Apple has target ship date of 2019 for electric car project, but it won't be self driving - report

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  • Reply 41 of 166



    I believe these rumors when Samsung announces equivalent project.

  • Reply 42 of 166
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
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    Originally Posted by pistis View Post



    Oh please please don't source any parts for Shitsung



    Haven’t you heard? Shtisung is announcing its car this afternoon thereby stealing the spotlight from Apple. Android users are already reminding people that Google has had a car for years.

  • Reply 43 of 166

    The Apple car won'T be "only" self driving (off course), but it will have a self-driving mode; that is a certainty.

     

    Since self-driving will be only allowed in certain places for quite some time, that makes the most sense of course.

  • Reply 44 of 166
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    Originally Posted by Conrail View Post

     

    If it has a steering system, it's greasy.

     

    Cars (even the relatively simple electric models) need an enormous supply chain.  They also need mechanics.  Not technicians, not geniuses.  Mechanics.  Just because it doesn't have an internal combustion engine doesn't mean it doesn't have moving parts.

     

    I know they're a smart company and have thought about all this.  Kinda surprised they're going all the way like this though.


     

    Hmm... How big do you think Apple's CURRENT supply chain is? It's larger than the car makers already. That they're using smaller parts doesn't change anything.  Most current car markers are moving away from manufacturing most things in house and going towards contract manufacturing for most things (in some case even final assembly). That seems to play pretty well in Apple's mode of operation.

     

    Eventually, car makers will look a lot more like Apple (little manufacturing), than the opposite.

  • Reply 45 of 166
    I know a few people who work at Tesla and the common theme is: the pay sucks (it's the allure that brings most in).

    Sprinkle a few unrestricted Apple shares in the bucolic fields outside Deer Creek Drive in Palo Alto, and you'll probably hook about 50 employees in an afternoon.
  • Reply 46 of 166
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    Haven’t you heard? Shtisung is announcing its car this afternoon thereby stealing the spotlight from Apple. Android users are already reminding people that Google has had a car for years.




    They already have one, sort of (a rebranded Renault). Not too popular, based on the wiki page.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Samsung_Motors

     

    But I get your point. I can see "Galaxy Motors" popping up sometime soon...

  • Reply 47 of 166

    It's time to retire the Apple garage pic.

  • Reply 48 of 166
    Truckers (CDL holders), taxi drivers, and the like better start preparing for a new career.
  • Reply 49 of 166
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    Why is that green car floating in the air? Is Apple making a hovercraft?<img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />


    That green thing is a car?!

  • Reply 50 of 166
    dtrace wrote: »
    LOL, you didn't answer my question.

    trolls dont need answers.
  • Reply 51 of 166
    smurfman wrote: »
    Truckers (CDL holders), taxi drivers, and the like better start preparing for a new career.

    Autonomous automobiles would be no different than autopilot on a plane for the foreseeable future. These vehicles will still need a human "pilot" which means no current commercial driver has anything to worry about.
  • Reply 52 of 166
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    Originally Posted by lostkiwi View Post



    I hope they utilise some of the patents that Tesla open sourced a little while ago. No need to reinvent the wheel.



    I wonder how much an Apple Car would cost?

    My guess would be the $55,000 - $75,000 range. The sweet spot for sufficiently large quantity, reasonably comfortable margins, and yet be considered 'luxury'.

     

    There will be a rose gold-plated version of the $75,000 configuration, for $225,000.

  • Reply 53 of 166
    dtrace wrote: »
     Some catastrophic, dare I say rotten, 1.0 products that were spectacular failures include the Lisa, Newton, Macintosh Portable

    lol, when you have to go back decades to find examples of rotten Apple 1.0 products, then youve lost. few of their competitors today were even around back then.
  • Reply 54 of 166
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    Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

    All 3rd world country service.  

    Do't knock "3rd world country" car service.

     

    It's often as good as, if not better than what you get in the US.

  • Reply 55 of 166
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    Autonomous automobiles would be no different than autopilot on a plane for the foreseeable future. These vehicles will still need a human "pilot" which means no current commercial driver has anything to worry about.



    Maybe so but airplanes have greater risks that broaden the complexity of a completely autonomous flight – namely passengers on the plane as well as people and real-estate on the ground, cost, and variables taking off and landing. I believe an airplane could easily go autonomous but these heighten risks are why humans need to be on-board and in-control.

     

    If transportation safety actually increases dramatically with autonomous vehicles, it would be a natural transition. It may take 10-15 years after releasing the first autonomous vehicles/trucks, but it'll happen.

  • Reply 56 of 166
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    Originally Posted by Sigma4Life View Post



    The Model S is fine as is. What do you think sucks about their infotainment system?



    They also have a major update coming in a few weeks with several nice enhancements. The new UI looks a lot like modern iOS / Android.

    The shiny chrome lines look cheap. The infotainment system looks like a baad tech movie from the 1980s (with a ridiculous-looking blob of a flat screen); and their new X looks about as attractive as a Ford.

     

    They've peaked.

  • Reply 57 of 166
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    The shiny chrome lines look cheap. The infotainment system looks like a baad tech movie from the 1980s (with a ridiculous-looking blob of a flat screen); and their new X looks about as attractive as a Ford.

     

    They've peaked.


     

    LOL. You're opinion is definitely YOURS. The majority of the world disagrees with you.

  • Reply 58 of 166
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    LOL. You're opinion is definitely YOURS. The majority of the world disagrees with you.


    Yeah, like you've polled the "majority of the world."

     

    Moreover, you asked.

  • Reply 59 of 166
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    Originally Posted by NolaMacGuy View Post





    trolls dont need answers.

     

    He and I have alread replied because I wasn't trolling.  My point is that Apple has a bad track record with 1.0 products in new categories and that I'd rather buy a car from a car company for the first few iterations.

     

    Gotta love the hate this forum greets people with though.

  • Reply 60 of 166
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    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

     

    Yeah, like you've polled the "majority of the world."

     

    Moreover, you asked.




    True I did ask. I said that because of the long wait list they have and the near unanimous praise the car continues to receive.

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