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arty50 · February 12, 2002 4:12PM

Aha! Things become clearer. So now the question is: iApp or iDevice?

[quote]"Aye, Apple are working on this with one of the companies which was involved in the keynote. "

MPEG4 is being looked at as the format for having video phones that arent incredibly poor like those currently availible

Yeah and if you go to <a href="http://www.iphone.org/"; target="_blank">http://www.iphone.org/</a>; guess where you go to?<hr></blockquote>

Credit goes to a couple of posters on the following thread:

<a href="http://www.macnn.com/news.php?id=12445&startNumber=10#comments"; target="_blank">http://www.macnn.com/news.php?id=12445&startNumber=10#comments</a>;

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ghost_user_name · February 12, 2002 4:19PM

Guess what happens when you go here?

<a href="http://www.newton.com"; target="_blank">http://www.newton.com</a>;

hmurchison · February 12, 2002 4:25PM

Aaaaaaaack! When won't people realize...telephony apps don't sell. All people people want is to be able to make a connection with a phone for cheap. I'd venture that most people don't give a damn about the other party seeing them enough to foot the bill for Video Phones.

arty50 · February 12, 2002 6:56PM

By itself, the fact that iphone.org links to apple.com is absolutely meaningless. It's been the topic of conversation on FH many times before. But thanks to Quicktime Live we finally have an idea what this is all about. It's now been publicly stated that Apple is working with a developer to implement video phone technology. But how exactly? I wasn't there so I don't know. But will the iPhone be a digital device or an yet another free iApp? So the question is not "Is it coming?", but rather "How?" That's the key.

hmurchison has a great point in that most people won't want to spend the money on a fancy phone. But if this is an iApp, then one could easily and cheaply use their Mac as a video phone.

quarem · February 12, 2002 7:01PM

Rather then an iPhone device I would rather have some powerful video phone software built into Mac OS X. How cool would it be if you could dial a friend's computer and have a video phone call between your Mac's. Or you could interface with the regular phone network and make a voice call. Cool, but I can't see it happening for a long time.

davegee · February 12, 2002 7:13PM

It seems as tho some people don't know their Apple Rumors 101... That link is very old and has been talked about pre i**** v1 AND v2. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

Dave

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arty50 · February 12, 2002 7:22PM

[quote]Originally posted by DaveGee:

It seems as tho some people don't know their Apple Rumors 101... That link is very old and has been talked about pre i**** v1 AND v2. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <hr></blockquote>

This is frustrating. Was I not clear, or do people just not bother to read? We have NEW information about said rumor.

arty50 · February 12, 2002 7:24PM

[quote]Originally posted by Quarem:

Rather then an iPhone device I would rather have some powerful video phone software built into Mac OS X. How cool would it be if you could dial a friend's computer and have a video phone call between your Mac's. Or you could interface with the regular phone network and make a voice call. Cool, but I can't see it happening for a long time.<hr></blockquote>

But will MPEG-4 allow this to come sooner than we thought? The new standard is small, high quality, and best of all encoding/decoding is Altivec enabled. Makes you think...

davegee · February 12, 2002 7:29PM

[quote]Originally posted by Arty50:

This is frustrating. Was I not clear, or do people just not bother to read? We have NEW information about said rumor.<hr></blockquote>

Hmmm kinda like...

Now here's something that'll really curl your toes... Some genetics dude is now on the Apple board of directors and now click here... <a href="http://www.mammals.org/"; target="_blank">http://www.mammals.org/</a>;

Hmmm makes you wonder don't it? Exactly what has Steve and company have been working on behind locked doors?

Sorry just because MPEG4 was shown to work over a phone and a WinCE device doesn't mean we need to bring out that old iphone url any more than having a genetics person on the Apple BoD means we should bring out mammals.org. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

Dave

arty50 · February 12, 2002 7:49PM

Sometimes I just wish the world would get a clue. Your analogy is severely faulted. Did said geneticist/board member say, "Hey we're developing this iApp that will give you super hearing and the ability to fly!"?

[quote]Post from MacNN article comments:

Hmmm... just thinking out loud here. The following thought may well be technologically naive, but here it is:

Could streaming MP3 or QT audio be used as the basis of a higher quality internet phone? I'm thinking that enhancing the telephonic experience would be the next great conquest in the digital hub strategy.

Reply:

Aye, Apple are working on this with one of the companies which was involved in the keynote.

MPEG4 is being looked at as the format for having video phones that arent incredibly poor like those currently availible.<hr></blockquote>

I've already mentioned that the site (iphone.org) alone is meaningless. As with mammals.org, newton.com, getaclue.duh...

But the info above tells us of a concrete product in the near future that will provide consumers with video telephony.

Please read, think, and then stay on topic.

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aries 1b · February 12, 2002 7:56PM

There were many scathing replies to the possibility of 'screen sharing' between a computer and the mythical iPad, a rumor with legs if any has.

I think that this technology is going to change the world. There's only pent up demand from the 1950's for people to have video phones.

F'rinstance, I live in Indianapolis with Wife and Kids (1,2,3). My folks live in Maine, so we don't get to see each other very much. It would be awesome for my kids to communicate face-to-face with their grandparents, show them where one has lost a tooth, *see* my son learning to talk, there's no end of it, no end at all.

This will be huge; mark my words.

Aries 1B

serrano · February 12, 2002 8:06PM

videophone? nah. how bout apple creating some quality video confrencing software? this is an area where wintel one ups us, and if apple is serious about competeing in business it will nee its own solution... but how serious are they about business? it looks like they're trying to push into 3d, but i'd hardly call that videoconfrencing market... i don't see apples market for videoconfrencing but i still find it infinitly more plausible than a video phone <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

aries 1b · February 12, 2002 8:32PM

I agree about the video conferencing, but consider iPhoto and its target market: the consumer. I think that consumers will eat up the ability to videophone friends and family. Maybe it's my perspective (43 years old) as well as my unfullfilled science-fiction dreams <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> , but I'd like to see it.

I also think that Phil Schiller's demonstration takes us a step closer to i****v1 and i****v2.

"Kormac 75/76/77 might just be right" :cool:

(Now get out your stop watch and time it: how long will it take Matsu to get in here urging us to roast Kormac at the stake and/or to nail his foreskin to the nearest cross?) <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

Aries 1B

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wrong robot · February 12, 2002 9:31PM

iPhone plus mpeg-4, plus gigawire....could be interesting....I can't think of the BEST way to use these three things, but they all seem to relate.

preston · February 12, 2002 9:34PM

When you think about it,

The new iMac looks alot like videophone prototypes ive seem from years ago

--Pres

urbnite · February 14, 2002 3:12PM

[quote]Originally posted by Wrong Robot:

iPhone plus mpeg-4, plus gigawire....could be interesting....I can't think of the BEST way to use these three things, but they all seem to relate.<hr></blockquote>

And, do you know exactly what Gigawire is?

macgregor · February 14, 2002 9:23PM

Here is what Ericsson can bring to the table, <a href="http://www.electricpocket.com/"; target="_blank">http://www.electricpocket.com/</a>; and I agree with someone above that this doesn't need to be just something in a palm form. It can be and instant video message/conference sitting on the dock, one click away!

Instant video messaging would be very popular (consumer)and it wouldn't have to be real-time.

Video conferencing (enterprise) does have to be real-time, but you would have to be on a good connection and not on a beach, like in the commercials.

Think iApps not just iDevices. iPhone might just be like iTunes with a little clip on camera to the FW port.

ghost_user_name · February 14, 2002 9:30PM

iPhone would be cool, so would video-confrecing with the other disco 2. You know how chiil it'd be to see whatchu talkin 2? You could see emotions and loved ones too. Steve probably like this idea a rightly so, i would say its almost enough to make me sell my iMac Snow.

rollerbovine · February 17, 2002 4:04AM

Well it won't be hand held unless you want video of my ear...

macsrock · February 17, 2002 11:51AM

guess where this leads:<a href="http://www.ipad.com"; target="_blank">iPad.com</a>

macgregor · February 17, 2002 5:55PM

[quote]Originally posted by RollerBovine:

Well it won't be hand held unless you want video of my ear...<hr></blockquote>

That is the point, it doesn't have to be handheld! There is plenty of reason to transfer real-time video to a desktop now. There wasn't a few years ago. I've used SeeYouSeeMe-type stuff and its too complicated, etc. But if you could have internet telephony and video in a simple iApp sitting on the desktop, that would be full of digital hubbiness.

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