I definitely prefer my large screen Mac over my iPad. Better ergonomics, better precision of the cursor, better audio, more advanced applications, better multitasking and app switching, drag and drop form one app to the next. Even if it is just email, it is a much more pleasant experience. The iPad is mobile, that's it. Everything else is a compromise.
iPad isn't a Mac replacement. If you need a Mac on the go, get an MBA. But the MBA is also a compromise compared to an iMac.
Of course Cook does. He just does email, maybe some spreadsheets, FaceTime, and reviews other people's work.
Can't imagine the marketing, industrial design, and software engineers doing this.
I do some fast and messy prototyping on the iPad and then transfer to the Mac where things are a lot easier to fine tune.
The best thing about tablets are the rethinking that app designers are forced to do. This has resulted in a whole new area of great Mac apps as well as tablet apps.
I personally cannot wait for iPad pro. I'd love to do most things on it including hand drawn art. That's a big deal for me.
So glad I held off on the Adobe drawing tools.
Actually, Industrial Design, given proper apps, would be ideal for an iPad Pro; Mechanical Design of more than a part or small assemblies would be difficult, but not impossible. Software from Onshape will support Mechanical Design (in the Cloud) on the iPad Pro at some point in the future, so you can actually try this out; free for a few projects; $100 month for professional use.
iPad isn't a Mac replacement. If you need a Mac on the go, get an MBA. But the MBA is also a compromise compared to an iMac.
That's a given.
Funny thing is that before the iPad, I only had to bring my MBP and iPhone, now I have another couple pounds to carry because even though the iPad can't replace the Mac, I still want to have it with me for sitting at the gate, on the plane and at the food court.
Definitely not as nice or as fast. If the iPad had a mouse, I would agree. I find I am much faster with a PC/Mac with a mouse than an iPad with a touchscreen. Just my experience with the data I deal with.
If the iPad Pro had a mouse, it wouldn't be an iPad anymore.
Of course Tim is going to say that he's only using his iPad Pro (and iPhone and Apple Watch), he's doing a publicity tour for the iPad Pro.
I definitely prefer my large screen Mac over my iPad. Better ergonomics, better precision of the cursor, better audio, more advanced applications, better multitasking and app switching, drag and drop form one app to the next. Even if it is just email, it is a much more pleasant experience. The iPad is mobile, that's it. Everything else is a compromise.
So in other words, maybe something like a Surface Pro 4?
Many deride the Surface and its all in one approach, but seriously, isn't this where the iPad Pro is headed? It's only a matter of time before high end apps get ported to iOS.
Cook is right, particularly for those with a computer at home for the heavy lifting, in my case Creative Cloud apps. When Scrivener for iOS comes out, I'll have no need for my MacBook and hence a laptop.
The one hitch with tablets and smartphones on the go is the keyboard, which is often bulkier to carry than the device itself. Apple should put its creative genius into designing a ground-breaking replacement that's not just a regular keyboard shrunk down or folded. Make something as efficient as a keyboard without the bulk.
That really depends. Did you buy a Mac or WinPC because it was the best option at the time? Is your smartphone doing most of the stuff you need it for but wish the screen was larger so you never had to go to your Mac or WinPC again? Do you and the Mac or WinPC to have an overly complicated OS? Do you mostly on it use it for mail and web browsing?
So in other words, maybe something like a Surface Pro 4?
Many deride the Surface and its all in one approach, but seriously, isn't this where the iPad Pro is headed? It's only a matter of time before high end apps get ported to iOS.
The Surface forces a legacy model onto a new form factor. The iPad Pro extends a new model onto an extension of the now classic form factor.
So in other words, maybe something like a Surface Pro 4?
Many deride the Surface and its all in one approach, but seriously, isn't this where the iPad Pro is headed? It's only a matter of time before high end apps get ported to iOS.
I would never buy a Surface. Besides it is not ergonomic for long periods of detailed work. It is just a notebook and you are still hunched over the screen. My desk and chair costs 4 times what a Surface Pro costs, plus it is not a large screen, although you might be able to dock it, not sure. It is still Windows which is a nonstarter for me.
This is how I plan to travel in the Philippines next year, but with my iPad Air 2 in place of a Pro. I use an EyeFi memory card in my DSLR camera that sets up a local Wifi hotspot to transfer images in full resolution directly to my iPhone or iPad. I then use the Photo tools on the iDevice to edit and crop and then straight to the internet. Simple, portable, and an iPad Air fits in most hotel room safes, as does the camera when not in use.
I'm really happy to read this. If Apple's CEO is traveling exclusively with iOS devices, then it means he is going to firsthand experience whatever bugs, UI quirks and other problems it has. When he reports them to engineering, they are certain to get fixed. You can't be so sure when bugs are reported by ordinary customers via the Apple Feedback web page.
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Many deride the Surface and its all in one approach, but seriously, isn't this where the iPad Pro is headed? It's only a matter of time before high end apps get ported to iOS.
I would argue that there already are high-end apps for iOS. They're just not ports of Mac apps.
The Surface is a really nice piece of hardware, but I really believe Microsoft is not helping its customers by trying to ship one single UI paradigm that is expected to run on all devices from a desktop (maybe with two 30" displays) all the way down to a mobile phone with a 4" touch-screen. UI designs that work great on one scale simply don't work well on the other.
Apple gets this, which is why Mac OS X, iOS, WatchOS and TvOS all look and feel different from each other, despite having the same system architecture under the covers. I don't think Microsoft has figured it out yet.
Tim Cook is a consumer of information. He doesn't necessarily need to create anything. He reviews company reports, writes some emails, certainly does a lot of phone conversations.
He's not a coder, doesn't have to assemble/product finished products/reports. When you're in that position, you have others do the grunt work. So for him, of course an iPad more than suffices.
I would argue that an iPhone 6+ would be enough, but obviously, a larger screen works better for just about everything.
Tim Cook has people to do any complicated work on their Macbook when he travels. I'm sure he doesn't travel alone. He himself probably doesn't need anything more than the iPad Pro. Probably plenty of people would be fine with the iPad Pro. Seems like a pretty capable system.
I would never buy a Surface. Besides it is not ergonomic for long periods of detailed work. It is just a notebook and you are still hunched over the screen. My desk and chair costs 4 times what a Surface Pro costs, plus it is not a large screen, although you might be able to dock it, not sure. It is still Windows which is a nonstarter for me.
For those who utilize a windows environment at work (still the majority of the world) connecting to a Surface via RDP at work and then taking it on the road is fairly awesome.
You have full desktop usability in the office and all your everything on the road.
Funny thing is that before the iPad, I only had to bring my MBP and iPhone, now I have another couple pounds to carry because even though the iPad can't replace the Mac, I still want to have it with me for sitting at the gate, on the plane and at the food court.
Ya all these devices are better than the others in some use cases. Not compromising can weigh you down.
That really depends. Did you buy a Mac or WinPC because it was the best option at the time? Is your smartphone doing most of the stuff you need it for but wish the screen was larger so you never had to go to your Mac or WinPC again? Do you and the Mac or WinPC to have an overly complicated OS? Do you mostly on it use it for mail and web browsing?
I meant as a 1:1 replacement. For certain use cases, the iPad is a perfect replacement.
I definitely prefer my large screen Mac over my iPad. Better ergonomics, better precision of the cursor, better audio, more advanced applications, better multitasking and app switching, drag and drop form one app to the next. Even if it is just email, it is a much more pleasant experience. The iPad is mobile, that's it. Everything else is a compromise.
For those who utilize a windows environment at work (still the majority of the world) connecting to a Surface via RDP at work and then taking it on the road is fairly awesome.
You have full desktop usability in the office and all your everything on the road.
Macs run Windows too.
I hate RDP. It is somethings glitchy and slow and you still need two computers. Why don't you just use a Display Port or HDMI and hook up the Surface to an external monitor?
Personally I don't do any work once I leave the office and I would much rather sync my documents to the cloud. That way I always have a backup. If everything is on the notebook, you take a risk for data loss. When I go on the road it is for a long time not just a day or two. I make sure I have everything I need before I go but if I forgot something I can always get it with Back to My Mac. I leave my office Macs running 24/7 so I can access my network from anywhere.
I would argue that there already are high-end apps for iOS. They're just not ports of Mac apps.
The Surface is a really nice piece of hardware, but I really believe Microsoft is not helping its customers by trying to ship one single UI paradigm that is expected to run on all devices from a desktop (maybe with two 30" displays) all the way down to a mobile phone with a 4" touch-screen. UI designs that work great on one scale simply don't work well on the other.
Apple gets this, which is why Mac OS X, iOS, WatchOS and TvOS all look and feel different from each other, despite having the same system architecture under the covers. I don't think Microsoft has figured it out yet.
We can be guaranteed that the day Apple announces a Mac with a touchscreen, there will be months of endless gloating by the public. I think Apple is trying to delay this as long as they can, perhaps until Jony Ive or Phil Schiller retire, because their fragile egos may not be able to handle being publicly called out and asked to explain. Just look at all the uproar caused by the Pencil after Steve put his foot in his mouth. You want to see Jony Ive lose any more hair, or Schiller go through more binge eating? " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
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iPad isn't a Mac replacement. If you need a Mac on the go, get an MBA. But the MBA is also a compromise compared to an iMac.
That's a given.
...and his lucky underwear. Can't go anywhere to close a deal without his lucky underwear...
Of course Cook does. He just does email, maybe some spreadsheets, FaceTime, and reviews other people's work.
Can't imagine the marketing, industrial design, and software engineers doing this.
I do some fast and messy prototyping on the iPad and then transfer to the Mac where things are a lot easier to fine tune.
The best thing about tablets are the rethinking that app designers are forced to do. This has resulted in a whole new area of great Mac apps as well as tablet apps.
I personally cannot wait for iPad pro. I'd love to do most things on it including hand drawn art. That's a big deal for me.
So glad I held off on the Adobe drawing tools.
Actually, Industrial Design, given proper apps, would be ideal for an iPad Pro; Mechanical Design of more than a part or small assemblies would be difficult, but not impossible. Software from Onshape will support Mechanical Design (in the Cloud) on the iPad Pro at some point in the future, so you can actually try this out; free for a few projects; $100 month for professional use.
https://www.onshape.com
I'm hoping that Fusion 360 from Autodesk arrives for the iPad Pro at some point, as well as Sketchbook Pro.
iPad isn't a Mac replacement. If you need a Mac on the go, get an MBA. But the MBA is also a compromise compared to an iMac.
That's a given.
Funny thing is that before the iPad, I only had to bring my MBP and iPhone, now I have another couple pounds to carry because even though the iPad can't replace the Mac, I still want to have it with me for sitting at the gate, on the plane and at the food court.
If the iPad Pro had a mouse, it wouldn't be an iPad anymore.Of course Tim is going to say that he's only using his iPad Pro (and iPhone and Apple Watch), he's doing a publicity tour for the iPad Pro.
Many deride the Surface and its all in one approach, but seriously, isn't this where the iPad Pro is headed? It's only a matter of time before high end apps get ported to iOS.
The one hitch with tablets and smartphones on the go is the keyboard, which is often bulkier to carry than the device itself. Apple should put its creative genius into designing a ground-breaking replacement that's not just a regular keyboard shrunk down or folded. Make something as efficient as a keyboard without the bulk.
Amaze us Apple.
That really depends. Did you buy a Mac or WinPC because it was the best option at the time? Is your smartphone doing most of the stuff you need it for but wish the screen was larger so you never had to go to your Mac or WinPC again? Do you and the Mac or WinPC to have an overly complicated OS? Do you mostly on it use it for mail and web browsing?
The Surface forces a legacy model onto a new form factor. The iPad Pro extends a new model onto an extension of the now classic form factor.
So in other words, maybe something like a Surface Pro 4?
Many deride the Surface and its all in one approach, but seriously, isn't this where the iPad Pro is headed? It's only a matter of time before high end apps get ported to iOS.
I would never buy a Surface. Besides it is not ergonomic for long periods of detailed work. It is just a notebook and you are still hunched over the screen. My desk and chair costs 4 times what a Surface Pro costs, plus it is not a large screen, although you might be able to dock it, not sure. It is still Windows which is a nonstarter for me.
I'm really happy to read this. If Apple's CEO is traveling exclusively with iOS devices, then it means he is going to firsthand experience whatever bugs, UI quirks and other problems it has. When he reports them to engineering, they are certain to get fixed. You can't be so sure when bugs are reported by ordinary customers via the Apple Feedback web page.
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Many deride the Surface and its all in one approach, but seriously, isn't this where the iPad Pro is headed? It's only a matter of time before high end apps get ported to iOS.
I would argue that there already are high-end apps for iOS. They're just not ports of Mac apps.
The Surface is a really nice piece of hardware, but I really believe Microsoft is not helping its customers by trying to ship one single UI paradigm that is expected to run on all devices from a desktop (maybe with two 30" displays) all the way down to a mobile phone with a 4" touch-screen. UI designs that work great on one scale simply don't work well on the other.
Apple gets this, which is why Mac OS X, iOS, WatchOS and TvOS all look and feel different from each other, despite having the same system architecture under the covers. I don't think Microsoft has figured it out yet.
Tim Cook is a consumer of information. He doesn't necessarily need to create anything. He reviews company reports, writes some emails, certainly does a lot of phone conversations.
He's not a coder, doesn't have to assemble/product finished products/reports. When you're in that position, you have others do the grunt work. So for him, of course an iPad more than suffices.
I would argue that an iPhone 6+ would be enough, but obviously, a larger screen works better for just about everything.
"I'm traveling with the iPad Pro and other than the iPhone it's the only product I've got"
There's a minion for that... or an intern.
I would never buy a Surface. Besides it is not ergonomic for long periods of detailed work. It is just a notebook and you are still hunched over the screen. My desk and chair costs 4 times what a Surface Pro costs, plus it is not a large screen, although you might be able to dock it, not sure. It is still Windows which is a nonstarter for me.
For those who utilize a windows environment at work (still the majority of the world) connecting to a Surface via RDP at work and then taking it on the road is fairly awesome.
You have full desktop usability in the office and all your everything on the road.
Ya all these devices are better than the others in some use cases. Not compromising can weigh you down.
I meant as a 1:1 replacement. For certain use cases, the iPad is a perfect replacement.
I heard he goes commando.
I definitely prefer my large screen Mac over my iPad. Better ergonomics, better precision of the cursor, better audio, more advanced applications, better multitasking and app switching, drag and drop form one app to the next. Even if it is just email, it is a much more pleasant experience. The iPad is mobile, that's it. Everything else is a compromise.
Did you miss the word "travels" in the headline?
For those who utilize a windows environment at work (still the majority of the world) connecting to a Surface via RDP at work and then taking it on the road is fairly awesome.
You have full desktop usability in the office and all your everything on the road.
Macs run Windows too.
I hate RDP. It is somethings glitchy and slow and you still need two computers. Why don't you just use a Display Port or HDMI and hook up the Surface to an external monitor?
Personally I don't do any work once I leave the office and I would much rather sync my documents to the cloud. That way I always have a backup. If everything is on the notebook, you take a risk for data loss. When I go on the road it is for a long time not just a day or two. I make sure I have everything I need before I go but if I forgot something I can always get it with Back to My Mac. I leave my office Macs running 24/7 so I can access my network from anywhere.
I would argue that there already are high-end apps for iOS. They're just not ports of Mac apps.
The Surface is a really nice piece of hardware, but I really believe Microsoft is not helping its customers by trying to ship one single UI paradigm that is expected to run on all devices from a desktop (maybe with two 30" displays) all the way down to a mobile phone with a 4" touch-screen. UI designs that work great on one scale simply don't work well on the other.
Apple gets this, which is why Mac OS X, iOS, WatchOS and TvOS all look and feel different from each other, despite having the same system architecture under the covers. I don't think Microsoft has figured it out yet.
We can be guaranteed that the day Apple announces a Mac with a touchscreen, there will be months of endless gloating by the public. I think Apple is trying to delay this as long as they can, perhaps until Jony Ive or Phil Schiller retire, because their fragile egos may not be able to handle being publicly called out and asked to explain. Just look at all the uproar caused by the Pencil after Steve put his foot in his mouth. You want to see Jony Ive lose any more hair, or Schiller go through more binge eating?
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