Will Apple provide some sort of "miniADC" port (like the miniVGA port on the iBooks) on the next revision of the Powerbook G4? Being able to plug an Apple Cinema Display into a Powerbook G4 would make it the ultimate desktop replacement.
Now you're talking. That is probably a technical no-no <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> but if it could be done, they just sold an ADC PowerBook here
however as a desktop replacement it makes sense, plug it in to the wall!... i mean if you can whip out the cin display you're probably at a desk with a power source right? i mean what asshole is gunna try and watch a dvd on his cin display in an airplane? and even there there are plugs
well, my titanium is hooked into an external sony lcd. why? cause i can't use apple's monitors. that's $1000 that apple could have had if they wanted it bad enough.
Man, I would totally love that, as long as they ALSO kept VGA support and S-Video. I am wondering, though, if a problem could arise with voltage.. I BELIEVE the ACD displays use something that is ~24 volts, but am not sure how much the powerbook battery is. Anyone know? Anyways, if they made it ACD enabled, but it only ran because of the power limitation, when you had it plugged in, I think it would sell great...
<strong>power a cin display off of a laptop batt? badnews
however as a desktop replacement it makes sense, plug it in to the wall!... i mean if you can whip out the cin display you're probably at a desk with a power source right? i mean what asshole is gunna try and watch a dvd on his cin display in an airplane? and even there there are plugs
The old Dous counldn't drive an external monitor unless they were plugged in. I think it would be a great feature. I'd have no use for it, but it be freakin awsome.
I think if it's to happen, Apple would have to include a seperate power port on the back of the monitor. Like someone said, the monitor would be at a desk so it could/would/should be plugged into the wall. The mini-ADC, or even a normal ADC port could just channel the video information and even USB without power. The port on the screen could just be a recessed spot a plug could go into with an AC adapter on the wall end. On the back of the machine, it wouldn't even be noticed or used by PowerMac users and the circuitry required would be all that much.
<strong>How about a powerbook port replicator that's powered so you don't have to worry about running the display off any battery power?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not a bad idea, as long as it wasn't too heavy, etc. Although, the Cinema Display isn't the most portable monitor ever.
<strong>probably for the same reasons and more so that pc notebooks don't have dvi ports.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why don't PC Laptops have DVI ports? I've never really undrestood that. It can't really be for backwards compatability because DVI-I (which happens to be the version that ADC uses) carries both analog and digital signals.
Why don't PC Laptops have DVI ports? I've never really undrestood that. It can't really be for backwards compatability because DVI-I (which happens to be the version that ADC uses) carries both analog and digital signals.</strong><hr></blockquote>
1) Cost. It's not that much, but the port costs more, and so does the additional circuitry for providing both digital and analog ports.
2) Chicken-and-egg-problem. Almost nobody has DVI-Capable graphics cards, 'cos nobody has DVI-capable monitors anyway. At the same time, hardly anyone builds DVI-capable monitors, 'cos the installed base for cards with DVI out is too small.
(Though this seems to be changing lately - ATi's cards have DVI as standard now, IIRC, and so do the new GeForce cards.)
Part of the reason for the lack of DVI (and, I'm sure, ADC) is that few portable projectors have them. The laptops at my office (PowerBooks and Toshibas) are used a lot with InFocus projectors which lack a DVI port.
Most projectors in the $1500-$3500 range only have a VGA input (and RCA and S-Video) though DVI is trickling down.
If Apple switched the VGA for DVI, thousands of projectors (sold in the past, present, and future, all of which have VGA)--in schools, universities, marketing, sales, and trade shows--would be incompatible. While VGA and DVI to ADC solutions exist, they are much better suited to desktops (which has been said above).
<strong>If Apple switched the VGA for DVI, thousands of projectors (sold in the past, present, and future, all of which have VGA)--in schools, universities, marketing, sales, and trade shows--would be incompatible.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The nice thing about DVI-I (which is the most common type) and ADC is that they carry both the analog and digital signal. At least for DVI, all you need to connect to a standard VGA port is a really simple and cheap adapter (no electronics involved at all, it just takes some pins from a DVI connector on one side and connects them to the corresponding pins on a VGA plug on the other side). This thing is actually so cheap, it comes for free with ATi's Radeon VE cards for the PC).
Why don't PC Laptops carry DVI-I ports? No f'ing idea. It makes sense. Especially if you include the adapter WITH the laptop (like the RADEON All-In-Wonders and Apple GF4 Ti's do on the graphics card)
At the very least, Apple should sell their own adapter/converter. Isn't it odd that Apple makes this KICK ASS displays, but yet, if you own an iBook or PowerBook and want to augment it with a nice large screen when you're at home at your desk, you're SOL?
Weird.
If I wasn't so hung up on this new iMac, I'd LOVE to have an iBook or a TiBook, and then when I'm at home, simply hook it to a 17" Studio Display.
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however as a desktop replacement it makes sense, plug it in to the wall!... i mean if you can whip out the cin display you're probably at a desk with a power source right? i mean what asshole is gunna try and watch a dvd on his cin display in an airplane? and even there there are plugs
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they could... i wish they would... but i doubt they will... at least not until we see a new mobo in the Ti
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<strong>power a cin display off of a laptop batt? badnews
however as a desktop replacement it makes sense, plug it in to the wall!... i mean if you can whip out the cin display you're probably at a desk with a power source right? i mean what asshole is gunna try and watch a dvd on his cin display in an airplane? and even there there are plugs
<img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
they could... i wish they would... but i doubt they will... at least not until we see a new mobo in the Ti
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The old Dous counldn't drive an external monitor unless they were plugged in. I think it would be a great feature. I'd have no use for it, but it be freakin awsome.
If it had a miniadc port, you'd still need an adaport for the screen to connect it to.
If it had a VGA port (as it does) you already can use an adaptor to connect it to, same for DVI.
(or only for DVI?)
Well anyway, you won't get past buying an adaport, so it basically doesn't matter what you have.
G-News
converting/splitting vga
into some kind of box
that gives adc and external
power for the display..
Sure, I know it's analog, but this way you get the installed base of millions of existing Powerbook/iBook (and PC users).
That plus the new displays could be re-designed to look sleeker and lighter like the iMac's display.
<strong>How about a powerbook port replicator that's powered so you don't have to worry about running the display off any battery power?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not a bad idea, as long as it wasn't too heavy, etc. Although, the Cinema Display isn't the most portable monitor ever.
<strong>probably for the same reasons and more so that pc notebooks don't have dvi ports.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why don't PC Laptops have DVI ports? I've never really undrestood that. It can't really be for backwards compatability because DVI-I (which happens to be the version that ADC uses) carries both analog and digital signals.
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Why don't PC Laptops have DVI ports? I've never really undrestood that. It can't really be for backwards compatability because DVI-I (which happens to be the version that ADC uses) carries both analog and digital signals.</strong><hr></blockquote>
1) Cost. It's not that much, but the port costs more, and so does the additional circuitry for providing both digital and analog ports.
2) Chicken-and-egg-problem. Almost nobody has DVI-Capable graphics cards, 'cos nobody has DVI-capable monitors anyway. At the same time, hardly anyone builds DVI-capable monitors, 'cos the installed base for cards with DVI out is too small.
(Though this seems to be changing lately - ATi's cards have DVI as standard now, IIRC, and so do the new GeForce cards.)
Bye,
RazzFazz
Most projectors in the $1500-$3500 range only have a VGA input (and RCA and S-Video) though DVI is trickling down.
If Apple switched the VGA for DVI, thousands of projectors (sold in the past, present, and future, all of which have VGA)--in schools, universities, marketing, sales, and trade shows--would be incompatible. While VGA and DVI to ADC solutions exist, they are much better suited to desktops (which has been said above).
<strong>If Apple switched the VGA for DVI, thousands of projectors (sold in the past, present, and future, all of which have VGA)--in schools, universities, marketing, sales, and trade shows--would be incompatible.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The nice thing about DVI-I (which is the most common type) and ADC is that they carry both the analog and digital signal. At least for DVI, all you need to connect to a standard VGA port is a really simple and cheap adapter (no electronics involved at all, it just takes some pins from a DVI connector on one side and connects them to the corresponding pins on a VGA plug on the other side). This thing is actually so cheap, it comes for free with ATi's Radeon VE cards for the PC).
Bye,
RazzFazz
Apple Display Connecter = Battery Drain though.
Barto
Weird.
If I wasn't so hung up on this new iMac, I'd LOVE to have an iBook or a TiBook, and then when I'm at home, simply hook it to a 17" Studio Display.
I'm sure their are reasons.