iPad mini 4 uses overclocked A8 processor faster than 2014 iPhones

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  • Reply 21 of 36
    Roger Fingas, is there is a reason you're choosing overclocked over higher clocked?

    "Overclocking is the process of forcing a computer or hardware component to operate faster than the manufacturer-specified clock frequency."


    Higher clocked.

    That's the second time I've seen them do that. Perhaps the author will elucidate to use his reasoning for that usage?
  • Reply 22 of 36
    One wonders whether Apple is transitioning the iPad to an every other year update cycle, like the iPhone.  One year they'll add new features, then the next new internals.  Certainly the longer time between consumer upgrades would allow for such a change to the cycles.  They could also stagger the updates with the Pro getting new capabilities first, followed by the Air and Mini.  

    So there could be new capabilities one year in the Pro, with the Air and/or Mini just getting faster internals (like this year), and then the next year the Pro gets faster internals but no new capabilities, while the new capabilities introduced in the Pro the previous year are pushed down to the consumer models.   <span style="line-height:1.4em;">Rinse and repeat...</span>

    Right fitting in with Tim's statement today that they never wait for a tick-update, but release the whenever it's ready.... The moment I read that I immediately thought about iPad and how they don't.
  • Reply 23 of 36
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by konqerror View Post

     

     

    Unclear that there is one. It's down by 5%. These tech sites are completely unscientific about their numbers, otherwise they'd run it multiple times and show error bars.




    If you look at the single core results, the Mini 4 and Air 2 run almost exactly 8% faster than the iPhone 6 (which they should according to the differences in clock rate, 1.4 vs 1.5 GHz). And the multicore results are 45% higher (50% would be perfect scaling) on the Air 2 over the Mini 4 and the Mini 4 is again almost 8% faster than the iPhone 6 (as the clock rate difference would suggest). 

     

    If the benchmark can show a predicted 8% increase with that accuracy, I would say the memory differences are statistically significant as well. 

  • Reply 24 of 36

    To AppleInsider & Roger Fingas,

     

    If you are going to just lift and repost original content from a legitimate news site, at least do it accurately! I don't see the use of the term overclock in the original Ars Technical article that you hijacked this material from (btw, it might be in the reader comments section but that's not the point!).  SO CAN YOU PLEASE FIX YOUR ARTICLE'S TITLE?  And it would even be nicer if you would compliment Andrew Cunningham on the work that he and his team did that you guys have taken to drive clicks and revenue to your site.

     

    Thx SolipsismY for calling AI out on this.  It's one thing that all the Apple fan-boy sites routinely just copy original news and research from other sites and create their own articles but at least they should do it accurately.....

  • Reply 25 of 36
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WonkoTheSane View Post





    Right fitting in with Tim's statement today that they never wait for a tick-update, but release the whenever it's ready.... The moment I read that I immediately thought about iPad and how they don't.

     

    Well, Apple also doesn't release things just for heck of it. So, if there is a functional reason to release it, they will. But, otherwise they could hold off till it actually provides the user with something substantial, rather than a checkbox item which introduces some other deficiency (like Samsung and LG often do).

  • Reply 26 of 36
    shenshen Posts: 434member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamlondon View Post

     

    I'd wager the next mini upgrade will be in 2 years. Next year the Air will get upgraded but not the mini.




    Between this and the graphs that don't even include my original 2012 mini, I think it might just be time to finally upgrade...

     

    Do I even want to know how far this thing outpaces my poor mini? Maybe not.

  • Reply 27 of 36
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shen View Post

     

    Between this and the graphs that don't even include my original 2012 mini, I think it might just be time to finally upgrade...

     

    Do I even want to know how far this thing outpaces my poor mini? Maybe not.


    Ars Technica was asked to compare the latest with the original, here are two updated charts (I'm assuming there's no issue with my including them here??):

     

    Sorry, you probably didn't want to see those stats. :(

     

    Last year I sold my gen 1, it was hard to depart with it because I just loved it so much, even more than I do my current gen2 (though, the speed and screen improvements are admittedly quite nice).

  • Reply 28 of 36
    shenshen Posts: 434member
    Ars Technica was asked to compare the latest with the original, here are two updated charts (I'm assuming there's no issue with my including them here??):

    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="62853" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/62853/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 367px">

    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="62854" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/62854/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 367px">

    Sorry, you probably didn't want to see those stats. :(

    Last year I sold my gen 1, it was hard to depart with it because I just loved it so much, even more than I do my current gen2 (though, the speed and screen improvements are admittedly quite nice).

    Those are just mean. You know I am viewing those on the iPad in question, yeah?

    I can hear it cry quietly...
  • Reply 29 of 36
    I like the Mini and hope it's not eliminated from Apple's lineup in the years to come.
  • Reply 30 of 36
    idreyidrey Posts: 640member
    I noticed that other websites like Ars Technica simply mentioned the clock speed increase without characterizing it as overclocking. This isn't the first time AI used the term "overclocking" to describe a higher factory frequency from Apple.

    They (AI) need to be a little more selective
    With their wording. "Overclocking" sounds
    more like "pushing beyon it limits" and no body seems
    To know what the limits are. The title does not sound
    Very ? friendly.
  • Reply 31 of 36
    Not enough A9s to go around. Or they're waiting for the Air to upgrade to the A9 before moving the mini over. I want to upgrade my mini but I think I may still hold off until the next update.
    Me too. I wanted to upgrade from the A7 mini 2 to an A9 mini 4, but I also have an Air 2 and I don't want a mini that's still second class - especially without 3D Touch. Have to wait another year I guess.????
  • Reply 32 of 36
    Not enough A9s to go around. Or they're waiting for the Air to upgrade to the A9 before moving the mini over. I want to upgrade my mini but I think I may still hold off until the next update.
    Me too. I'll wait for a 3-D Touch A9 mini in a year I hope. I think Air 3 MUST have an A9X 3-D Touch minimum. It'll possibly be named iPad Air 3-D????????????
    iPad Pro is so different and powerful that 3-D Touch isn't necessary for it to be a hit. I plan to buy one in November with all my Perk Points all my devices earn for me daily.????????
    You had me at Semetrical Aspect Self Adjusting Surround Sound. It's gonna sound AWESOME????????????????????????????????
  • Reply 33 of 36
    multimedia wrote: »
    iPad Pro is so different and powerful that 3-D Touch isn't necessary for it to be a hit.

    3D Touch on touch displays might be like Retina displays, where the larger the device gets the more costly and complex the component becomes. We already know 3D Touch on the iPhone 6S-series caused the device to be thicker and heavier due to the much thicker display assembly which may be thicker than the original iPhones which had an air gap. I hope iFixit measures and compares those component thicknesses). Also, there is the component for the haptic feedback, which I'm guessing will need to scale to a larger device due to both it's size and it's mass so the effect works. On an iPad, especially an iPad that might mean having multiple Taptic engines (I'd say 2 to 4) that work in conjunction with each other. This might be why the iPad Air 3 wasn't announced last week.
  • Reply 34 of 36
    solipsismy wrote: »
    This might be why the iPad Air 3 was announced last week.
    There was no iPad Air 3 announced last week.????
  • Reply 35 of 36
    multimedia wrote: »
    There was no iPad Air 3 announced last week.????

    Typo.
  • Reply 36 of 36
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Multimedia View Post



    Me too. I'll wait for a 3-D Touch A9 mini in a year I hope. I think Air 3 MUST have an A9X 3-D Touch minimum. It'll possibly be named iPad Air 3-D????????????

    iPad Pro is so different and powerful that 3-D Touch isn't necessary for it to be a hit. I plan to buy one in November with all my Perk Points all my devices earn for me daily.????????

    You had me at Semetrical Aspect Self Adjusting Surround Sound. It's gonna sound AWESOME????????????????????????????????

    Sadly, I think the mini isn't on a yearly upgrade cycle. Those other features (e.g. 3D Touch) and possibly some from the Pro they'll migrate to the Air first maybe starting next year and the mini will be ignored until 2017 at the earliest.

     

    Things aren't so terrible, the chips have gotten so fast, even my gen 2 mini is still quite fast enough. As much as we may want the additional features of the other devices, at least while we wait for them to reach the mini, the current (and previous) versions are really some excellent products that aren't nearly so quick to become "long in the tooth" to which these devices were more easily prone in previous generations.

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