It is laughably sad, and you know it. Don't embarrass the already-embarrassed Samsung users with ridiculousness like this.
You're right. I shouldn't have wasted my keystrokes replying to such an obvious troll comment. And I'll take it as a compliment that you think his post was beneath a reply from me. {Internet hug}
PS I'm not defending Samsung. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of the post I replied to. Samsung has enough people here skewering them. I don't need to pile it on, although I think rolling out a color of the same name is an unnecessary attempt to ride the wave of Apple's marketing.
You're right. I shouldn't have wasted my keystrokes replying to such an obvious troll comment. And I'll take it as a compliment that you think his post was beneath a reply from me. {Internet hug}
PS I'm not defending Samsung. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of the post I replied to. Samsung has enough people here skewering them. I don't need to pile it on, although I think rolling out a color of the same name is an unnecessary attempt to ride the wave of Apple's marketing.
As I recall the size debate here, a vast majority of the people fell into two distinct camps: one that unambiguously wanted Apple to move to a larger size, the other that felt that the iPhone's (then) size was fine as it was and that Samsung's move to a larger size to differentiate itself was no innovation.
If anyone' peddling ridiculous revisionist history in and about these forums, it's you.
I was at the midnight launch of the new iPhones here in India and I did see the Rose Gold option. It does look like copper, but it isn't a colour I'd buy.
Personally, I got fed-up of seeing a while front on my iPhone, which is why I opted for the Space Grey model this time around.
Goddammit, Samsung. You used to be good. The Note 3 or 4 was the pinnacle of what you created, and the S6/Note 5 was trying to hard to be an iPhone that it lost all direction of what made the earlier notes / S series good.
The best android phones really are elsewhere. Motorola, HTC, LG make fantastic phones that all go their own direction. Heck even Huawei and Xiaomi make great phones these days (though my Xiaomi Mi Note Pros have the entertaining habit of detecting tables that are off-level and sliding along them... lol). I love my G4, I love my M9 (though I regret that, it's the same as my M8 basically) and I can't wait to get my hands on the 5X/6P.
Get your own direction, Samsung. Stop trying too hard to be Apple or you'll cause people to just buy an iPhone.
Surely, there has to be some employee somewhere in their ranks that raised his hand and said: "I think you all are aware how utterly embracing for us what we are about to do is, right?"
It's pathetic how certain really screwed up Samsung defenders are attempting to seriously equate size with innovation, and they're even trying to do it with a straight face." src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
When I walk into a shoestore, I don't stand and marvel at a pair of sneakers that's size 15, and then think to myself, woah, that's some real innovation taking place there! They should patent that idea! Where did the inspiration behind making size 15 sneakers come from? Somebody should make a feature movie of that whole fascinating process one day. Which daring soul had the guts to abandon all conventional thinking and make a size 15 sneaker? Was it divine inspiration? It must have taken them years and countless R&D dollars to go from size 10 to 15. They can get Sorkin to write the screenplay.
Innovation is exactly what the first iPhone brought to the world. Virtually all modern phones are modelled after the iPhone.
When I walk into a shoestore, I don't stand and marvel at a pair of sneakers that's size 15, and then think to myself, woah, that's some real innovation taking place there!
Let's put some of this big phone who-was-first crap to rest. The reason phones started getting to sizes they are today is directly related to when LTE was coming around. The 2-for-1 chipsets required a LOT of space AND battery to make use of it = bigger phones. That's why Apple held off until Gen 2 chipsets came around before using LTE in the iPhones. The first LTE phone in the USA was the HTC Thunderbolt on Verizon, and it had a 4.3" screen.
There. A tidbit of history for all.
Samsung hasn't been first for anything truly useful, but they were first to start scouring Apple's patents to steal as many ideas as possible, and they're still doing it today. THAT'S the problem with our patent system... making all applications freely open to the public for all to see... and "borrow" in an ungodly competitive market.
The Note 3 or 4 was the pinnacle of what you created,
Sammy painted themselves into the corner by starting specs and the war of "natural evolution".
They started specs war themselves in order to beat Apple. They thought that specs were everything but along the way it started to become obvious that:
1) Specs is not everything (surprise).
2) (was a consequence of a specwar) there is no room to grow because the only thing Sammy has been offering so far is paper specs. Unfortunately for sammy it is time when chickens came home.
This time around specs are limited in several departments:
1. terrible memory management rendered 3-4GB of RAM on Android useless in terms of improvements it should offer. It is even worse than 1GB on iOS devices.
2. Multi (4 and more than 4) core setups got many people excited, but turned out that it is a terrible idea on mobile phones, where not that many apps can even fork off so many tasks that are truly parallel. That limits CPU power that each app can get to 25-50%.
3. 2560x1440 screen choice that was meant to impress combined with a poorly chosen GPU gave a very bad performance.
4. Curved away screen not only changed colors on those portions of the screen, but also posed a problem during production thereby limiting the number of units that could be produced.
All in all, it just seems to me that Sammy simply doesn't have any long term strategy which results in all sorts of knee-jerk reactions from the management.
when Apple copies Samsung (eg, phablet), it's an innovation. When Samsung copies Apple (eg, color) , it's a theft / disgrace / embarrassing / end of civilization. LOL!!
Sure, Samsung always copies and everything Apple does is original, but this is hilarious.
There's nothing, NOT A SINGLE THING innovative about a big iPhone.
I don't remember anyone saying a bigger screen iPhone was innovative. If anybody did they were full of sh**.
It wasn't innovative when Samsung made a bigger iPhone, it wasn't innovative when Apple did it.
That's ridiculous revisionist history. Everyone on this site recognized how different Samsung's approach to phone size was, and they made fun of them for it. The iPhone did not start the big phone trend in any way, shape, or form.
Sorry buddy but if you're over 16 years old I can't forgive you for your revisionist memory.
Anyone who lived in 2007 knows iPhone was criticized for being "too big" in a time when phones kept getting smaller and smaller.
At this time media and people talked about how phones will soon be the size of a domino and smaller. This was made fun of in comedy skits and the movie Zoolander.
Phone manufacturers were making them more compact. It was quite the engineering goal and achievement for them.
Around 2001 I had a friend who used a tiny non-flip phone. It was quite the bragging piece for her and we'd often gather around that little thing and discuss how small phones would be in the future.
I don't remember the brand or model but it was about the size of 3 dominos side by side.
Surely, there has to be some employee somewhere in their ranks that raised his hand and said: "I think you all are aware how utterly embracing for us what we are about to do is, right?"
This strategy is neither new nor an act of desperation. It is, and always has been, the basis for Samsung's business model across all the different industries in which they compete. To shamelessly copy and underprice the leading product and, when taken to court, pour money into prolonged legal battles that few companies can afford. They've successfully done hit sin vacuum cleaners, washing machines, and televisions.
when Apple copies Samsung (eg, phablet), it's an innovation. When Samsung copies Apple (eg, color) , it's a theft / disgrace / embarrassing / end of civilization. LOL!!
Sure, Samsung always copies and everything Apple does is original, but this is hilarious.
Perhaps you and Samsung believe differently but I don't consider size an innovation at all. From a hardware standpoint making a screen larger is trivial especially if the resolution is the same. The software can even be identical if you use the same LCD controller chips. You basically tell Sharp to give you the same thing but with bigger pixels. There's more of an issue if the resolutions are different but it's still very straight forward. Definitely not an innovation.
That's not to say that pink is an innovation either but a bigger size was obviously something people wanted whereas pink is eh... depends on the person. So the laughter at Samsung instead of Apple in my mind is..
1) Apple: bigger phone. no innovation. people want it bigger. so make it bigger.
2) Samsung: pink phone. no innovation. pick any color. nah.. just pick the color Apple did.
Actually.. I think the Samsung pink is ugly. Has anyone done a side by side comparison? This is way more pure pink in my eyes and less subtle gold. Perhaps its because the entire phone is completely pink where the front of the iPhone is white with white breaks in the back.
This Samsung pink phone looks like Hello Kitty puked on phone and stained every last sq cm of the thing...
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You're right. I shouldn't have wasted my keystrokes replying to such an obvious troll comment. And I'll take it as a compliment that you think his post was beneath a reply from me. {Internet hug}
PS I'm not defending Samsung. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of the post I replied to. Samsung has enough people here skewering them. I don't need to pile it on, although I think rolling out a color of the same name is an unnecessary attempt to ride the wave of Apple's marketing.
You're right. I shouldn't have wasted my keystrokes replying to such an obvious troll comment. And I'll take it as a compliment that you think his post was beneath a reply from me. {Internet hug}
PS I'm not defending Samsung. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of the post I replied to. Samsung has enough people here skewering them. I don't need to pile it on, although I think rolling out a color of the same name is an unnecessary attempt to ride the wave of Apple's marketing.
As I recall the size debate here, a vast majority of the people fell into two distinct camps: one that unambiguously wanted Apple to move to a larger size, the other that felt that the iPhone's (then) size was fine as it was and that Samsung's move to a larger size to differentiate itself was no innovation.
If anyone' peddling ridiculous revisionist history in and about these forums, it's you.
I was at the midnight launch of the new iPhones here in India and I did see the Rose Gold option. It does look like copper, but it isn't a colour I'd buy.
Personally, I got fed-up of seeing a while front on my iPhone, which is why I opted for the Space Grey model this time around.
Goddammit, Samsung. You used to be good. The Note 3 or 4 was the pinnacle of what you created, and the S6/Note 5 was trying to hard to be an iPhone that it lost all direction of what made the earlier notes / S series good.
The best android phones really are elsewhere. Motorola, HTC, LG make fantastic phones that all go their own direction. Heck even Huawei and Xiaomi make great phones these days (though my Xiaomi Mi Note Pros have the entertaining habit of detecting tables that are off-level and sliding along them... lol). I love my G4, I love my M9 (though I regret that, it's the same as my M8 basically) and I can't wait to get my hands on the 5X/6P.
Get your own direction, Samsung. Stop trying too hard to be Apple or you'll cause people to just buy an iPhone.
I believe you meant utterly embarrassing
Innovation is exactly what the first iPhone brought to the world. Virtually all modern phones are modelled after the iPhone.
Love it!
I'd expect to see that color on a curling iron.
Hey just my thought. I wonder why it doesn't do that on Apple's. Not that I would be caught using that color, I am a Space Grey customer
So very well said. Agree completely.
When have I ever defended them?
Let's put some of this big phone who-was-first crap to rest. The reason phones started getting to sizes they are today is directly related to when LTE was coming around. The 2-for-1 chipsets required a LOT of space AND battery to make use of it = bigger phones. That's why Apple held off until Gen 2 chipsets came around before using LTE in the iPhones. The first LTE phone in the USA was the HTC Thunderbolt on Verizon, and it had a 4.3" screen.
There. A tidbit of history for all.
Samsung hasn't been first for anything truly useful, but they were first to start scouring Apple's patents to steal as many ideas as possible, and they're still doing it today. THAT'S the problem with our patent system... making all applications freely open to the public for all to see... and "borrow" in an ungodly competitive market.
"Pink gold" on a pig.
#thisiskindafunny
The Note 3 or 4 was the pinnacle of what you created,
Sammy painted themselves into the corner by starting specs and the war of "natural evolution".
They started specs war themselves in order to beat Apple. They thought that specs were everything but along the way it started to become obvious that:
1) Specs is not everything (surprise).
2) (was a consequence of a specwar) there is no room to grow because the only thing Sammy has been offering so far is paper specs. Unfortunately for sammy it is time when chickens came home.
This time around specs are limited in several departments:
1. terrible memory management rendered 3-4GB of RAM on Android useless in terms of improvements it should offer. It is even worse than 1GB on iOS devices.
2. Multi (4 and more than 4) core setups got many people excited, but turned out that it is a terrible idea on mobile phones, where not that many apps can even fork off so many tasks that are truly parallel. That limits CPU power that each app can get to 25-50%.
3. 2560x1440 screen choice that was meant to impress combined with a poorly chosen GPU gave a very bad performance.
4. Curved away screen not only changed colors on those portions of the screen, but also posed a problem during production thereby limiting the number of units that could be produced.
All in all, it just seems to me that Sammy simply doesn't have any long term strategy which results in all sorts of knee-jerk reactions from the management.
There's nothing, NOT A SINGLE THING innovative about a big iPhone.
I don't remember anyone saying a bigger screen iPhone was innovative. If anybody did they were full of sh**.
It wasn't innovative when Samsung made a bigger iPhone, it wasn't innovative when Apple did it.
Sorry buddy but if you're over 16 years old I can't forgive you for your revisionist memory.
Anyone who lived in 2007 knows iPhone was criticized for being "too big" in a time when phones kept getting smaller and smaller.
At this time media and people talked about how phones will soon be the size of a domino and smaller. This was made fun of in comedy skits and the movie Zoolander.
Phone manufacturers were making them more compact. It was quite the engineering goal and achievement for them.
Around 2001 I had a friend who used a tiny non-flip phone. It was quite the bragging piece for her and we'd often gather around that little thing and discuss how small phones would be in the future.
I don't remember the brand or model but it was about the size of 3 dominos side by side.
You can imagine one of iPhone's biggest criticisms in 2007 was it being "monstrously" huge as seen in Samsung's documentation.
Further reading:
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/06/before-apples-iphone-was-too-small-it-was-too-monstrously-big/
Again if you're over 16 I can't forgive you. If you're 12 I understand, you didn't witness this era of cell phone history.
Surely, there has to be some employee somewhere in their ranks that raised his hand and said: "I think you all are aware how utterly embracing for us what we are about to do is, right?"
This strategy is neither new nor an act of desperation. It is, and always has been, the basis for Samsung's business model across all the different industries in which they compete. To shamelessly copy and underprice the leading product and, when taken to court, pour money into prolonged legal battles that few companies can afford. They've successfully done hit sin vacuum cleaners, washing machines, and televisions.
when Apple copies Samsung (eg, phablet), it's an innovation. When Samsung copies Apple (eg, color) , it's a theft / disgrace / embarrassing / end of civilization. LOL!!
Sure, Samsung always copies and everything Apple does is original, but this is hilarious.
Perhaps you and Samsung believe differently but I don't consider size an innovation at all. From a hardware standpoint making a screen larger is trivial especially if the resolution is the same. The software can even be identical if you use the same LCD controller chips. You basically tell Sharp to give you the same thing but with bigger pixels. There's more of an issue if the resolutions are different but it's still very straight forward. Definitely not an innovation.
That's not to say that pink is an innovation either but a bigger size was obviously something people wanted whereas pink is eh... depends on the person. So the laughter at Samsung instead of Apple in my mind is..
1) Apple: bigger phone. no innovation. people want it bigger. so make it bigger.
2) Samsung: pink phone. no innovation. pick any color. nah.. just pick the color Apple did.
Actually.. I think the Samsung pink is ugly. Has anyone done a side by side comparison? This is way more pure pink in my eyes and less subtle gold. Perhaps its because the entire phone is completely pink where the front of the iPhone is white with white breaks in the back.
This Samsung pink phone looks like Hello Kitty puked on phone and stained every last sq cm of the thing...
This Samsung pink phone looks like Hello Kitty puked on phone and stained every last sq cm of the thing...
I wouldn't put it past them that they'd force the poor kitty to do such a thing.