Another security manual recommends using Apple iMessage: this time, ISIS

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  • Reply 21 of 200
    joshajosha Posts: 901member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

     
    "If you see a Muslim with an iPhone, arrest them.” Donald Trump


    ISIS must love Trump;  he supports their "approach"  to non Muslims.

  • Reply 22 of 200
    joshajosha Posts: 901member
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    Originally Posted by redefiler View Post



    What exactly does Islam say about infidel technology? It's a stupid superstitious cult, that should be grounds enough for not getting access to computers. Kinda like Christians or Democrats, these are all loser cults that prey on weak people, just to be used as peasant infantry/servants for their masters.

    You forgot to include USA Republicans.

  • Reply 23 of 200
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    Gizmodo: APPLE SUPPORTS TERRORISM




    Like the only sane comment in here.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 9secondko View Post





    "If a Muslim uses an iPhone to commit acts of terror, we should prosecute the manufacturers." - Hilary Clinton.



    Her stance on this issue depends on how bribes donations to the Clinton Crime Global Initiative have gone this month.

  • Reply 24 of 200
    misamisa Posts: 827member
    Gizmodo: APPLE SUPPORTS TERRORISM

    A better stance is "we wouldn't need to encrypt if the government wouldn't snoop"

    Like, I'm not fond of HTTPS everywhere, because it needlessly complicates the web, and just fills the pockets of SSL certificate providers, while adding zero value to 99.999% of the content out there. Do you REALLY think Youtube needs to be secured? No.... at least not the cat videos. MPAA wants it because they're afraid of theft. Oh boo hoo.

    Encryption is a two-way street. You can, and should encrypt anything you want not tampered with. When ISP's started tampering with DNS and redirecting people to their own 404 pages, that was enough to get people to quit using the ISP provided DNS servers. ISP greed is what is driving this, but it's also going to render AdBlock useless pretty soon, since AdBlock can't/shouldn't modify secure pages... and if it is, it's compromising the security mechanisms.

    People who are scared of government surveillance, shouldn't be using Chrome. Probably unwise to use any browser that can reach into the OS's positioning information or has cloud services.

    But as they say, if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide right? RIGHT? Echelon.
  • Reply 25 of 200
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    Originally Posted by Corrections View Post

     



    What basis in reality is there for your comment? Republican candidates have actually endorsed the idea of rounding up Muslims and branding them like the NSDAP did in Germany in WWII.


     

    Nope. Nice try, that's a lie. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-the-crazy-trump-muslim-database-story-got-started/article/2576891

     

    I don't like Trump at all, but the media lied on this one (as usual).

  • Reply 26 of 200
    Nope. Nice try, that's a lie. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-the-crazy-trump-muslim-database-story-got-started/article/2576891

    I don't like Trump at all, but the media lied on this one (as usual).

    Quoting some right wing blog doesn't change the fact the front running Republican candidate is a populist-exploiting phony clown who endorses both Nazi concentration camps and Soviet style wall construction to appease the racist, white-supremacist base of the Tea Party. Trump knows republicans are easily exploited by fear mongering. He's playing conservatives as fools.

    Making excuses for his wild antics just shows how incredibly insane the remaining base of religious conservative fundamentalists are.
  • Reply 27 of 200
    Originally Posted by Corrections View Post

    Republican candidates have actually endorsed the idea of rounding up Muslims and branding them like the NSDAP did in Germany in WWII. 



    Sorry, no.

     

    Liberal candidates have stated they want to charge gun manufacturers for selling the guns that caused crimes, however.

     

    Originally Posted by Corrections View Post

    ...Nazi concentration camps and Soviet style wall construction to appease the racist, white-supremacist base of the Tea Party.

     

    I’d report that as a blatant lie–at the very least an utter lack of comprehension of the relevant topics–but I know where it would go...

  • Reply 28 of 200
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member

    Sorry, no.

    Liberal candidates have stated they want to charge gun manufacturers for selling the guns that caused crimes, however.


    I’d report that as a blatant lie–at the very least an utter lack of comprehension of the relevant topics–but I know where it would go...

    You accuse others of a lack of comprehension?
  • Reply 29 of 200
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

    You accuse others of a lack of comprehension?

     

    In equating the legal enforcement of our national borders to marxist totalitarianism and in equating libel about a topic already done en masse by our government to national socialism?

     

    Yeah, that would be a pretty accurate assessment, actually. Whether the lack comes from a failure to consider information or a failure to desire to consider it isn’t really the point. If it’s just something that hadn’t been taken into account, that’s no one’s fault. But saying these things seriously speaks to a lack of understanding.

  • Reply 30 of 200

    Sorry, no.

    Liberal candidates have stated they want to charge gun manufacturers for selling the guns that caused crimes, however.


    I’d report that as a blatant lie–at the very least an utter lack of comprehension of the relevant topics–but I know where it would go...

    We could point out that it was the Democrat, FDR, who rounded up Japanese citizens and put them in camps. But that bit of history seems to be ignored.
  • Reply 31 of 200
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    In equating the legal enforcement of our national borders to marxist totalitarianism and in equating libel about a topic already done en masse by our government to national socialism?

    Yeah, that would be a pretty accurate assessment, actually. Whether the lack comes from a failure to consider information or a failure to desire to consider it isn’t really the point. If it’s just something that hadn’t been taken into account, that’s no one’s fault. But saying these things seriously speaks to a lack of understanding.

    I only asked as someone who has lived in several countries, I seem to have a somewhat different understanding of many of the labels you use. That's the problem with language of course.
  • Reply 32 of 200
    You accuse others of a lack of comprehension?

    In equating the legal enforcement of our national borders to marxist totalitarianism and in equating libel about a topic already done en masse by our government to national socialism?

    Yeah, that would be a pretty accurate assessment, actually. Whether the lack comes from a failure to consider information or a failure to desire to consider it isn’t really the point. If it’s just something that hadn’t been taken into account, that’s no one’s fault. But saying these things seriously speaks to a lack of understanding.

    TS, please stop posting incomprehensible crap. Thank you.
  • Reply 33 of 200

    We could point out that it was the Democrat, FDR, who rounded up Japanese citizens and put them in camps. But that bit of history seems to be ignored.

    This is a good point. (Just as people forget the fact that Lincoln was a Republican.)

    The problem is, most of the nut cases now on the anti-immigrant (unless they're Cubans) front are Republican presidential candidates. That is just a sad fact.
  • Reply 34 of 200
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

    I seem to have a somewhat different understanding of many of the labels you use. That's the problem with language of course.

     

    Oh, no worries.

     

    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

    TS, please stop posting incomprehensible crap. Thank you.

     

    If you don’t understand it, I’ll be happy to clarify.

     

    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

    ...anti-immigrant...

     

    I don’t know of a single anti-immigrant candidate.

  • Reply 35 of 200
    palegolaspalegolas Posts: 1,361member
    Authorities should be more concerned about giving everyone access to guns than to encryption. I bet guns kill many more people than encryption. Just a though..
  • Reply 36 of 200
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    Originally Posted by 9secondko View Post





    "If a Muslim uses an iPhone to commit acts of terror, we should prosecute the manufacturers." - Hilary Clinton.



    SOP for the US Legal System.

    If a device fails and causes injury it is common place for the lawyers to sue every company that made parts for the item that failed. IT does not matter if the bit that company Z made was involved with the failure or not. I call it the spray effect. Something is bound to stick. When it does then $$$$ Profit results.

     

    It is about time that victims of gun violence did the same to the makers of guns (YMMV and I respect this).

    Perhaps then the legal system will sort itself out. Guns are nothing but tools like the iPhone/android/WinPhone/BBerry/etc

  • Reply 37 of 200

    Originally Posted by rotateleftbyte View Post

    It is about time that victims of gun violence did the same to the makers of guns (YMMV and I respect this).

     

    Why do you support this psychosis? Why do you believe that the situation is in any way relevant to your analogy?

  • Reply 38 of 200

    this sort of flies in the face of this article http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34842854

     

    "Most don't tend to use iMessage or WhatsApp."

     

    either way, it seems increasingly obvious, to me, that the only people allowed cybersecurity and privacy are governments and those called terrorists.

  • Reply 39 of 200
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    Originally Posted by TheWhiteFalcon View Post

     

     

    Nope. Nice try, that's a lie. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-the-crazy-trump-muslim-database-story-got-started/article/2576891

     

    I don't like Trump at all, but the media lied on this one (as usual).




    No, they actually got it right the first time: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/21/donald-trump-says-he-absolutely-wants-a-database-of-syrian-refugees/

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    I don’t know of a single anti-immigrant candidate.

     


     

    Are you watching an election other than the US presidential one?

  • Reply 40 of 200
    mr omr o Posts: 1,046member

    Can the USA please stop selling weapons to regimes that violate human rights?!?

     

    You cannot simultaneously condemn and do business with corrupt regimes.

     

    iMessage is not a threat to our freedom, it just is this twisted business model of the arms industry.

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