If accurate, as seems likely, Apple's holiday lineup is set. Would be very surprised to see them disrupt the holiday season with any more new products.
This is just to bring Retina to the smaller iMac, right? No Thunderbolt 3/USB-C, or refresh for the larger Retina iMac.
So that means no refresh for Mac Pro and Thunderbolt Display this year. WWDC next year, methinks, for the Thunderbolt 3/USB-C introduction to the whole "Pro" line, both Mac and MacBook.
Make it a 24" screen and the sales will fly off the shelf.
As much as I prefer a 24" iMac as well, I think it would effectively kill the 27" model.
21.5" is a tad small...reduce the bevel and give us 22.5" or 23".
I've never got Apple's choice of a 21.5" display, why not just 22"? Anyway all of Apple's Mac lineup need of redesign and refresh. A slimmer iMac design maybe by ditching the HD for an SSD for instance...a much smaller more interesting design for the Mini by also ditching the HD for an SSD etc...
At the time they first launched the 21.5" in 2009 that was the standard 16:9 size going around. Dell, HP.. they all had 21.5' screens, so i'm guessing this was what the screen industry was pumping out.
I had had three since then, and I'd like to see the bezel cut right back, which must be possible in 2016 given the laptops out there now (like the dell XPS etc) giving the same overall surface area.
As for the HD - They'd need to dramatically reduce the price and increase the capacity for their SSDs. I have all ssd, on the 21, which is currently limited to 512. I then have a portable HDD below on the foot, which rather ruins the look but hey..
My view is that the 21 will go 4k, and then next year they will do a proper refresh of the design on both the iMacs. It's getting a bit old..
if true then those usual suspects in the media/blogging sphere will have them now to review them for the usual timeframe ready to release their opinions. so the rumour probably comes from one of them. Or at least the fact they've been summoned to a hotel somewhere in New York or the east coast.
What's odd is that they didn't really synchronise all this with the release of El Capitan
Im hoping they will release new keyboard/trackpad/mice to go along and for others too.
It is not odd that Apple did not synchronise with the release of El Capitan. That makes sense. Ever since Tim Cook has taken over, the computer lines have been updated in waves. For example the iMac, they have been updated in increments. All the machines had processor upgrades earlier this year, then a few months later, a 27" 5K iMac was introduced. A few months later, a lower end 21" iMac was released for about $1,100. Now a 4K version of the 21" iMac. No real consistent thought here. The notebooks have really been updated in a haphazard manner as well. First the Macbook Air, then the 13 inch Macbook Pros, then a new Macbook and finally the 15 inch Macbook Pros. But they all do not have the same processors (13" vs 15" MBP). No real rhyme or reason. You would think an across the board upgrade all at the same time would be easier??? Who knows, not the Apple sales force if you ask them. So why should this announcement surprise anybody.
I saw a fanboy brag about his ugly Alienware the other day.
Samsung should make a 40" version of the iMac. Then watch Apple haters scream "innovation!"
I'm surprised Samsung doesn't make one already. When I was last in South Korea, they had an iMac clone I saw in a few electronics stores. I don't think they sell those here in the States though.
I do believe it's all about the supply of IGZO at this point. No IGZO, no retina. Is that worth a refresh?
It's a refresh in a sense that the iMac still retains the same form factor from 2012. The only major change, at least so far, is the 4K screen. Again, I'm assuming that Apple is sticking with Broadwell, like how they did with the 5K iMac. If they go with Skylake, then it'll definitely be a more significant upgrade.
If it's the 5K, updated with a new Skylake chip and ports, it's probably easy for Apple to keep the wraps on it. Leaks only tend to show up when third party suppliers have new parts to contribute. This is all motherboard.
Speaking of third party suppliers, USB-C peripherals are far and few between, and Thunderbolt 3 peripherals are non-existent, AFAIK. So as much as I'd like you to be right, I just can't see Apple using the iMac to introduce this tech. Sure, they could ship it with adapters, but I just don't see them wanting to do that.
There will be an event next year where Apple introduces the next generation of displays (better color) and Thunderbolt 3 into the Pro line. The first product in this next generation is already on the way, the iPad Pro. Remember the focus on color tech in that presentation -- a sign of things to come.
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If accurate, as seems likely, Apple's holiday lineup is set. Would be very surprised to see them disrupt the holiday season with any more new products.
This is just to bring Retina to the smaller iMac, right? No Thunderbolt 3/USB-C, or refresh for the larger Retina iMac.
So that means no refresh for Mac Pro and Thunderbolt Display this year. WWDC next year, methinks, for the Thunderbolt 3/USB-C introduction to the whole "Pro" line, both Mac and MacBook.
https://thunderbolttechnology.net/blog/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-does-it-all
I can't imagine they'd release the new iMacs without TB3/USB-C. Why would anyone buy brand new computers with old ports?
As much as I prefer a 24" iMac as well, I think it would effectively kill the 27" model.
21.5" is a tad small...reduce the bevel and give us 22.5" or 23".
I can't imagine they'd release the new iMacs without TB3/USB-C. Why would anyone buy brand new computers with old ports?
I hope you're right!
But there hasn't been any sign of a 5K iMac refresh to go along with this. So this feels more like catch-up to me, rather than something entirely new.
I've never got Apple's choice of a 21.5" display, why not just 22"? Anyway all of Apple's Mac lineup need of redesign and refresh. A slimmer iMac design maybe by ditching the HD for an SSD for instance...a much smaller more interesting design for the Mini by also ditching the HD for an SSD etc...
At the time they first launched the 21.5" in 2009 that was the standard 16:9 size going around. Dell, HP.. they all had 21.5' screens, so i'm guessing this was what the screen industry was pumping out.
I had had three since then, and I'd like to see the bezel cut right back, which must be possible in 2016 given the laptops out there now (like the dell XPS etc) giving the same overall surface area.
As for the HD - They'd need to dramatically reduce the price and increase the capacity for their SSDs. I have all ssd, on the 21, which is currently limited to 512. I then have a portable HDD below on the foot, which rather ruins the look but hey..
My view is that the 21 will go 4k, and then next year they will do a proper refresh of the design on both the iMacs. It's getting a bit old..
Make it free and I'll buy one.
But..why just one?
Wouldn't hurt to give it more RAM either. Currently, it maxes out at 16.
if true then those usual suspects in the media/blogging sphere will have them now to review them for the usual timeframe ready to release their opinions. so the rumour probably comes from one of them. Or at least the fact they've been summoned to a hotel somewhere in New York or the east coast.
What's odd is that they didn't really synchronise all this with the release of El Capitan
Im hoping they will release new keyboard/trackpad/mice to go along and for others too.
It is not odd that Apple did not synchronise with the release of El Capitan. That makes sense. Ever since Tim Cook has taken over, the computer lines have been updated in waves. For example the iMac, they have been updated in increments. All the machines had processor upgrades earlier this year, then a few months later, a 27" 5K iMac was introduced. A few months later, a lower end 21" iMac was released for about $1,100. Now a 4K version of the 21" iMac. No real consistent thought here. The notebooks have really been updated in a haphazard manner as well. First the Macbook Air, then the 13 inch Macbook Pros, then a new Macbook and finally the 15 inch Macbook Pros. But they all do not have the same processors (13" vs 15" MBP). No real rhyme or reason. You would think an across the board upgrade all at the same time would be easier??? Who knows, not the Apple sales force if you ask them. So why should this announcement surprise anybody.
I hope you're right!
But there hasn't been any sign of a 5K iMac refresh to go along with this. So this feels more like catch-up to me, rather than something entirely new.
If it's the 5K, updated with a new Skylake chip and ports, it's probably easy for Apple to keep the wraps on it.
Leaks only tend to show up when third party suppliers have new parts to contribute. This is all motherboard.
If they paid me to take one, I'd take two.
If it was 32GB I'd buy one.
If it had a gap between the screen and keyboard I'd buy one.
I can't imagine they'd release the new iMacs without TB3/USB-C. Why would anyone buy brand new computers with old ports?
If these 4K iMacs are using Broadwell chips, then I don't see TB3 / USB-C. IOW, that would make it more of a refresh as opposed to a "brand new."
I can't imagine they'd release the new iMacs without TB3/USB-C. Why would anyone buy brand new computers with old ports?
Ask Mircrosoft:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2989859/tablet-pc/microsoft-surface-book-surface-pro-4-configurations-and-pricing-revealed.html
PCs STILL use towers?!!!
I saw a fanboy brag about his ugly Alienware the other day.
Samsung should make a 40" version of the iMac. Then watch Apple haters scream "innovation!"
I'm surprised Samsung doesn't make one already. When I was last in South Korea, they had an iMac clone I saw in a few electronics stores. I don't think they sell those here in the States though.
I do believe it's all about the supply of IGZO at this point. No IGZO, no retina. Is that worth a refresh?
I do believe it's all about the supply of IGZO at this point. No IGZO, no retina. Is that worth a refresh?
It's a refresh in a sense that the iMac still retains the same form factor from 2012. The only major change, at least so far, is the 4K screen. Again, I'm assuming that Apple is sticking with Broadwell, like how they did with the 5K iMac. If they go with Skylake, then it'll definitely be a more significant upgrade.
If it's the 5K, updated with a new Skylake chip and ports, it's probably easy for Apple to keep the wraps on it. Leaks only tend to show up when third party suppliers have new parts to contribute. This is all motherboard.
Speaking of third party suppliers, USB-C peripherals are far and few between, and Thunderbolt 3 peripherals are non-existent, AFAIK. So as much as I'd like you to be right, I just can't see Apple using the iMac to introduce this tech. Sure, they could ship it with adapters, but I just don't see them wanting to do that.
There will be an event next year where Apple introduces the next generation of displays (better color) and Thunderbolt 3 into the Pro line. The first product in this next generation is already on the way, the iPad Pro. Remember the focus on color tech in that presentation -- a sign of things to come.
Can we please get the keyboard mouse and trackpad updates we're all waiting for! Please!