California Assembly considers bill to mandate encryption backdoors

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  • Reply 21 of 72
    It is time to ask this question: Who the hell do these elected officials work for? It is not the people who elected them and it is not the companies who fund their campaigns, so who is it? These are not smart people. To get them to all come up with the same idea that to "protect" us they need to see inside our smartphones, you would need to explain it in a way that a person with a basic high school education can understand and you would need some kind of leverage on them which would cause them to risk future donations. "Terrorists bad" or "think of the children" won't cut it when you are proposing legislation to harm all the major tech companies in the state. The only thing that would work is to threaten to leak damaging secrets, possibly criminal acts, about the elected officials. Now who would have access to such information and how would they get it?
    fracrazorpit
  • Reply 22 of 72
    ibillibill Posts: 400member
    These politicians are truly clueless. It's no wonder our country is in such horrible shape.
  • Reply 23 of 72
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member
    Sounds like someone wants a higher appointment. Sounds like someone wants to be brought into the inner circle. Nice try Feinstein.
  • Reply 24 of 72
    Ah, California. On the verge of bankruptcy for almost 10 years - part of the reason is because of moronic politicians like Jim Cooper that don't know anything about what they are doing.

    If you are dumb enough to side with this bill, then remove the password from your phone right now. If you're not willing to do that, then you're a hypocrite.
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 25 of 72
    Apple is a major employer in CA. They could decide to up sticks and move their HQ and their employees to another state or even another country.
    But they won't.
    It just seems that these Politicians (mostly lawyers) are just after a few quick headlines. It is election year ain't it?


  • Reply 26 of 72
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member
    ibill said:
    These politicians are truly clueless. It's no wonder our country is in such horrible shape.
    They are not cluesless. The only people who are clueless are the naive twats that read something like this and think, "Wow these people must be dumb." No, they are not dumb. They know exactly what they're doing. People are just too cowardly to admit that these people are evil and need to be stopped. It doesn't help you sleep at night to think that government is completely out of your hands, long ago co-opted by legitimately evil people, who have nothing but your worst interests in mind.
    razorpit
  • Reply 27 of 72
    peteopeteo Posts: 402member
    All you have to do is show how easy it would be to spy on the Senators themselves using smartphones.

    Reminds me when a bipartisan group made sure the Airlines were still running during a government shutdown.



    If it's in their personal interest, they sure get their act together.
    Actually they have already been spied on: http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-spy-net-on-israel-snares-congress-1451425210
  • Reply 28 of 72
    Time to move to Texas. Many IT companies already did it. I might join myself... from NYC area. Dallas, Plano, Austin.. they do not have foolish laws. There are reasons why recent migrations are to Texas from California, New York and some other places. There is also reaon why Toyota moved its all operations from California. Perhaps Sillicon Valley should die one day.
  • Reply 29 of 72
    They're all Democrats, of course, and all are of the belief that government would never, ever, ever misuse private information. Unless the person of interest is a political opponent, particularly a Rethuglican, in which case it's all groovy.
  • Reply 30 of 72
    For the record of legislation fools. As IT person I can encript my communications myself today even with foreign developed algorithms that NSA might have problem with it. That does not need to be part of iPhone. You could unlock and see garbled content only. Would I do that? No. Would some terrorist do this? Yes... just like any intelligence agency is capable of this. It really does not take much work and it cannot be considered crime. Simple as that. So what's your point of this legislation? Destroy technology company reputation?
  • Reply 31 of 72
    alandailalandail Posts: 755member
    Politicians are trying to kill eCommerce.  Who's going to put their credit card information online when the day comes every system involved in the transaction is legally required to have a backdoor?
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 32 of 72
    stskstsk Posts: 22member
    Sadly, it's time for every single tech company to follow Halliburton's lead and move their HQ's and legal addresses offshore, and post a note explaining that they don't want to be above the law - they want to be beside it. Feinstein in one of the idiots who MAKE the laws so demanding fealty is part of her package. Fuck her and the local tools by moving their tax base out of town.
    razorpit
  • Reply 33 of 72
    icoco3icoco3 Posts: 1,474member
    razormaid said:
    There's a quick way to stop this bill... Apple should announce the iPhone will not be sold in California Apple stores and available ONLY by the Internet. The phones will be sold from Arizona only!  That should piss off enough people to start protests from the public. Have giant banners made and slap them on those pretty glass doors at each store nice and big:

    STARTTING JAN 2017 IPHONES WILL NOT BE SOLD IN CALIFORNIA - CONTACT YOUR ASSEMBY PERSON NOW!

    Common sense is loosing to stupid in this case. So hit California where they can truly appreciate it ... In their wallet!
    Just an announcement that the new headquarters is being dismantled and moved to a State that understands the rights of its citizens.
  • Reply 34 of 72
    jdgazjdgaz Posts: 404member
    Feinstein is part of the reason I now live in AZ. But then again our top legal beagle won't buy any more iPhones for his staff. He wants to be hacked and have his cases compromised. Such idiots on both sides of the aisle.
    theunfetteredmind
  • Reply 35 of 72
    fracfrac Posts: 480member
    It's about time to say it...Follow the Money!
    Just who is sponsoring this buffoonery? Why are all their stated reasons just cut 'n paste versions of the same thing? 
    The argument amongst the opponents of the FBI/DOJ/government have explored all the facets of the case - good, bad and problematical. The status quo?...they're stuck in repetition mode and haven't even tried to allay public fears, address constitutional concerns...nothing.
    On Fortune, they're saying that Feinstein is naming this the Freedom Bill  :'(
    pscooter63
  • Reply 36 of 72
    lymflymf Posts: 65member
    Meanwhile tobacco killed millions of people but only needs to have a big sticker on the box and a higher tax rate...
  • Reply 37 of 72
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    They're all Democrats, of course, and all are of the belief that government would never, ever, ever misuse private information. Unless the person of interest is a political opponent, particularly a Rethuglican, in which case it's all groovy.
    Two Democrats, two Republicans.
    ration al
  • Reply 38 of 72
    icoco3icoco3 Posts: 1,474member
    frac said:
    ...
    On Fortune, they're saying that Feinstein is naming this the Freedom Bill  :'(
    Freedom to spy on the public?

    How they vote is going to come up again this fall for those who are up for re-election.  That includes all of the House.  Remind them of that when you contact your representatives.
  • Reply 39 of 72
    alruialrui Posts: 29member
    Nice job CA, again you prove you dont care what your citizens want & that YOU a state want to run the whole country!
  • Reply 40 of 72
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    Well the passage of that bill would take the final wraps off the police state. 

    mandatory flawed devices for police purposes? 
    edited March 2016
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