You really can't compare Scandinavian counties with the US. The US is huge and has an extremely diverse population. Many differences.
You shouldn't compare the countries. What you should do is compare political and economic systems and beg borrow and steal the ones that work. People are very defensive about their own country's political and economic platforms and I don't understand why. The Scandinavian countries have been working at it for a very long time and when you go there people still complain. They are not perfect. One thing you rarely hear are people complaining about their taxes, though. One advantage that a smaller country affords is the the decreased ability for large companies to ride roughshod over the population in the pursuit of profits. It is easier to keep an eye on what is going on in a smaller state.
That's a good thing. I am voting for danger. We need to shake things up, massively.
I'm not for any candidate, but he is by far the worst choice in my opinion. The country's well being is much too important to put in the hands of a pompous megalomaniac like Trump. People who are racist, homophobic, misogynist, elitist or just ignorant assholes are the only ones supporting him. Sorry if that describes you.
The bums and losers are the Trump supporters. Anyone making money or who is well educated is against Trump. He is dangerous. If he becomes president it will be because the US population has descended into complete chaos, despair, and delusion thinking that going back to the dark ages is actually making America great again. Trump having his finger anywhere near the nuclear button is a disaster just waiting to happen.
Well here we go. I get that Trump shoots his mouth off, but I'd rather compare each candidate's performance in the real world: the one that most of us live and work in, not the political realm of Washington DC. Trump has failed many times, and always picked himself back up again and come back stronger. Hillary (nor Bernie for that matter) haven't even tried.
The bums and losers are the Trump supporters. Anyone making money or who is well educated is against Trump. He is dangerous. If he becomes president it will be because the US population has descended into complete chaos, despair, and delusion thinking that going back to the dark ages is actually making America great again. Trump having his finger anywhere near the nuclear button is a disaster just waiting to happen.
Well here we go. I get that Trump shoots his mouth off, but I'd rather compare each candidate's performance in the real world: the one that most of us live and work in, not the political realm of Washington DC. Trump has failed many times, and always picked himself back up again and come back stronger. Hillary (nor Bernie for that matter) haven't even tried.
You say that, and to some extent maybe that is true, but had Trump just invested his money he inherited and stayed out of business he would have been worth about three times what he is worth today. Not so much of a fantastic business man as he claims, perhaps.
I have no idea why anyone would support Bernie. His tax plan is insane. $15 plus trillion in tax hikes. He will destroy the middle class of this country. If you listen to all Bernie's ideas (free college, Medicare for everyone, etc) he's the crazy one, not Trump.
Check out some of the countries that Bernie keeps referring to - i.e. the Scandinavian countries. One problem with Bernie is that he has referred to himself as a socialist and as we all know Americans are terrified of that word. The thing is that none of the Scandinavian countries think of themselves as socialist. They are free market capitalist societies. They have relatively high taxes but they also have free college and very low university fees, universal health care, and a whole lot of other things that are not socialist or left wing, but just common sense. The standard of living in the Scandinavian countries is very high. It can't happen over night in the US, but it is not crazy.
They may not call themselves socialists, but that's what they are. You tax people and companies that actually do work, so you can provide free services to others. There is absolutely no incentive to work harder or invest. Personally, I don't want to live in a world where college is free. I do not want to pay for your kid to go to college nor do I want to pay your doctor bills. Nothing is free, somebody is paying for it. Rather it not be me.
You really can't compare Scandinavian counties with the US. The US is huge and has an extremely diverse population. Many differences.
You shouldn't compare the countries. What you should do is compare political and economic systems and beg borrow and steal the ones that work.
My point is that like a company for example, if you have 10 employees, easy to manage, however if you you have 10,000 employees you need to take a different approach. What works for Scandinavia doesn't necessarily work for the US.
So you're telling me that the vote will be between a corrupt, establishment demagogue and trump?
Bernie Sanders is corrupt?! OK...
Where'd you get that from? Your post was about hillary winning the dem nomination, so I was referring to her as the corrupt, establishment demagogue, not Bernie.
mike1 said: Personally, I don't want to live in a world where college is free. I do not want to pay for your kid to go to college nor do I want to pay your doctor bills. Nothing is free, somebody is paying for it. Rather it not be me.
You might have selfish attitudes now, but at some point you may need the charity of others. You reap what you sow. Helping others benefits humankind, or perhaps you don't want to be part of that clan.
Helping others benefits humankind, or perhaps you don't want to be part of that clan.
Hell no. I am not a part of that clan. Have you seen humans worldwide lately? A significant percentage are deranged and violent, primitive beings, who believe in superstitious garbage, and practice violent, barbaric religions.
I am part of the American clan and I put the US before any other country.
Hell no. I am not a part of that clan. Have you seen humans worldwide lately? A significant percentage are deranged and violent, primitive beings, who believe in superstitious garbage, and practice violent, barbaric religions.
I am part of the American clan and I put the US before any other country.
Have you seen the population of America lately? It is a microcosm of worldwide cultures. You are not in Kansas anymore. Deal with it.
I have no idea why anyone would support Bernie. His tax plan is insane. $15 plus trillion in tax hikes. He will destroy the middle class of this country. If you listen to all Bernie's ideas (free college, Medicare for everyone, etc) he's the crazy one, not Trump.
Check out some of the countries that Bernie keeps referring to - i.e. the Scandinavian countries. One problem with Bernie is that he has referred to himself as a socialist and as we all know Americans are terrified of that word. The thing is that none of the Scandinavian countries think of themselves as socialist. They are free market capitalist societies. They have relatively high taxes but they also have free college and very low university fees, universal health care, and a whole lot of other things that are not socialist or left wing, but just common sense. The standard of living in the Scandinavian countries is very high. It can't happen over night in the US, but it is not crazy.
High taxes, free college, universal health care... NONE of those things represent free market policies. They are all signs of a powerful state and a government that is socialistic and/or Marxist.
Check out some of the countries that Bernie keeps referring to - i.e. the Scandinavian countries. One problem with Bernie is that he has referred to himself as a socialist and as we all know Americans are terrified of that word. The thing is that none of the Scandinavian countries think of themselves as socialist. They are free market capitalist societies. They have relatively high taxes but they also have free college and very low university fees, universal health care, and a whole lot of other things that are not socialist or left wing, but just common sense. The standard of living in the Scandinavian countries is very high. It can't happen over night in the US, but it is not crazy.
No, it's not. Their standards of living are lower than in the US; far lower. And his regulation plans are more strict than the European countries, who are running away from socialism.
This just proves these employees are idiots. They never associate the consequences with their actions. Likely the same ones who have turned California into a dying rats nest.
Agreed. Another lesson that has seemingly gone unlearned by these fools is the huge mistake Russia made 100 years ago. They're only now starting to dig themselves out of that mess.
That's a good thing. I am voting for danger. We need to shake things up, massively.
I'm not for any candidate, but he is by far the worst choice in my opinion. The country's well being is much too important to put in the hands of a pompous megalomaniac like Trump. People who are racist, homophobic, misogynist, elitist or just ignorant assholes are the only ones supporting him. Sorry if that describes you.
The media being in the Democrats pocket may spin, spin, spin their coverage to be blatantly anti-Trump, but that is exactly what Trump is making work for him. He's certainly not my ideal candidate, by a long shot, but it sure looks like he's going to emerge the winner. Clinton has a hell of a lot of baggage.
Have you seen the population of America lately? It is a microcosm of worldwide cultures. You are not in Kansas anymore. Deal with it.
I live in a big city, one of the most diverse cities, if not the most diverse. Dinner is easy for me every night, as I literally have thousands of different things and restaurants to choose from.
Having diverse cultures is fine, as long as everybody assimilates and adapts to American culture. If they don't, then they will run into problems.
We are going to get rid of many tens of millions of criminal, illegal foreign intruders soon, and deport them to where they belong.
Where'd you get that from? Your post was about hillary winning the dem nomination, so I was referring to her as the corrupt, establishment demagogue, not Bernie.
Any specific examples of her demagoguery and confirmed cases corruption, or are you referring to the usual BS from BS-supporters (e.g., innuendoes such as Wall Street/Verizon/speaking fees, email server, Clinton Foundation.... yada yada yada).
People who are racist, homophobic, misogynist, elitist or just ignorant assholes are the only ones supporting him. Sorry if that describes you.
You forgot Nazis.
The positions of Trump and Cruz don't seem bad or radical to me. For example, why is border security bad? How is legal immigration radical? Liberals never explain why they favor open borders and illegal immigration. Instead, they use insults to avoid defending their extremist positions. Several examples of that here.
High taxes, free college, universal health care... NONE of those things represent free market policies. They are all signs of a powerful state and a government that is socialistic and/or Marxist.
Many self righteous people seem to believe that they picked themselves up by their own bootstraps, however, the truth is, someone else paid for those bootstraps and a whole lot more. Time to give back for future generations. Let's give everyone an opportunity to succeed.
The positions of Trump and Cruz don't seem bad or radical to me. For example, why is border security bad? How is legal immigration radical? Liberals never explain why they favor open borders and illegal immigration. Instead, they use insults to avoid defending their extremist positions. Several examples of that here.
True.
Liberals live in an alternate reality where everything that is good becomes bad, and everything that is bad is ok in their eyes, and they can never argue or explain their positions in an intelligent manner. They just hurl insults and shout loudly, like a gang of baboons.
The other day I saw a Bernie supporter on video spit on a child's face, but they're supposed to be the peaceful ones.
Whenever you see deranged leftists walking around with their peace signs and other nonsense, they're usually the first to resort to violence.
Their whole movement is based upon lies and they're all frauds.
Lib-Simulator said: The positions of Trump and Cruz don't seem bad or radical to me. For example, why is border security bad? How is legal immigration radical?
I don't think anyone is against security, border protection or for illegal immigration. It is more a matter of using methods that are appropriate for any given situation. Most Republican policy suggestions are like recommending amputating an appendage because of a few mosquito bites. We need to deal with our social problems in the least invasive manner, not radical destructive measures. Both Trump and Cruz have very bizarre ideas, which for the most part, are simply inflammatory rhetoric. None of what they claim they will do will be at all possible.
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You shouldn't compare the countries. What you should do is compare political and economic systems and beg borrow and steal the ones that work. People are very defensive about their own country's political and economic platforms and I don't understand why. The Scandinavian countries have been working at it for a very long time and when you go there people still complain. They are not perfect. One thing you rarely hear are people complaining about their taxes, though. One advantage that a smaller country affords is the the decreased ability for large companies to ride roughshod over the population in the pursuit of profits. It is easier to keep an eye on what is going on in a smaller state.
Source: http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/
I am part of the American clan and I put the US before any other country.
Having diverse cultures is fine, as long as everybody assimilates and adapts to American culture. If they don't, then they will run into problems.
We are going to get rid of many tens of millions of criminal, illegal foreign intruders soon, and deport them to where they belong.
Deal with it.
Liberals live in an alternate reality where everything that is good becomes bad, and everything that is bad is ok in their eyes, and they can never argue or explain their positions in an intelligent manner. They just hurl insults and shout loudly, like a gang of baboons.
The other day I saw a Bernie supporter on video spit on a child's face, but they're supposed to be the peaceful ones.
Whenever you see deranged leftists walking around with their peace signs and other nonsense, they're usually the first to resort to violence.
Their whole movement is based upon lies and they're all frauds.