By using a small number of well designed ads that are not annoying enough for people to install ad blockers.
The only reason I've installed ad blockers is because the ads get in the way of my content or divert my attention! If they don't then most people won't bother... Its the flashy annoying crap that caused the ad blocking explosion.
I would imagine that most people agree with this.
Wasn't killing Adobe Flash and moving to HTML 5 supposed to put an end to all of these annoyances?
But there is no News app on my beta iOS 9. App is probably region based. As lot of other new features it works only in selected countries, probably top 10 or less. iOS 9 should be 8.5 maintenance release.
[…] the AI app for iOS. No ads, but then I can't read (too tiny) the comments, nor can I post on the iOS app. One step forward and two steps back!
Yep, those are two of my three gripes about the app too. Those comments are quite tiny, somewhat still still legible on an iPad 3 for me but strenuous on an iPad mini, they give you control of the font size for the article but not the itty bitty comments, and why the hell does anybody think using grey for tiny text is a good idea. And of course I do have to write this here in Safari.
The third reason I still have to open Safari for AI though is probably something they can't fix or may not want to do, arguably a feature few would use. I bookmark quite a few articles in over thirty different folders assigned by topic.
I didn't get Apple News. Now thanks to this article, I get it.
I personally get it big time. The Atlantic and Guardian news in one app? Brilliant. Apple needs to keep erecting these Google-free gardens and slowly give them and their Wall Street lovers a slow bleed.
Because people want EVERYTHING(except their work) for free.
YouTube is probably the biggest offender in stealing and giving things away.
Hollywood, TV, Music industry should sue the living F*** out of them!!!!
Almost every teen I know uses YouTube as their music streaming service and %98 of content is uploaded from unofficial sources.
It doesn't end there but you get the idea.
Yeah I agree YouTube is a loophole that needs to be closed. Personally I love AppleMusic and will continue to use it past the free period - despite being afflicted by the 8.4.1 bug that means I can only use it on the desktop until 9.0 comes out and hopefully fixes it . Up until the bug hit AppleMusic was awesome on the mobile, but if it is not fixed then its back to Spotify :-( .
It is not a widespread problem by any means, but it has certainly affected me.
Why can't AI just get onto the Apple News train? The advertising split looks very reasonable and if it cuts out all of the annoying crap we have now with all of the trackers and cruft on the mobile site then it should keep most readers happy enough.
Yeah I agree YouTube is a loophole that needs to be closed.
What about YouTube is a "loophole"? They do pay artists/owners for play, a couple $B noted as of last year, block the use of media that copyright holders have claimed (ContentID), and are quick to remove content if someone contacts Youtube with a legitimate (or sometimes not) takedown request. Sure looks like they're trying to do the proper thing.
What about YouTube is a "loophole"? They do pay artists/owners for play, a couple $B noted as of last year, block the use of media that copyright holders have claimed (ContentID), and are quick to remove content if someone contacts Youtube with a legitimate (or sometimes not) takedown request. Sure looks like they're trying to do the proper thing.
That was a fast reply GG. Do you get an alert for every time someone uses a Google related term in their comment? :-)
See herefor one artists story of Youtube poverty There is another older Guardianlink as well to show that this is not a new phenomena.
here <span style="line-height:1.4em;">for one artists story of Youtube poverty There is another older Guardian</span>
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<a href="http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/nov/13/youtube-songwriters-payment-copyrights" style="line-height:1.4em;" target="_blank">link</a>
<span style="line-height:1.4em;">as well to show that this is not a new </span>
phenomena<span style="line-height:1.4em;">.</span>
Well that certainly is one proving they didn't steal the content.
Well that certainly is one proving they didn't steal the content.
Oh, sure I wasn't trying to imply Google was stealing the content or anything (why would they do that? It's not like they need the money).
Perhaps my post wasn't clear. I was highlighting that artists are getting very little (ripped off) back in renumeration. I quoted Cali's post as it talked about people using YouTube for free and used that to make the link to artists having to live on the bones of their arses.
Google does nicely out of the advertising revenue/tracking and the labels seem happy enough but that is where it ends.
Oh, sure I wasn't trying to imply Google was stealing the content or anything (why would they do that? It's not like they need the money).
Perhaps my post wasn't clear. I was highlighting that artists are getting very little (ripped off) back in renumeration. I quoted Cali's post as it talked about people using YouTube for free and used that to make the link to artists having to live on the bones of their arses.
Google does nicely out of the advertising revenue/tracking and the labels seem happy enough but that is where it ends.
Thanks for the link. I got through about 3 or 4 of the people on the list before my patience ended. These all seemed to be video bloggers. Obviously some people like what they do, but I am talking about music where you spend weeks writing, practising and crafting a track prior to release.
I don't want to sound like a snob but I believe we are talking about different things.
Thanks for the link. I got through about 3 or 4 of the people on the list before my patience ended. These all seemed to be video bloggers. Obviously some people like what they do, but I am talking about music where you spend weeks writing, practising and crafting a track prior to release.
I don't want to sound like a snob but I believe we are talking about different things.
If YouTube wasn't free to use it could be more. AFAIK they're still planning a paid service rather than just ad-supported sometime pretty soon so hopefully some of the content owners can make a bit more than they do now. IMHO they deserve more.Very few artists are making much from the piddly amounts the streaming services are paying out, a half-penny per stream or even less as a rule. Even Apple is reportedly paying only 1/5 of a penny at the moment.
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I think you will find those News sites, accessible via a browser, disappearing or only accessible via paywall for ad free content.
By using a small number of well designed ads that are not annoying enough for people to install ad blockers.
The only reason I've installed ad blockers is because the ads get in the way of my content or divert my attention! If they don't then most people won't bother... Its the flashy annoying crap that caused the ad blocking explosion.
I would imagine that most people agree with this.
Wasn't killing Adobe Flash and moving to HTML 5 supposed to put an end to all of these annoyances?
No. It was merely mostly what Flash was being used for.
Anyway, try uninstalling all the Google Apps from your precious iPhone (Gmail, Google Search, Maps, etc...) and see how useful your phone is...
(P.S. I have two iPhones and and a Android phone)
[…] the AI app for iOS. No ads, but then I can't read (too tiny) the comments, nor can I post on the iOS app. One step forward and two steps back!
Yep, those are two of my three gripes about the app too. Those comments are quite tiny, somewhat still still legible on an iPad 3 for me but strenuous on an iPad mini, they give you control of the font size for the article but not the itty bitty comments, and why the hell does anybody think using grey for tiny text is a good idea. And of course I do have to write this here in Safari.
The third reason I still have to open Safari for AI though is probably something they can't fix or may not want to do, arguably a feature few would use. I bookmark quite a few articles in over thirty different folders assigned by topic.
I personally get it big time. The Atlantic and Guardian news in one app? Brilliant. Apple needs to keep erecting these Google-free gardens and slowly give them and their Wall Street lovers a slow bleed.
Because people want EVERYTHING(except their work) for free.
YouTube is probably the biggest offender in stealing and giving things away.
Hollywood, TV, Music industry should sue the living F*** out of them!!!!
Almost every teen I know uses YouTube as their music streaming service and %98 of content is uploaded from unofficial sources.
It doesn't end there but you get the idea.
Yeah I agree YouTube is a loophole that needs to be closed. Personally I love AppleMusic and will continue to use it past the free period - despite being afflicted by the 8.4.1 bug that means I can only use it on the desktop until 9.0 comes out and hopefully fixes it . Up until the bug hit AppleMusic was awesome on the mobile, but if it is not fixed then its back to Spotify :-( .
It is not a widespread problem by any means, but it has certainly affected me.
Why can't AI just get onto the Apple News train? The advertising split looks very reasonable and if it cuts out all of the annoying crap we have now with all of the trackers and cruft on the mobile site then it should keep most readers happy enough.
What about YouTube is a "loophole"? They do pay artists/owners for play, a couple $B noted as of last year, block the use of media that copyright holders have claimed (ContentID), and are quick to remove content if someone contacts Youtube with a legitimate (or sometimes not) takedown request. Sure looks like they're trying to do the proper thing.
That was a fast reply GG. Do you get an alert for every time someone uses a Google related term in their comment? :-)
See here for one artists story of Youtube poverty There is another older Guardian link as well to show that this is not a new phenomena.
Well that certainly is one proving they didn't steal the content.
Well that certainly is one proving they didn't steal the content.
Oh, sure I wasn't trying to imply Google was stealing the content or anything (why would they do that? It's not like they need the money).
Perhaps my post wasn't clear. I was highlighting that artists are getting very little (ripped off) back in renumeration. I quoted Cali's post as it talked about people using YouTube for free and used that to make the link to artists having to live on the bones of their arses.
Google does nicely out of the advertising revenue/tracking and the labels seem happy enough but that is where it ends.
There's some folks making decent livings from YouTube tho.
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-influential/10-ordinary-people-who-earned-their-millions-from-youtube/
Even those little "indies" can make money at YouTube if they'll take the time to understand the process.
http://technical.ly/dc/2014/10/29/cd-baby-ceo-tracy-maddux-future-of-music-policy-summit/
Ah gotcha.
There's some folks making decent livings from YouTube tho.
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-influential/10-ordinary-people-who-earned-their-millions-from-youtube/
Thanks for the link. I got through about 3 or 4 of the people on the list before my patience ended. These all seemed to be video bloggers. Obviously some people like what they do, but I am talking about music where you spend weeks writing, practising and crafting a track prior to release.
I don't want to sound like a snob but I believe we are talking about different things.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/seven-ways-musicians-make-money-off-youtube-20130919
If YouTube wasn't free to use it could be more. AFAIK they're still planning a paid service rather than just ad-supported sometime pretty soon so hopefully some of the content owners can make a bit more than they do now. IMHO they deserve more.Very few artists are making much from the piddly amounts the streaming services are paying out, a half-penny per stream or even less as a rule. Even Apple is reportedly paying only 1/5 of a penny at the moment.