Black Lives Matter activists say FBI fight to break iPhone encryption threatens civil liberties

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  • Reply 21 of 39
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    apple ][ said:
    Have we heard back from the KKK yet, and gotten their take on this whole encryption matter?

    Do BLM supporters care about civil liberties all of a sudden? What about the marine veteran who was viciously attacked, assaulted and robbed by black lies matter supporters recently? What about his civil liberties? And just for the record, I don't support the KKK and I don't support Black Lies Matter either. Two different sides of the same coin. They're both trash.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/23/arrest-made-of-black-lives-matter-thugs-who-robbed-and-beat-marine-veteran/

    And the one person mentioned in the article (Shaun King) seems to be a male Rachel Dolezal, in other words, a fake black person.


    There's a huge history regarding surveillance of black activists.  Every heard of MLK and the FBI?

    Also, you forget the whole GOP strategy regarding minorities - The Southern Strategy:


    And nowadays:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

    That's why we now have Trump.
    Because Obama is so fantastic, right? Oh, wait...

    https://news.vice.com/article/it-took-a-foia-lawsuit-to-uncover-how-the-obama-administration-killed-foia-reform
    tallest skil
  • Reply 22 of 39
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    fs said:
    fire comey call it a day. he not fit to run the fbi.
    Fire Comey's negligent boss.
    Cheney? I don't think he can be fired.
  • Reply 23 of 39
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    flaneur said:
    Fire Comey's negligent boss.
    Cheney? I don't think he can be fired.
    Is Dick Cheney the sitting president? News to me.
  • Reply 24 of 39
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member

    flaneur said:
    Cheney? I don't think he can be fired.
    Is Dick Cheney the sitting president? News to me.
    Common sense. As he was the wire-puller during the Bush administration, so he may be now. Or he may have his own bosses.

    In any case, since JFK, one might reasonably believe that no president has had the last word on realpolitik or geopolitics.
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 25 of 39
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    apple ][ said:
    Have we heard back from the KKK yet, and gotten their take on this whole encryption matter?

    Do BLM supporters care about civil liberties all of a sudden? What about the marine veteran who was viciously attacked, assaulted and robbed by black lies matter supporters recently? What about his civil liberties? And just for the record, I don't support the KKK and I don't support Black Lies Matter either. Two different sides of the same coin. They're both trash.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/23/arrest-made-of-black-lives-matter-thugs-who-robbed-and-beat-marine-veteran/

    And the one person mentioned in the article (Shaun King) seems to be a male Rachel Dolezal, in other words, a fake black person.


    There's a huge history regarding surveillance of black activists.  Every heard of MLK and the FBI?

    Also, you forget the whole GOP strategy regarding minorities - The Southern Strategy:


    And nowadays:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

    That's why we now have Trump.
    Thanks for putting things in a realistic perspective.
    ronn
  • Reply 26 of 39
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    flaneur said:

    Common sense. As he was the wire-puller during the Bush administration, so he may be now. Or he may have his own bosses.

    In any case, since JFK, one might reasonably believe that no president has had the last word on realpolitik or geopolitics.
    That's Alex Jones crazy talk.
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 27 of 39
    stevehsteveh Posts: 480member
    crowley said:
    Black lives matter.  All lives matter too, but saying that as if its a relevant point is like shouting that testicular cancer matters too at a breast cancer awareness event.  Total dick move.
    Not so much when BLM enthusiasts are seen either shouting down anyone who points out that all lives should matter, or going so far as to assault, verbally and otherwise, anyone who advocates opening the scope of ...Lives Matter.messagepad2100 said:
    apple ][ said:
    Have we heard back from the KKK yet, and gotten their take on this whole encryption matter?

    Do BLM supporters care about civil liberties all of a sudden? What about the marine veteran who was viciously attacked, assaulted and robbed by black lies matter supporters recently? What about his civil liberties? And just for the record, I don't support the KKK and I don't support Black Lies Matter either. Two different sides of the same coin. They're both trash.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/23/arrest-made-of-black-lives-matter-thugs-who-robbed-and-beat-marine-veteran/

    And the one person mentioned in the article (Shaun King) seems to be a male Rachel Dolezal, in other words, a fake black person.


    There's a huge history regarding surveillance of black activists.  Every heard of MLK and the FBI?

    Also, you forget the whole GOP strategy regarding minorities - The Southern Strategy:


    And nowadays:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

    That's why we now have Trump.

  • Reply 28 of 39
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    But currently.  Black Lives Don't Matter, as evidenced by policing and politics.
    Total bullshit. All stats prove otherwise.
    There's a huge history regarding surveillance of black activists.  Every heard of MLK and the FBI?
    Ever heard of communism? I won’t even dignify the rest.
  • Reply 29 of 39
    krionikrioni Posts: 11member
    Folks, before you decide to say something horrible, please read why "all lives matter" is an asshole response to "Black Lives Matter." http://boingboing.net/2015/07/21/why-all-lives-matter-inste.html
  • Reply 30 of 39
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    krioni said:
    Folks, before you decide to say something horrible, please read why "all lives matter" is an asshole response to "Black Lives Matter.”
    Nah, all lives matter. BLM was predicated on lies. You’re not more important than anyone else.
    icoco3SpamSandwich
  • Reply 31 of 39
    There's a huge history regarding surveillance of black activists.  Every heard of MLK and the FBI?

    Also, you forget the whole GOP strategy regarding minorities - The Southern Strategy:


    And nowadays:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

    That's why we now have Trump.
    Because Obama is so fantastic, right? Oh, wait...

    https://news.vice.com/article/it-took-a-foia-lawsuit-to-uncover-how-the-obama-administration-killed-foia-reform
    Deflect.  Deflect.  Deflect.


    You get paid every time you guys bring up Obama.  Stay on topic.
  • Reply 32 of 39

    But currently.  Black Lives Don't Matter, as evidenced by policing and politics.
    Total bullshit. All stats prove otherwise.
    Ever heard of communism? I won’t even dignify the rest.
    Of course you won't "dignify."

    There is a history.  You can't just scream "Communism" and run away.  

    https://www.aclu.org/more-about-fbi-spying

    Better to hide your head in the sand whenever inconvenient truths show up.  



  • Reply 33 of 39
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    flaneur said:
    Common sense. As he was the wire-puller during the Bush administration, so he may be now. Or he may have his own bosses.

    In any case, since JFK, one might reasonably believe that no president has had the last word on realpolitik or geopolitics.
    That's Alex Jones crazy talk.
    Alex Jones is a child. And you still haven't confronted your naiveté. You need to get out in the street more, take some acid, contemplate the cases of JFK, MLK, RFK, Mossedegh, Allende many others. Or do you believe your government has become angelic? Who wrote the yellow cake letter?

    Meanwhile, here's a New Yorker cartoon for you:
  • Reply 34 of 39
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    There is a history.
    Of communism.
    You can't just scream "Communism" and run away.  
    What would you like to know?
    Better to hide your head in the sand whenever inconvenient truths show up.
    Sorry, Al, but MLKJ was funded by commies. He was also an adulterous woman beater who taught anti-Christian heresies, but that’s not as relevant.
  • Reply 35 of 39
    mytdavemytdave Posts: 447member
    Oh, great. Nice to know the race baiting grievance industry is on Apple's side of this issue.
    tallest skil
  • Reply 36 of 39
    ibanksibanks Posts: 10member
    I totally abhor the police brutality we have recently seen evidenced upon black folks both innocent and possibly guilty. Much of the violence, injury and death has been uncalled for based on videos I've seen. 

    But I wish the BLM movement would transition their story to an All Lives Matter message. 

    While I wasn't pleased with their appearance in front of the Apple Store in NY when Apple supporters came out against the FBI, thinking then that BLM was just trying to co-opt a photo opportunity, I'm glad that they filed their amicus brief in support of Apple. 
  • Reply 37 of 39
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    No, some are just less important, like those of black men. 
    Ah, the old marxist dialectic! “No one is more important, some are just less!”
    That's more or less the gist of it.  :D
  • Reply 38 of 39
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    They also think Michael Brown was an angel who could do no wrong so...
    Show us where they said that. 
  • Reply 39 of 39
    rob53rob53 Posts: 3,251member
    fs said:
    fire comey call it a day. he not fit to run the fbi.
    Fire Comey's negligent boss.
    Here we go again. Time to read up on Comey's history.

    He was the United States Deputy Attorney General, serving in President George W. Bush's administration. As Deputy Attorney General, Comey was the second-highest-ranking official in the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) and ran the day-to-day operations of the Department, serving in that office from December 2003 through August 2005. He was U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York prior to becoming Deputy Attorney General.

    Comey is a registered Republican who donated to U.S. Senator John McCain’s campaign in the 2008 presidential election and to Governor Mitt Romney’s campaign in 2012 presidential election.

    He and his agency were, however, criticized for their request at Apple to install a "back door" for U.S. surveillance agencies to use. Former NSA and CIA director Michael Hayden stated: "Jim would like a back door available to American law enforcement in all devices globally. And, frankly, I think on balance that actually harms American safety and security, even though it might make Jim's job a bit easier in some specific circumstances."

    Looks like Obama made a mistake in late 2013 appointing him. I'd have to look back to see his justification but I remember news releases saying Obama was trying to be fair with his appointees and not just putting in Democrats instead of the person he (and others) felt was the most qualified. The problem I see is that most of Washington DC feels the same way as Comey so blaming just Obama isn't putting the fault with all the others.

    ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Comey
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