iPad OS?
I was bored and just giving some thought on the OS apple would use [if they were ever gonna release a PDA in Tokyo]...
There are some that donT think Apple will be using a hybrid version of palmOS5 because it has just been recently seeded to developers...But I think if thats what Apple wants to use, Apple gets. Im sure they could have come across a usable OS long before [with some money passing hands with Palm of course!] Just look how Apple is able use the new NVidia graphics cards before Windoze.
What do you think?
There are some that donT think Apple will be using a hybrid version of palmOS5 because it has just been recently seeded to developers...But I think if thats what Apple wants to use, Apple gets. Im sure they could have come across a usable OS long before [with some money passing hands with Palm of course!] Just look how Apple is able use the new NVidia graphics cards before Windoze.
What do you think?
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<strong>I was bored and just giving some thought on the OS apple would use [if they were ever gonna release a PDA in Tokyo]...
There are some that donT think Apple will be using a hybrid version of palmOS5 because it has just been recently seeded to developers...But I think if thats what Apple wants to use, Apple gets. Im sure they could have come across a usable OS long before [with some money passing hands with Palm of course!] Just look how Apple is able use the new NVidia graphics cards before Windoze.
What do you think?</strong><hr></blockquote>
In a way, it might explain why Palm is being weird about PalmOS5 - see <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23955.html" target="_blank">http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23955.html</a> for why.
Also, Apple loves ARM, and Palm seem to be going off hardware.
What better way to sell a new (expensive?) OS to licencees than to demo it in a stunning Apple PDA?
<strong>If, and it's a big if, this device ever gets released, wouldn't they use the same cut-down version of OS X they have in the iPod?</strong><hr></blockquote>
iPod using a 'cut-down' version of OS X?!?! Where do people come up with this stuff??
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iPod using a 'cut-down' version of OS X?!?! Where do people come up with this stuff?? </strong><hr></blockquote>
I have no idea. I probably heard it here - guess the BS detector was switched off on that one
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I have no idea. I probably heard it here - guess the BS detector was switched off on that one </strong><hr></blockquote>
Heh... you gotta be real careful what/who you listen to around here. Oh and just so you know, the OS used with the iPod is Pixo <a href="http://www.pixo.com/" target="_blank">http://www.pixo.com/</a> (pixo was formed by ex-apple folk btw).
Dave
Curiouser and curiouser.
Oops - sorry, didn't spot your reply 'till later
I think I got mixed up with all of those rumours about the iPod being a PDA - I temporarily forgot that about the time of these updates, suddenly every fanboy dream becomes a "press release"
[ 02-07-2002: Message edited by: Guitarbloke ]</p>
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<strong>Hmm.... supposedly it's Pixo, although they don't refer to it on their site. Supposedly they were also involved in the Newton.
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It is Pixo, it says so on the iPod About Screen.
<strong> They were paid a flat sum for the iPod OS, and they'll be smart enough to demand a per-profit for an iPad OS.</strong><hr></blockquote>
No, they charged a flat sum. Should Apple have said "Hey, ya'll aren't charging enough so instead of a flat rate we will pay $$$ per device sold."
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With the issue of the iPad-OS, for sure the OS will be different than palmOS?but with OS5 still as the base. With what Ive heard so-far in regards to OS5 [from the PalmSource convention] it is Palms next revolutionary step [their current BS is 8-years old]. To draw a comparison: palmOS4 into OS5 is like Apple's redesigned OS9 to OSX. In current form of OS5 their old destop-persay and apps run using an emulator, very cool. [can we say OSX-classic mode comparison?] Anyways you can figure out a lot more into the future of OS5 from the jap-URL : <a href="http://ascii24.com/news/i/topi/article/2002/02/06/633400-001.html?" target="_blank">http://ascii24.com/news/i/topi/article/2002/02/06/633400-001.html?</a>
-make sure you use Babelfish if you donT read Japanese. Im sure Apple could develop and mold OS5 into an experience more "newtonesque" to make all us mac-heads happy, and whats not to say they already have....Tokyo macWorld is just little over a month away
>ThinkingDifferent: and don't worry, Apple will definately be pay Palm licensing on a per/unit deal.
Palm acquired Be and it's BeOS/BeIA a while ago, so I wouldn't be suprised if PalmOS 5 is heavily based on BeIA.
For those not familair with BeIA: It's a lightning fast OS especially developed for Internet Appliances such as handheld. It had awesome multimedia and multitasking capabilities and a low memory footprint.
To see just what BeOS was capable of, download this 20 minutes video - and be impressed with what they were capable of doing on a lowly dual PII/266.
<a href="http://bezip.de/app/1130/beos_demovideo_20minutes.mpg" target="_blank">http://bezip.de/app/1130/beos_demovideo_20minutes.mpg</a>
When Apple changed processor, not much of the OS changed, just some of the rules - especially if you were writing low-level code. (See the parallel?)
PalmOS are saying that they have a new version 6 of their OS which will use the ARM chip properly, and will be all-singing, all-dancing.
Apple said they would have a new Mac OS 8, code-named Copland, which would be all-singing, all-dancing. (See the parallel?)
Well we all know what happened with Copland and how long it took before an OS that really took advanage of the PPC appeared. Apple needed to buy in an OS - it could have been Be, but it turned out to be NeXT.
So Palm have bought Be, and that will be their OS 6. They say it will appear sometime in the next two years. (How long did it take to get NeXT into Mac OS X?)
So, PalmOS 5 is nothing new compared with PalmOS 4. It ain't a revolution. PalmOS 5 will be based on PalmOS 4, PalmOS 6 will be based on BeOS.
Anyone expecting Apple to come out with a PDA based on a PalmOS, in turn based on BeOS will have a very long wait ahead of them.
Now isn't it funny that the guy in charge of PalmOS today was the guy in charge of Copland all those years ago? I wonder if history will repeat itself...
[Edit - tidying up..]
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Damn, (?)could(?) you stuff OS X into a PDA and run Palm OS (and thereby all of the Palm OS based SW) in emulation? Is there a microprocessor that is fast enough and efficient enough to do that?
OS X?
iTunes on the PDA?
It would kill the iPod....
Ha! Put a monitor connector on the side (or something).... A monitor run from your PDA. iPaq does something like this already; you can hook your iPaq to a video projector and run a powerpoint slide presentation from it. I saw that done about three months ago.
Perplexed but hopeful,
Aries 1B
Even Palm acknowledges the similarities [Copeland and the development of OS5/6]...check it out: <a href="http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2966" target="_blank">http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2966</a>
Great interview.