Little piece of black electrical tape on cameras is standard procedure in studios.
Microphone is difficult to fully disable without monkeying/destroying internals. You can reroute it System Prefs to the line input, and even plug a dummy cable in, but in a dystopian future of OS backdoors, would be hard to completely neutralize internal mics.
There's one security-conscious developer out there that has their phone's microphones removed each time they upgrade. They then plug in a headset (cable etc) to make calls.
With *Hey Siri*, the microphone is always on in order to capture the command. Soon, Siri will be on Macs as well. So, for the sake of avoiding Big Brother, I hope the FBI/Government bites the dust. This is a binary case here. Either *yes* or *no*.
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Following Bill Gates dubious stance in the FBI case, I have deleted my Skype account yesterday. It was quite a convoluted process as someone from Microsoft has got to delete your account for you.
Here's a thought , if Apple were forced to creat back doors and allow mike and cameras to be switched on would this not create a market for older versions of iOS in fact I will probably keep my older iPhone 6 for longer and simply swap the SIM card from a newer phone into it as needed! I will never upgrade it to a compromised version of iOS. I imagine a terrorist would do the same? Is it possible to keep a backup of older os on ones computer
I'm disgusted by the fear-mongering on both sides of this argument. I really need to stop reading the comments on these FBI vs Apple articles. Doing so gives me heartburn!
For example - this article implies that *IF* the government is successful here, then one day they *may* have the ability to secretly turn on your camera and microphone. That's a true statement - but it's misleading in that it implies that if Apple wins this fight, it protects us from the FBI directly accessing our cameras in the future.
In reality, they are not really related at all. The FBI will go after the camera and microphone access in the future regardless of what happens here. Win or lose in this particular case doesn't mean much as far as the future is concerned. This is one of the first battles in what will be a very long war. A loss will hardly slow down the FBI. They'll be back - again and again - trying different angles - trying the same angles in different courts. Other countries will definitely join in making demands of their own. Settle in folks. This privacy and security issue is one that will be here for a very, VERY long time.
The use of the writs thing MAKES THEM RELATED, if Apple can be made to work for the government for one thing, it can be made for everything. That's the overreach that this use implies.
If they use other legal means than this; it would be more constrained, but every precedent has implications; they're just less clear in "non writs" cases.
This is how you get ahead of the problem and simply stated, Apple must get ahead of this problem or it risks their global sales as no problem before.
I also hope Tim and Apple have contingency plans in place should they lose this case. I'm also aware of legislation making its way which FORBIDS companies from disobeying FBI requests, sponsored by that traitor Diane Feinstein, among others.
How does this translate into lost sales for Apple? The fallout and precedents created by any legislation that comes out of this will be equally applicable to ALL manufacturers of phones sold for use in the USA. It simply levels the playing field. Right now Apple is widely thought to have the best security - but people don't choose the iPHone exclusively because of the security. It's just one factor out of many that play into a purchasing decision. There are many negatives that will come to pass if the FBI is successful - but I don't see how drastically lower iPhone sales would be one of them.
Because Apple's brand will be tarnished because they will be viewed as the lap dog of the FBI. This capability could also make other countries like China restrict iPhone sales for fear of spying. Remember Apple had to prove the phone was secure against this for them or give them their code.
This is how you get ahead of the problem and simply stated, Apple must get ahead of this problem or it risks their global sales as no problem before.
I also hope Tim and Apple have contingency plans in place should they lose this case. I'm also aware of legislation making its way which FORBIDS companies from disobeying FBI requests, sponsored by that traitor Diane Feinstein, among others.
How does this translate into lost sales for Apple? The fallout and precedents created by any legislation that comes out of this will be equally applicable to ALL manufacturers of phones sold for use in the USA.
I'm surprised that more notice isn't taken of the laws being considered in other countries over compliance with legal demands for user data from our mobile devices. Even if Apple blunts the FBI's efforts for now they won't be able to do the same when China comes calling. In fact Apple is already meeting Chinese requirements for source code examination and local China-accessible user data storage, reportedly being the first Western tech to do so last year, and new rules are being formulated this year by the Chinese. In that country they either comply or leave the market, lawyers and legal filings won't help.
In another recent example Brazil jailed (and has since released) a Facebook exec for not complying with a law enforcement demand for encrypted WhatsApp messages in a drug investigation. Then there's France considering a law to compel companies like Apple, Google or Microsoft to produce even encrypted user data if lawfully requested or face arrest of it's executives along with substantial fines. Great Britain is working on laws that require companies to offer access to encrypted communications and data or face legal ramifications. Russia too is another country demanding that they have access to user data if companies such as Apple want on their playground, and the list goes on.
It is starting to really piss me off now, how many of you naive people are unable to understand that they are not stupid. They know exactly wtf they are doing. They are not a benevolent entity with your safety and best interest in mind.
I'm disgusted by the fear-mongering on both sides of this argument. I really need to stop reading the comments on these FBI vs Apple articles. Doing so gives me heartburn!
For example - this article implies that *IF* the government is successful here, then one day they *may* have the ability to secretly turn on your camera and microphone. That's a true statement - but it's misleading in that it implies that if Apple wins this fight, it protects us from the FBI directly accessing our cameras in the future.
In reality, they are not really related at all. The FBI will go after the camera and microphone access in the future regardless of what happens here. Win or lose in this particular case doesn't mean much as far as the future is concerned. This is one of the first battles in what will be a very long war. A loss will hardly slow down the FBI. They'll be back - again and again - trying different angles - trying the same angles in different courts. Other countries will definitely join in making demands of their own. Settle in folks. This privacy and security issue is one that will be here for a very, VERY long time.
They're related. If the FBI can force a private company to code a backdoor, they will force a private company to enable snooping technologies. If Apple wins, you damn sure it'll design a even more secure OS to stop any and all hack attempts.
seems like it's a war of hypotheticals without either side presenting anything concrete around why it should or shouldn't be done..."this could prevent another attack", "the FBI can listen in on my calls". typical government and corporate garbage...scare the regular people in to picking sides and fighting with each other while nothing actually gets done.
Of course, the Government could one day seize Apple and all of its assets, but that isn't likely either. This article is all about an imaginary horrible.
NSA can target phones using malware that enables them to switch on phones that are off, turn on mics and cameras. NSA programs are dreamy smurf, nosey smurf, and dropoutjeep.
Yes they could force and shoot their own foot. How about Apple moves operations to different place? Would you lose control if they actually started operations from Ireland? That would be interesting considering they provide those devices to US military and I bet nobody wants backdoors to hack miltary equipment.
FBI seems to act in a little bit odd fashion lately. I understand counter - terrorism, but there could be other ways.
Make that precend... the other life precedents would come next and you cannot prevent them when jurisdiction has its limits and does not cross country boundaries. Corporations do cross country boundaries.
This is how you get ahead of the problem and simply stated, Apple must get ahead of this problem or it risks their global sales as no problem before.
I also hope Tim and Apple have contingency plans in place should they lose this case. I'm also aware of legislation making its way which FORBIDS companies from disobeying FBI requests, sponsored by that traitor Diane Feinstein, among others.
Think of Apple as international company that does not need to run operations from the USA. The law forbing anything is only within US jurisdiction and may not be enforeced elswhere. DO you want to lose biggest technological company in the world? Some will be happy and welcome Apple in their country. As we know Irleland is already open (and it did hosted IBM for years). That would also solve suspicions of tax evasion.
Someone wants to wake up with hand in potty full of...
And yes they can activate even today. What they cannot do remotely is take scotch tape from my devices and I already do this when I need (I do not trust buggy software sometimes and I do have privacy at home). Any legislation to prohibit me doing this?
Yes they could force and shoot their own foot. How about Apple moves operations to different place? Would you lose control if they actually started operations from Ireland? That would be interesting considering they provide those devices to US military and I bet nobody wants backdoors to hack miltary equipment.
FBI seems to act in a little bit odd fashion lately. I understand counter - terrorism, but there could be other ways.
Make that precend... the other life precedents would come next and you cannot prevent them when jurisdiction has its limits and does not cross country boundaries. Corporations do cross country boundaries.
Very old school. FBI is now being run by a lawyer and all he knows is to get his way in a legal framework instead of building FBi's capability to gather information by intelligence methods. Comey thinks that once he has a warrant, then he is entitled to get the information easily in a usable form. Apparently the FBI is nothing more than a police department.
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Following Bill Gates dubious stance in the FBI case, I have deleted my Skype account yesterday. It was quite a convoluted process as someone from Microsoft has got to delete your account for you.
That's the overreach that this use implies.
If they use other legal means than this; it would be more constrained, but every precedent has implications; they're just less clear in "non writs" cases.
In another recent example Brazil jailed (and has since released) a Facebook exec for not complying with a law enforcement demand for encrypted WhatsApp messages in a drug investigation. Then there's France considering a law to compel companies like Apple, Google or Microsoft to produce even encrypted user data if lawfully requested or face arrest of it's executives along with substantial fines. Great Britain is working on laws that require companies to offer access to encrypted communications and data or face legal ramifications. Russia too is another country demanding that they have access to user data if companies such as Apple want on their playground, and the list goes on.
You just don't like it because its Eddie Cue speaking...we all know in every forum you don't like him. Let it go already!