First look: Apple's lightweight 3.6oz Smart Battery Case for iPhone 6s and iPhone 6

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  • Reply 81 of 88
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 31,507member
    melgross said:
    dasanman69 said:All ROI means is "return on investment." That's it. ROI can be negative too. And you can have a large, or small ROI. But you always have an ROI.
    Profits can be negative as well. 
    I don't understand why the quote has you saying what I said. That's odd. But I just don't understand why you said that Apple had to have an ROI on this to have a profit, when you now correctly state that profits themselves can be negative.
  • Reply 82 of 88
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 12,979member
    melgross said:
    melgross said:
    dasanman69 said:All ROI means is "return on investment." That's it. ROI can be negative too. And you can have a large, or small ROI. But you always have an ROI.
    Profits can be negative as well. 
    I don't understand why the quote has you saying what I said. That's odd. But I just don't understand why you said that Apple had to have an ROI on this to have a profit, when you now correctly state that profits themselves can be negative.
    I deleted some of it, and went too far. There's currently no way to cancel a comment so I couldn't go back and fix it. 
  • Reply 83 of 88
    jfc1138 said:

    There isn't. I'm being sarcastic only because every time someone makes a legitimate comment about the iPhone battery- they get attacked. Which is a bit sad, really.

    My iPhone is incredible but the battery isn't good enough. 

    It's my ONE complaint. One. Complaint. As in, NO other complaints. 

    I'm surrounded by non-techy iPhone owners. They all have the same complaint: battery life.

    Now, I could attack anyone who says this OR I could help push a great company to address it. As a shareholder, I'll take the latter, thanks.

    Great so you're the perfect source for a question I have: what spare power battery packs do you and the people you're surrounded with use to add that needed extra battery life?
    It's not on sale anymore (RAVpower 3200) as I bought it for $18. 
     
    http://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias=electronics&field-keywords=RAVPower+Portable+Charger+3200mAh+External+Battery

    Just search Amazon & sort by best rated & find the best price. You can't go wrong!
  • Reply 84 of 88
    sog35 said:
    berenz said:
    it's surely an admission that the battery on the 6 and 6S are still woefully inadequate.
    Come off it.

    You're right. It's surely a statement that the battery life is so great that Apple just wants it to be greater.

    It has nothing to do with people buying battery packs in increasing numbers. Or that battery chargers consistently rank in the best seller phone accessory sections on Amazon.

    Apple clearly wants to make just a few of these for the so few people who want them.



    Tell me another sub 5 inch phone that has significantly better battery life than the iPhone6?

    Its simple physics. Smaller phones have smaller batteries.

    Just because a car company gives you the option of Sport tires does not mean the stock tires are not good enough. The world is about choice.  Apple is just adding another choice for iPhone users.
    There isn't. I'm being sarcastic only because every time someone makes a legitimate comment about the iPhone battery- they get attacked. Which is a bit sad, really.

    My iPhone is incredible but the battery isn't good enough. 

    It's my ONE complaint. One. Complaint. As in, NO other complaints. 

    I'm surrounded by non-techy iPhone owners. They all have the same complaint: battery life.

    Now, I could attack anyone who says this OR I could help push a great company to address it. As a shareholder, I'll take the latter, thanks.

    They get attacked because they are in the minority.  I agree it's sad that people attack them, but "poor battery life" isn't a valid complaint overall.  Most people have no problem at all with the battery life.  It's a "power user" complaint and something that only bothers a small subset of iPhone users.  

    To be fair, Apple has also gone out of their way to accommodate the so-called "power users" with the iPhone 6s Plus which has far more battery life, size, and storage than most people actually need.  
    My views aren't "poor battery life." That would be a misrepresentation.

    I think it should be better. I don't care what other crappy cellphones are doing. It's ONE request. I don't know a regular user who says "Yeah, the battery is flawless. I don't want any improvement." 

    In fact, most polls back up wanting better battery life. Not the imaginary narrative that the battery is perfect.

    http://www.cnet.com/news/what-do-you-want-from-apples-iphone-6s-poll/
    http://dazeinfo.com/2015/06/26/apple-iphone-6s-10-features-apple-must-introduce-next/
    http://www.businessinsider.com/battery-life-still-a-major-concern-for-iphone-owners-2015-2
    http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/02/27/poll-better-iphone-battery-vs-thinness/
    http://pocketnow.com/2015/05/11/camera-vs-battery-poll

    I barely had to even try to find those. Many, many more.

  • Reply 85 of 88

    tmay said:
    I'm surrounded by non-techy iPhone owners. They all have the same complaint: battery life.
    And yet, others are surrounded by iPhone owners who don't have a complaint about battery life. After some nine generations of iPhone, I'm sure that Apple has collected enough actual data, starting with its own employees during product development in 2005, to define battery life for a pretty wide gamut of its users.  

    There's no doubt that longer battery life can be a benefit, but at the same time, there are tradeoffs. The market wants thin phones, and contrary to a noisy subset of smartphone buyer, most iPhone owners are quire satisfied with current battery life. This accessory gives those that need more, an option beyond third party products.


    People want better battery life. 

    http://www.cnet.com/news/what-do-you-want-from-apples-iphone-6s-poll/
    http://dazeinfo.com/2015/06/26/apple-iphone-6s-10-features-apple-must-introduce-next/
    http://www.businessinsider.com/battery-life-still-a-major-concern-for-iphone-owners-2015-2
    http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/02/27/poll-better-iphone-battery-vs-thinness/
    http://pocketnow.com/2015/05/11/camera-vs-battery-poll

    The iPhone is greatest phone. People just want it to be even better. Get over it. 
  • Reply 86 of 88
    rbrrbr Posts: 631member
    berenz said:
    I think I was just a little bit sick in my mouth. Apart from adding bulk and looking far from Apple's usual high-standards, it's surely an admission that the battery on the 6 and 6S are still woefully inadequate. I'd sacrifice having a thinner iPhone for 50% increase in battery - and even that wouldn't last me a full day at least a couple of times per week

    Nope its not. The battery lasts all day if you aren't some wanker who has to be on it all the damn time. Apple didn't design the iPhone to be practically attached to your face and most folks don't treat it like that. 

    If anything this is designed for those folks that can't put their phone away and want to cry and whine about how their phone only lasts 8 hours. Why shouldn't Apple make a bit more money off them. 
    There are users with a legit need for greater battery life/capacity...a lot more of them than you realize. Sadly, this thing is about as ugly as it gets and isn't ergonomic either. Even worse, the case appears to provide limited protection for the phone. There are cases that are designed to survive a 6' drop which have a hard shell exterior and a gel interior which provide this protection. 

    Ives' fixation on anorexic phones is absurd. Reducing the power demand of the device is good, but when does continuing to reduce the thickness of the device become pointless? The unused interior volume could be utilized to add battery.
  • Reply 87 of 88
    melgross said:
    berenz said:
    I think I was just a little bit sick in my mouth. Apart from adding bulk and looking far from Apple's usual high-standards, it's surely an admission that the battery on the 6 and 6S are still woefully inadequate. I'd sacrifice having a thinner iPhone for 50% increase in battery - and even that wouldn't last me a full day at least a couple of times per week

    Nope its not. The battery lasts all day if you aren't some wanker who has to be on it all the damn time. Apple didn't design the iPhone to be practically attached to your face and most folks don't treat it like that. 

    If anything this is designed for those folks that can't put their phone away and want to cry and whine about how their phone only lasts 8 hours. Why shouldn't Apple make a bit more money off them. 
    Apple gets knocked for creating this culture where everybody's got their face stuck looking at a phone all the time yet at the same time people bitch about battery life. Perhaps if people didn't spend 24/7 on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat etc. their phone would get decent battery life.
    The 6 and 6S have battery lives that are at the top range for phones with screens of that size. The 6+ and 6S+ have much better battery life, as do other phones with the larger screens. There's no point in complaining here. People, as a class, do seem to want thinner devices. And we're seeing fewer devices, particularly on the high end, from any manufacturer, with replaceable batteries. It seems that, despite the complaints from the geeks in tech sites, few people actually buy replaceable batteries.

    No matter what the battery life is, some people are always going to complain that they want more. There are two things that those peop,e can try.

    One is to contact the manufacturer and tell them that. If enough people do, maybe they'll listen.

    Two is to stop buying that manufacturers product. That will tell them something as well.
    I think you hit it on the head.  Everyone likes to spell doom & gloom for Apple when they do something they personally don't agree with.  Hello!  Apple is a multi billion dollar company, they do have a PR department & they do dish out quite a bit to R&D.  I'm pretty sure they are seeing trends in the market & pursuing them.  

    Best example I can think of is how many Apple fanatics on these forums blasted people for wanting a phone with a bigger screen & accused them of being in the minority.  Well, polling data is out & actually those of us (that's right, I'm not a fan of the bigger screen) who like the smaller form factor of the iPhone 5, 5c, & 5s are in the minority.  At the end of the day Apple is going to do what makes them money, they are a business after all.  People need to get their head out of the tech critic cloud & see the world for how it really is & not for how a bunch of narcissistic geek bloggers think it should be.

    On that note, Kuddos to AI, I often return to this site because in my opinion you are one of the more balanced & fair tech blogging sites out there.  Even being so obviously & unapologetically pro Apple I rarely feel I'm getting the rose colored review of Apple News.  
    allmypeople
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