The fact it gets at least 50% less performance out of the same hardware tells you that's NOT the case.
Really? What same hardware? Have any citations?
If it stutters in the UI (still) and it throttles quick, that's it. Go find it. You know I'm right, don't play dumb. Android's been a pita in managing resources since the very start.
Also, find me a fracking Android with 1G of memory which actually is not stalled solid and then will talk. Seriously, If it takes twice the memory to barely keep up, 50% is very very generous. Windows Phone are also better than Android at managing resources. You're going to tell me a god damn generic OS will perform close to an integrated stack; don't make me laugh. That's the whole point of going with Apple instead of Google; tight hardware/software integration, are you going to tell me there is no difference? give me a break.
Also, I just told you I used the S7 for awhile; learn to read.
If it stutters in the UI (still) and it throttles quick, that's it. Go find it. You know I'm right, don't play dumb. Android's been a pita in managing resources since the very start.
Also, find me a fracking Android with 1G of memory which actually is not stalled solid and then will talk. Seriously, If it takes twice the memory to barely keep up, 50% is very very generous. Windows Phone are also better than Android at managing resources. You're going to tell me a god damn generic OS will perform close to an integrated stack; don't make me laugh. That's the whole point of going with Apple instead of Google; tight hardware/software integration, are you going to tell me there is no difference? give me a break.
Also, I just told you I used the S7 for awhile; learn to read.
So using a single device for no more than a couple of weeks says EVERYTHING about a whole OS?
Well I guess my current iPhone which has multiple app crashes, constantly freezes, reboots several times a day, horrible battery life says to me, iOS sucks balls. But I know better and that it's just this one device as I've had multiple and understand that sometimes a bad rotten apple gets through when you make millions at a time.
You're missing the point that he's trying to say. Both OSs do the exact same thing for what the majority of what people use thier smart devices for. Web browsing, text, calls, emails, photos, and social media of some sort. They both do all those equally the same. In some cases, like that S7 you "used" they do things better such a photos which the iPhone has been behind the last two years when they where always ahead.
That is a difference which I noted, along with build quality from in my first post.
None of the other things you mention pertain my comment because none of your points has anything to do with 'feature sets' which was the emphasis of my remarks. I never said buying an Android is smart or better in any way other than price and that was my conclusion as to one possible reason people are attracted to Android.
Jeez, people get so riled up. Unless you unequivocally denounce Android as complete garbage you get flamed around here. If Android was complete garbage it would not exist. Now with the obligatory car analogy. If Android was complete garbage it would have gone the way of the Yuzo. It may be more like a Hyundai. Just because I drive a German luxury car doesn't mean that a Hyundai is complete garbage. It carries the groceries and the kids just as well as my luxury car and because it is less expensive there are people who consider that, among other things, in their purchasing decision.
Yuzo? You're talking about the Yugo? Android is closer to someone trying to build a Porsche with the spare parts from a Hyundai; if they didn't try to do that I'd be perfectly fine with them being the Hyundai of phones. They're a perfectly fine, if unexciting option, like eating corn beef, or spam in a can ;-). Yes, I'm embarrassed, I sometimes do that :-).
It is indeed embarrassing that Samsung priced a Hyundai with Porsche price, including all the advertisements to point that out. What is more embarrassing is that people really eat that up. How can they really think Samsung phone is much superior than iPhone?
If it stutters in the UI (still) and it throttles quick, that's it. Go find it. You know I'm right, don't play dumb. Android's been a pita in managing resources since the very start.
[...] Also, I just told you I used the S7 for awhile; learn to read.
Just looking for an unbiased scientific analytical review not a fanatic opinion. Have any links? I don't really put much merit in the opinion of one anonymous guy on the Internet. It is not that I disagree with your opinion but just prefer to get my information from verifiable sources.
The 5x is a decent phone but it isn't the level of an iPhone.
Keep in mind the 5x is almost 6 months old so you are only guaranteed 12 months of OS updates. If you only keep your phones for 12 months then maybe its a decent deal.
But that cheap price also highlights a major weakness in Android phones - resale. With iPhones you get $100-$300 more in resale value and that makes up most of the difference in initial cost. With that in mind you are actually only paying about $100 more over 2 years getting an iPhone. We are talking pennies a day.
iPhone 6s $550 Nexus 5x $220
iPhone resale after 2 years- $200 Nexus 5x resale after 2 years - $0
iPhone additional cost to own $130 Cost to own per day over Nexus - 18 cents a day
You have some errors...
The Nexus 5 is 2.5 years old, and is selling for $50 used (nonzero). Some 2yr iPhones are selling at $200, but good-screen $150 is easy to find. Additional cost to own an iPhone is really closer to $230 every two years. That said, cost is my last consideration for phone choice. I'm buying Android because it's the best for me, and I'd pay $750 if that's what it took. It just turns out that the very best Android phones are starting at around $300, and are discounted from there (Nexus and Moto X).
My (shelved) Nexus 4 received nearly instant updates for 3 years. That's a Nexus thing. They do abandon them, but I'm a 24-month kind of owner and will never see it.
I agree that the iPhone hardware is generally superior, but not to the point that it matters much, and it's not perfect. The 5x is performant, has a great screen and chassis, and is kept current by the manufacturer.
Right now I'm on a 2014 Moto X that I bought for $300, and it's kept up to date as well (not quite as current as Nexus, but 6-9 months ahead of Samsung). I much prefer my Moto X chassis because it's waterproof. I don't have to worry about rainstorms on long road bike rides or making sure to bring/find baggies. Great support too, as I dropped it one time too many, and cracked the screen, and they replaced the whole phone for $100 (amounts to a battery refresh to replace my 18 month old battery).
There's a lot of Android crap out there, but you have a premium experience for a good price. I think Android can be leveraged better by technically sophisticated users, while the iPhone provides a great experience for all levels of user. Different strokes.
Yuzo? You're talking about the Yugo? Android is closer to someone trying to build a Porsche with the spare parts from a Hyundai; if they didn't try to do that I'd be perfectly fine with them being the Hyundai of phones. They're a perfectly fine, if unexciting option, like eating corn beef, or spam in a can ;-). Yes, I'm embarrassed, I sometimes do that :-).
It is indeed embarrassing that Samsung priced a Hyundai with Porsche price, including all the advertisements to point that out. What is more embarrassing is that people really eat that up. How can they really think Samsung phone is much superior than iPhone?
"Superiority" is matter of perspective.
S7 is well put together, waterproof, has great camera and beautiful display. Things people, who don't care to dive into tech details, still can see easily. I did, and I'm not even big fan of Android or Samsung.
I do like to dive into tech details just as well, too, and I know that iPhone hardware is second to none, overall... but not everyone's usage scenario will take advantage of full performance phone can offer. For many, if not most, difference will not be noticeable at all... realistically, I'm still using 3 years old Lumia 920, it still does all I need it for quite satisfyingly: calls, texts, maps and navigation, email, FB, calendar, occasional browsing... even camera is still usable if I don't have proper camera with me. Even my iPhone 3Gs served me for 4 years and probably would a bit longer, was it not for iOS6 "upgrade" that pretty much crippled it.
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Android's been a pita in managing resources since the very start.
Also, find me a fracking Android with 1G of memory which actually is not stalled solid and then will talk.
Seriously, If it takes twice the memory to barely keep up, 50% is very very generous.
Windows Phone are also better than Android at managing resources.
You're going to tell me a god damn generic OS will perform close to an integrated stack; don't make me laugh.
That's the whole point of going with Apple instead of Google; tight hardware/software integration, are you going to tell me there is no difference?
give me a break.
Also, I just told you I used the S7 for awhile; learn to read.
Well I guess my current iPhone which has multiple app crashes, constantly freezes, reboots several times a day, horrible battery life says to me, iOS sucks balls. But I know better and that it's just this one device as I've had multiple and understand that sometimes a bad rotten apple gets through when you make millions at a time.
You're missing the point that he's trying to say. Both OSs do the exact same thing for what the majority of what people use thier smart devices for. Web browsing, text, calls, emails, photos, and social media of some sort. They both do all those equally the same. In some cases, like that S7 you "used" they do things better such a photos which the iPhone has been behind the last two years when they where always ahead.
It is indeed embarrassing that Samsung priced a Hyundai with Porsche price, including all the advertisements to point that out. What is more embarrassing is that people really eat that up. How can they really think Samsung phone is much superior than iPhone?
The Nexus 5 is 2.5 years old, and is selling for $50 used (nonzero). Some 2yr iPhones are selling at $200, but good-screen $150 is easy to find. Additional cost to own an iPhone is really closer to $230 every two years. That said, cost is my last consideration for phone choice. I'm buying Android because it's the best for me, and I'd pay $750 if that's what it took. It just turns out that the very best Android phones are starting at around $300, and are discounted from there (Nexus and Moto X).
My (shelved) Nexus 4 received nearly instant updates for 3 years. That's a Nexus thing. They do abandon them, but I'm a 24-month kind of owner and will never see it.
I agree that the iPhone hardware is generally superior, but not to the point that it matters much, and it's not perfect. The 5x is performant, has a great screen and chassis, and is kept current by the manufacturer.
Right now I'm on a 2014 Moto X that I bought for $300, and it's kept up to date as well (not quite as current as Nexus, but 6-9 months ahead of Samsung). I much prefer my Moto X chassis because it's waterproof. I don't have to worry about rainstorms on long road bike rides or making sure to bring/find baggies. Great support too, as I dropped it one time too many, and cracked the screen, and they replaced the whole phone for $100 (amounts to a battery refresh to replace my 18 month old battery).
There's a lot of Android crap out there, but you have a premium experience for a good price. I think Android can be leveraged better by technically sophisticated users, while the iPhone provides a great experience for all levels of user. Different strokes.
S7 is well put together, waterproof, has great camera and beautiful display. Things people, who don't care to dive into tech details, still can see easily. I did, and I'm not even big fan of Android or Samsung.
I do like to dive into tech details just as well, too, and I know that iPhone hardware is second to none, overall... but not everyone's usage scenario will take advantage of full performance phone can offer. For many, if not most, difference will not be noticeable at all... realistically, I'm still using 3 years old Lumia 920, it still does all I need it for quite satisfyingly: calls, texts, maps and navigation, email, FB, calendar, occasional browsing... even camera is still usable if I don't have proper camera with me. Even my iPhone 3Gs served me for 4 years and probably would a bit longer, was it not for iOS6 "upgrade" that pretty much crippled it.