Apple investor's shareholder proposal could force racial diversity among leadership

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  • Reply 41 of 79
    maxitmaxit Posts: 222member
    Who the hell cares about the gender, race or sexual orientation of Apple 's executives? I do care about their competence...
    lostkiwi
  • Reply 42 of 79
    Exactly. 'Positive discrimination' is racism in disguise. Not only that, but it actually helps to FUEL racism and make it worse.
    This is so far from true.  Such a bullshit ridiculous statement.  You need to take a logic class.  You also need to do some research on what racism actually is.  

    Advocating getting rid of all the black people in your community so it's more white? == racist.
    Advocating getting more black people in your community so it's more diverse?  == not racist.

    Denying black people jobs even though they are qualified?  == racist.
    Making sure that qualified black people get a shot at that job? == not racist.

    I could go on, and then you could drag up some bullshit affirmative action example from the middle of the last century, but nothing will really change your mind anyway.
    edited December 2015 dasanman69
  • Reply 43 of 79
    Arszy said:
    I'm an Apple shareholder with 1,934 shares. I also happen to be a white male who takes offense at the statement "a little bit too vanilla" .  
    Perhaps I am color-blind, but always thought that the color of vanilla was a pale yellow.....
  • Reply 44 of 79
    entropysentropys Posts: 4,166member
    nasserae said:
    sog35 said:

    A REAL CEO would never allow such an assine proposal even to make it this far.

    No way on earth this kind of crap would show up in Google, Amazon, or Tesla.  
     From http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-inc-may-face-diversity-fight-shareholder-calls-iphone-maker-too-vanilla-2245567

    If Apple remove the proposal from voting then they will be attacked by the media and possibly the SEC. I would say include it in the shareholders voting material and get it over with once and for all.

    No, it wouldn't get it over with once and for all.  Activists that run around looking for reasons to be offended follow Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals.
    HRC did her thesis on it.  Basically having the proposal come up in a shareholders' meeting where it will be defeated will result in escalation.
  • Reply 45 of 79
    Dismal. Daddy the shareholder should've taught junior a valuable lesson about hard work and overcoming obstacles. Instead, the idiot pandered to his clueless child's wishes. Bad parenting!
    Not every Daddy was around, nor was taught himself that lesson to able to pass it on. 
  • Reply 46 of 79
    I have over 5000 shares and I am interested in people who can get the job done.... don't get me wrong.. I am all for diversity, whether its color, race or gender, but, I am not interested in doing it to satisfy the teenage son of a minor stock holder.....
    lostkiwi
  • Reply 47 of 79
    Dismal. Daddy the shareholder should've taught junior a valuable lesson about hard work and overcoming obstacles. Instead, the idiot pandered to his clueless child's wishes. Bad parenting!
    Not every Daddy was around, nor was taught himself that lesson to able to pass it on. 
    Common sense also plays a part here.
  • Reply 48 of 79
    This is the very definition of racism.  Preferring one individual over another based upon race, rather than upon their qualifications.

    Brings my stomach up.  
    lostkiwiSpamSandwichtallest skil
  • Reply 49 of 79
    Arszy said:
    I'm an Apple shareholder with 1,934 shares. I also happen to be a white male who takes offense at the statement "a little bit too vanilla" .  
    Perhaps I am color-blind, but always thought that the color of vanilla was a pale yellow.....
    So he's racist against Chinese then?   ;)
  • Reply 50 of 79
    If you were having a life or death medical emergency (or even a run of the mill routine check-up) for you or your loved one, wouldn't you want the care given from the most qualified person?

    Hiring based on anything other than merit makes me sad.
  • Reply 51 of 79
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Reasonable proposal, reasonable response, giving reasonable voice to a reasonable issue.

    Good news all round. 
  • Reply 52 of 79
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    sog35 said:
    So this is Tim Cook's Apple.

    Wasting TIME and RESOURCES on silly diversity CRAP, instead of articulating the VISION of the company.  This is an absolute FAILURE by Cook.  Instead of voting for diversity I want to vote to FIRE COOK ONCE AND FOR ALL.

    Guy is a waste of money. Paying him HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS and he has ZERO idea how to defend the stock price.  FIRE HIS ASS IMMEDIATELY.
    Tim Cook has no control of issues raised by shareholders.
    edited January 2016
  • Reply 53 of 79
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Not every Daddy was around, nor was taught himself that lesson to able to pass it on. 
    Common sense also plays a part here.
    Which we all know is not so common. 
  • Reply 54 of 79
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    techlover said:
    If you were having a life or death medical emergency (or even a run of the mill routine check-up) for you or your loved one, wouldn't you want the care given from the most qualified person?

    Hiring based on anything other than merit makes me sad.
    Then you should be crying buckets because it went on for centuries, and happens still. 
  • Reply 55 of 79
    techlover said:
    If you were having a life or death medical emergency (or even a run of the mill routine check-up) for you or your loved one, wouldn't you want the care given from the most qualified person?

    Hiring based on anything other than merit makes me sad.
    Then you should be crying buckets because it went on for centuries, and happens still. 
     :'(  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
  • Reply 56 of 79
    bluefire1bluefire1 Posts: 1,302member
    JFK surrounded himself with the best and the brightest. Tim Cook should continue to do so as well, regardless of skin color, ethnicity or gender.
  • Reply 57 of 79
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    sog35 said:
    bluefire1 said:
    JFK surrounded himself with the best and the brightest. Tim Cook should continue to do so as well, regardless of skin color, ethnicity or gender.
    That worked out well for JFK
    Are you suggesting that JFK's approach of surrounding himself with the best and the brightest contributed to his assassination and that such an approach might lead to the same result for Tim Cook?

    I doubt it.
  • Reply 58 of 79
    jblongzjblongz Posts: 167member
    Truth is, there are people from every race and culture who are qualified for high-profile tech positions.  So the golden questions is: "Why isn't Apple's leadership already diversified?"
  • Reply 59 of 79
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    Arszy said:
    I'm an Apple shareholder with 1,934 shares. I also happen to be a white male who takes offense at the statement "a little bit too vanilla" .  
    Perhaps I am color-blind, but always thought that the color of vanilla was a pale yellow.....
    Kind of depends what you mean by vanilla ...   Vanilla ice-cream is a kind of pale yellow I guess.   ;)
  • Reply 60 of 79
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member

    This is the very definition of racism.  Preferring one individual over another based upon race, rather than upon their qualifications.

    Brings my stomach up.  
    You correct if it were a Utopian world.  Bias correction however, is often required in most things, be it a professional quality lens or a choice made by mere mortals and is not necessarily a bad thing if done carefully.
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