over.

     

    It's a much different case when an indie band starting out in the last few years invests in recording (still quite expensive to do well commercially), invests in gear and a van for a tour in support of that record, does a good job hiring a manager and publicist to fill the venues and goes out on the road. If everyone in a 300 person club streamed your album on their way home instead of buying it, you wouldn't have even earned enough $$ for gas to the next gig. That's why merch is the only way a new act survives as it builds momentum these days. Well, that, college gigs, and increasingly competitive TV/movie placements.



    I don't think these numbers are very good, honestly, when looking to the future of music. That said, the internet is a crazy unpredictable demon. The best music in the world should rise to the top regardless of who is making it...I hope that's the case.

  • Reply 63 of 65
    palegolaspalegolas Posts: 1,289member
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    To play devil's advocate, that's a good amount of money from streaming, but not much after you pay your team of publicists, agents, lawyers, co-writers, producers, engineers, studio time for a big project like this. The thing is, acts like Dre who were built up into icons by labels and have good branding/name recognition can sustain and do reasonably well into the streaming era. The sheer number of fans they have from being massively exposed before the shift carries over.

     

    It's a much different case when an indie band starting out in the last few years invests in recording (still quite expensive to do well commercially), invests in gear and a van for a tour in support of that record, does a good job hiring a manager and publicist to fill the venues and goes out on the road. If everyone in a 300 person club streamed your album on their way home instead of buying it, you wouldn't have even earned enough $$ for gas to the next gig. That's why merch is the only way a new act survives as it builds momentum these days. Well, that, college gigs, and increasingly competitive TV/movie placements.



    I don't think these numbers are very good, honestly, when looking to the future of music. That said, the internet is a crazy unpredictable demon. The best music in the world should rise to the top regardless of who is making it...I hope that's the case.




    Yeah great points. Indeed, it's a crazy, and strange time for music. I always suggest patreonage as the ultimate model. In my own experience, a hundred people donating are more powerful than a million streams on the internet. It's a mind twister that is hard to accept at first.. But then it slowly dawns upon you. Here's a Ted Talk/ performance I gave on the topic earlier this year.

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  • Reply 64 of 65
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 31,499member

    Oh, and by the way:

     

    Dr. Dre's Ex Michel'le: "I Was Just a Quiet Girlfriend Who Got Beat up"

     

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dr-dres-michelle-i-was-816079?utm_source=twitter

     

    Maybe Tim should address this at some point, lest Apple be accused of sweeping "Dre's" past under the rug?

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