After France was dealt retribution for its air strikes, control-freaks in the USA chose to take advantage of the on-going murder and genocide in the Middle East to push their continuing erosion of the right to privacy.
Fortunately, Apple is still leading the industry by providing end-to-end encryption, forcing Homeland Security to do its job by gaining evidence of unlawful activity prior to accessing people's private data.
Once again, the key point of why some people feel driven to a suicide bombing - let that sink in a little.
A suicide bombing.
Yeah - a suicide bombing - to argue for national sovereignty, the media once again fails to address why such actions are deemed necessary.
Although some may argue that the media is innocent of public opinion manipulation, the total lack of historical conext and constant coverage of hysteria indicates a huge lack of journalistic integrity.
Are the western nations at all culpable in any retaliatory acts?
Could invading other countries to grab 'control' the flow of oil be worth murdering so many?
I really hope the issues presented on Apple Insider, especially regards Tim Cook's responses to breaking encryption, are given sufficient context for public awareness. This situation has wide-ranging consequences, not just for US nationals living inside US boarders.
May the killing end. Sooner the better.
You say, Hysteria, well your own reply is hysteria too. The media's got nothing on you!
BTW, you just sort of gave a "This is terrible, but the west did this and this and this.." argument for this whole thing... The same used by ISIS itself for doing this. No need for proof for those conspiracies to work their magic influencing the minds of idiots in the muslim ghettos (there are idiots in all populations).
You say, Hysteria, well your own reply is hysteria too. The media's got nothing on you!
BTW, you just sort of gave a "This is terrible, but the west did this and this and this.." argument for this whole thing... The same used by ISIS itself for doing this. No need for proof for those conspiracies to work their magic influencing the minds of idiots in the muslim ghettos (there are idiots in all populations).
So, what is your insight, and your conclusion?
(Please don't mistake satire for facetiousness.)
After France was dealt retribution for its air strikes, control-freaks in the USA chose to take advantage of the on-going murder and genocide in the Middle East to push their continuing erosion of the right to privacy.
Fortunately, Apple is still leading the industry by providing end-to-end encryption, forcing Homeland Security to do its job by gaining evidence of unlawful activity prior to accessing people's private data.
Once again, the key point of why some people feel driven to a suicide bombing - let that sink in a little.
A suicide bombing.
Yeah - a suicide bombing - to argue for national sovereignty, the media once again fails to address why such actions are deemed necessary.
Although some may argue that the media is innocent of public opinion manipulation, the total lack of historical conext and constant coverage of hysteria indicates a huge lack of journalistic integrity.
Are the western nations at all culpable in any retaliatory acts?
Could invading other countries to grab 'control' the flow of oil be worth murdering so many?
I really hope the issues presented on Apple Insider, especially regards Tim Cook's responses to breaking encryption, are given sufficient context for public awareness. This situation has wide-ranging consequences, not just for US nationals living inside US boarders.
What about they use the 1000 other options... Good grief. You think terrorists are idiots?
So, it's not privacy vs security, that's a good old false dichotomy. Check that up.
It;'s privacy vs less privacy and security is totally unrelated to it.
State security, to some extent, is part of my job (since 1990....).
You are somewhat correct about the existence of other methods, but you are being naive if you think security and privacy aren't related
All of Russia’s first-class aviation fuel was supplied by the USA. [...]
How does your copy and paste refute his comment that the Allies won the war, not America? If either the western or eastern fronts had collapsed before America's involvement, the war in Europe would have been near impossible to win. Even after the America joined, it still needed the man-power of Russia. D-Day could have gone very differently if America and Britain had been facing Germany's elite forces.
You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else. - Winston Churchill
You do realize the argument for needing gun control is just as invalid, right? Or do guns in the hands of good guys scare you more than your information in the hands of corrupt politicians? It is just another fear tactic used by the politicians to accomplish their agenda.
When we lived in villages and small towns, before telecommunications, communities were intimate and there was no real privacy. I'm just saying that 'privacy' is something that the vast majority of humans have lived without for quite some time. It'd be nice to have, but it's not as if losing it, or a certain degrees of it, will be removing something we've always had.
With billions of texts and phone calls being exchanged every day, the only way security services can work effectively is where they monitor a relatively tiny number of suspects. The list that is monitored should have approval from a democratically elected official in conjunction with members of the independent judiciary.
Both guns and now secure phones can be used by evil people to commit horrendous acts. The government refuses to do anything about guns, which are used in far more crimes than phones, but they'll go on all the talk shows to promote removing privacy from phones. I guess Apple and Google need to spend as much money on campaigns as the gun industry does in order to keep the politicians away.
Blah, blah, blah. A lot of people want real gun control yet the government does nothing. Lots of innocent people have died in schools, malls, just about everywhere because of guns but all they can talk about is a way to spy on everyone in an attempt to locate these people before they do something. Hey, you know what? It isn't going to work. "Bad" people will always find a way to talk to each other without someone listening and honest people will always have to pay the price of losing our privacy because of the inability of governments to treat people nicely and get rid of an environment where there is hate. It's not Apple's fault for doing their best to protect people's privacy.
Another Argumentum ad Terrorem!
It's really funny watching all those guns running around society. Driving to work, shopping at walmart. Why do guns shop at walmart? I don't know, but the government, she does nothing!
You want to take guns away, you're the criminal scumbag in the equation. (And lacking in critical thinking skills to boot.)
Turned out great. Compare gun-related deaths, the US stinks
The problem is, you gun grabbers never do. For instance in Britain when guns were banned, murder by handgun went up dramatically-- because now the bad guys knew their victims were disarmed. Murders over all skyrocketed.
You don't want to get rid of guns- you want the out of control cops to have them to easily murder us and the innocent citizens to be unable to defend themselves.
You're just like the sheep who vote for every tyrant.
You civil liberties/privacy blowhards are living in a dream world. The entire fight over eavesdropping/privacy/tapping is bogus. Nothing electronic is private. Period. It hasn't been since the dawn of the internet, and the phone before that. Whether we like it or not, the government has been conducting mass surveillance for 50 years. It's the price of living in a technologically advanced society. Do you honest think you're going to stop mass surveillance? You honestly think you'll ever have "privacy" with any electronic communication? It's laughable. This whole debate is a dog and pony show. As a member here for over 15 years, it's funny watching a new generation of 18-25 year olds scream about civil liberties and get excited over Ron Paul, Jr. As Scott_h_PHD used to say: "Rock 'n Roll baby. Freedom of speech"
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The Battle of the Evil Monsters
After France was dealt retribution for its air strikes, control-freaks in the USA chose to take advantage of the on-going murder and genocide in the Middle East to push their continuing erosion of the right to privacy.
Fortunately, Apple is still leading the industry by providing end-to-end encryption, forcing Homeland Security to do its job by gaining evidence of unlawful activity prior to accessing people's private data.
Once again, the key point of why some people feel driven to a suicide bombing - let that sink in a little.
A suicide bombing.
Yeah - a suicide bombing - to argue for national sovereignty, the media once again fails to address why such actions are deemed necessary.
Although some may argue that the media is innocent of public opinion manipulation, the total lack of historical conext and constant coverage of hysteria indicates a huge lack of journalistic integrity.
Are the western nations at all culpable in any retaliatory acts?
Could invading other countries to grab 'control' the flow of oil be worth murdering so many?
I really hope the issues presented on Apple Insider, especially regards Tim Cook's responses to breaking encryption, are given sufficient context for public awareness. This situation has wide-ranging consequences, not just for US nationals living inside US boarders.
May the killing end. Sooner the better.
You say, Hysteria, well your own reply is hysteria too. The media's got nothing on you!
BTW, you just sort of gave a "This is terrible, but the west did this and this and this.." argument for this whole thing... The same used by ISIS itself for doing this. No need for proof for those conspiracies to work their magic influencing the minds of idiots in the muslim ghettos (there are idiots in all populations).
So, what is your insight, and your conclusion?
(Please don't mistake satire for facetiousness.)
You are somewhat correct about the existence of other methods, but you are being naive if you think security and privacy aren't related
Jeeze, sounds like a tea-bagger convention in here.
Sounds like you balls on your face.
All of Russia’s first-class aviation fuel was supplied by the USA. [...]
How does your copy and paste refute his comment that the Allies won the war, not America? If either the western or eastern fronts had collapsed before America's involvement, the war in Europe would have been near impossible to win. Even after the America joined, it still needed the man-power of Russia. D-Day could have gone very differently if America and Britain had been facing Germany's elite forces.
You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else. - Winston Churchill
What about they use the 1000 other options... Good grief. You think terrorists are idiots?
So, it's not privacy vs security, that's a good old false dichotomy. Check that up.
It;'s privacy vs less privacy and security is totally unrelated to it.
As a French guy, I'd rather that iOS stays secure. It protects people while not changing anything for terrorists.
YOU'RE ENTIRELY CORRECT IN YOUR ANALYSIS.
You can still profile. You just can't use race, sex, religion or age as part of the person. So you can say: "we are looking for a bad person".
You do realize the argument for needing gun control is just as invalid, right? Or do guns in the hands of good guys scare you more than your information in the hands of corrupt politicians? It is just another fear tactic used by the politicians to accomplish their agenda.
I read this article yesterday that Germany is cutting back on its spying as the US and other countries are now trying to increase theirs. The spying will do nothing to stop terrorist attacks. http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/16/germany-to-limit-spying-powers/ ;
The real issue is due process, not 100% privacy or unbreakable encryption.
When we lived in villages and small towns, before telecommunications, communities were intimate and there was no real privacy. I'm just saying that 'privacy' is something that the vast majority of humans have lived without for quite some time. It'd be nice to have, but it's not as if losing it, or a certain degrees of it, will be removing something we've always had.
With billions of texts and phone calls being exchanged every day, the only way security services can work effectively is where they monitor a relatively tiny number of suspects. The list that is monitored should have approval from a democratically elected official in conjunction with members of the independent judiciary.
Blah, blah, blah. A lot of people want real gun control yet the government does nothing. Lots of innocent people have died in schools, malls, just about everywhere because of guns but all they can talk about is a way to spy on everyone in an attempt to locate these people before they do something. Hey, you know what? It isn't going to work. "Bad" people will always find a way to talk to each other without someone listening and honest people will always have to pay the price of losing our privacy because of the inability of governments to treat people nicely and get rid of an environment where there is hate. It's not Apple's fault for doing their best to protect people's privacy.
Another Argumentum ad Terrorem!
It's really funny watching all those guns running around society. Driving to work, shopping at walmart. Why do guns shop at walmart? I don't know, but the government, she does nothing!
You want to take guns away, you're the criminal scumbag in the equation. (And lacking in critical thinking skills to boot.)
Turned out great. Compare gun-related deaths, the US stinks
The problem is, you gun grabbers never do. For instance in Britain when guns were banned, murder by handgun went up dramatically-- because now the bad guys knew their victims were disarmed. Murders over all skyrocketed.
You don't want to get rid of guns- you want the out of control cops to have them to easily murder us and the innocent citizens to be unable to defend themselves.
You're just like the sheep who vote for every tyrant.
You civil liberties/privacy blowhards are living in a dream world. The entire fight over eavesdropping/privacy/tapping is bogus. Nothing electronic is private. Period. It hasn't been since the dawn of the internet, and the phone before that. Whether we like it or not, the government has been conducting mass surveillance for 50 years. It's the price of living in a technologically advanced society. Do you honest think you're going to stop mass surveillance? You honestly think you'll ever have "privacy" with any electronic communication? It's laughable. This whole debate is a dog and pony show. As a member here for over 15 years, it's funny watching a new generation of 18-25 year olds scream about civil liberties and get excited over Ron Paul, Jr. As Scott_h_PHD used to say: "Rock 'n Roll baby. Freedom of speech"