No ducking way: Apple may soon let your friends know when autocorrect makes a mistake

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  • Reply 21 of 40
    The tech should be so much further along than it is.  I constantly get fro instead of for, hell instead of he'll, and on and on.  And siri... oh man.
    dysamoria
  • Reply 22 of 40
    How about just making auto-correct better. I don't care about anybodys BS agenda... bad words are words that are used very often. Nobody should have to constantly fixing ducking shot. Furthermore, after I correct something 2 times, get the picture and stop trying to correct me. For now what I do is add common words to the dictionary that auto-correct always gets wrong. Settings > General > Keyboard > Text Replacement. You can use it to put whole words in and not just acronyms and it works awesome.
    edited April 2016 dysamoria
  • Reply 23 of 40
    I want autocorrect turned off completely. I use a lot of specialized words and jargon. I'm sick of having to constantly argue with a stupid machine over the correct spelling of a word.

    Besides, autocorrect does not fix the most egregious spelling errors such as confusing 'loose' with 'lose,' 'cite' with 'site,' or 'hangar' with 'hanger.' In fact, it is likely to make those errors. As far as I am concerned, autocorrect is a complete and utter failure and any attempts to fix it will just make things even worse.
    You can turn off Auto-Correct by going into Settings -> General -> Keyboard and toggling off Auto-Correction.  You can also turn off Spell Check and Predictive words too.
    badmonk
  • Reply 24 of 40
    noivadnoivad Posts: 186member
    I turned off what I called “autodefect” because it was causing more confusion than a misspelled word would. At least with an obvious typo, the receiver had a better chance to figure out what was meant, and not that you suddenly decided to say something crude which is oddly its goto correction. Worse, it would auto correct correctly spelled words that must not have been in its 6th grade level dictionary. Having to catch my mistake before my muscle memory to hit space after words defeated the ability to correct autodefected word meant having to select it (or backspace) and retype the whole word. After many slow downs this behavior caused, I realized it was faster to turn it off, and then look for underlined words rather than deal with the added frustration. This comes after a prior update messed up their predictive keyboard: The defect rate wasn’t as big a problem before Apple engineers made the predictive keyboard targets larger when it guessed what the next key was. My accuracy was a lot better before an iOS update enlarged the target for letters it expected next and would eclipse & intercept keys I hit dead center and replace the letter with the expected letter. After that my accuracy and speed actually plummeted because I had to keep backspacing and try to rekey (often with the predictive KB still intercepting my intended keystroke, and without being able to override it. So, to fix that, Apple piles on more crap with autodefect which uses the same assumptions about your diction. Now Apple realizes autodefect amplifies errors and miscommunications, and they decide to pave over its bad design decision with more crapware that will slow down the receiver just as much as the sender—way to go Apple Engineers: keep piling junk to fix your fixes & slow down feedback. It’s just arrogance to think the problem they created would be better addressed by the same thinking that got them into this mess of a UX instead of allowing people to simple turn off target prediction.
  • Reply 25 of 40
    sergiozsergioz Posts: 338member
    i was the guy who thought of that! 
  • Reply 26 of 40
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    I want autocorrect turned off completely. I use a lot of specialized words and jargon. I'm sick of having to constantly argue with a stupid machine over the correct spelling of a word.

    Besides, autocorrect does not fix the most egregious spelling errors such as confusing 'loose' with 'lose,' 'cite' with 'site,' or 'hangar' with 'hanger.' In fact, it is likely to make those errors. As far as I am concerned, autocorrect is a complete and utter failure and any attempts to fix it will just make things even worse.
    By all means, turn it off in your settings. You can do that, you know?

    i lived without it for a day, until I ealized that it was necessary just to type more than a couple words per minute on a touch screen. 
  • Reply 27 of 40
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    noivad said:
    I turned off what I called “autodefect” because it was causing more confusion than a misspelled word would. At least with an obvious typo, the receiver had a better chance to figure out what was meant, and not that you suddenly decided to say something crude which is oddly its goto correction. Worse, it would auto correct correctly spelled words that must not have been in its 6th grade level dictionary. Having to catch my mistake before my muscle memory to hit space after words defeated the ability to correct autodefected word meant having to select it (or backspace) and retype the whole word. After many slow downs this behavior caused, I realized it was faster to turn it off, and then look for underlined words rather than deal with the added frustration. This comes after a prior update messed up their predictive keyboard: The defect rate wasn’t as big a problem before Apple engineers made the predictive keyboard targets larger when it guessed what the next key was. My accuracy was a lot better before an iOS update enlarged the target for letters it expected next and would eclipse & intercept keys I hit dead center and replace the letter with the expected letter. After that my accuracy and speed actually plummeted because I had to keep backspacing and try to rekey (often with the predictive KB still intercepting my intended keystroke, and without being able to override it. So, to fix that, Apple piles on more crap with autodefect which uses the same assumptions about your diction. Now Apple realizes autodefect amplifies errors and miscommunications, and they decide to pave over its bad design decision with more crapware that will slow down the receiver just as much as the sender—way to go Apple Engineers: keep piling junk to fix your fixes & slow down feedback. It’s just arrogance to think the problem they created would be better addressed by the same thinking that got them into this mess of a UX instead of allowing people to simple turn off target prediction.
    While I agree with the specifics of your complaint, I would love a feature that makes reading your post easier by autocorrecting your punctuation and separating your wall of text into paragraphs. 
  • Reply 28 of 40
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    Last comment on this topic: I'm in full agreement with people saying that autocorrect and keyboard behaviors themselves need improvement. Apple actively rejects words that shouldn't be rejected. Like "abuse" and all forms of the word. WTF Apple? Also, try to have an adult conversation about sex with quick typing, using proper terminology even.

    i understand that Apple doesn't want to "put words in our mouths" but it's doing exactly that. At least let us edit the damned keyboard dictionary to eliminate autocorrecting a word into, for example, a proper noun we don't want and never use, and to allow us to add technical words. Even better: a "safe filter" disabled setting. Autocorrect already creates enough problems with the puritanical filter default. All you have to do is tell it not to correct a profanity variation not in the dictionary (typically compounds) and it happily SUGGESTS it later. 

    The keyboard doesn't scale up to faster typing. As you type faster, your range of motion contracts and the keyboard doesn't compensate. As such, autocorrect is constantly choosing present tense words instead of past tense words when I'm typing (s instead of ed). 

    then there are the bugs found on text boxes on websites, like this one. Notice the lack of capital letter on the last sentence? Watch the next line:

    heres sbr exsnple.  

    Where was autocorrect? That is what happens on every new line on this comment form, on Apple's forum, and on their feedback pages.

    the original invention was a good one but it hasn't really evolved since. Software development at Apple has turned into functional stagnation, annoyingly combined with too many unnecessary platform revisions to sell new devices. All that changes are surface features that are either unnecessary ("new features" of questionable utility, simplified by functionality removal, or just cosmetics) or even worsen the product usability (the flat GUI nonsense, the crippling of the almost excellent iWork, and the stagnation of pro content creation tools). Bugs are not getting eliminated and are building up with the seasonal OS major revision schedule (Text selection and app/tab previews are STILL buggy after how many versions of iOS 9???).

    The software IS the product. The hardware won't sell if the software rots. Apple seriously needs to spend more attention on functionality than surface features. They have until the competition finally catches up (in terms of usability) to recognize this. By then, it won't matter anymore.
  • Reply 29 of 40
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    noivad said:
    I turned off what I called “autodefect” because it was causing more confusion than a misspelled word would. At least with an obvious typo, the receiver had a better chance to figure out what was meant, and not that you suddenly decided to say something crude which is oddly its goto correction. Worse, it would auto correct correctly spelled words that must not have been in its 6th grade level dictionary. Having to catch my mistake before my muscle memory to hit space after words defeated the ability to correct autodefected word meant having to select it (or backspace) and retype the whole word. After many slow downs this behavior caused, I realized it was faster to turn it off, and then look for underlined words rather than deal with the added frustration. This comes after a prior update messed up their predictive keyboard: The defect rate wasn’t as big a problem before Apple engineers made the predictive keyboard targets larger when it guessed what the next key was. My accuracy was a lot better before an iOS update enlarged the target for letters it expected next and would eclipse & intercept keys I hit dead center and replace the letter with the expected letter. After that my accuracy and speed actually plummeted because I had to keep backspacing and try to rekey (often with the predictive KB still intercepting my intended keystroke, and without being able to override it. So, to fix that, Apple piles on more crap with autodefect which uses the same assumptions about your diction. Now Apple realizes autodefect amplifies errors and miscommunications, and they decide to pave over its bad design decision with more crapware that will slow down the receiver just as much as the sender—way to go Apple Engineers: keep piling junk to fix your fixes & slow down feedback. It’s just arrogance to think the problem they created would be better addressed by the same thinking that got them into this mess of a UX instead of allowing people to simple turn off target prediction.
    Just turn it off, type better, and stop ranting, in that order.

    PS: Please use the return key to create a paragraph too; or did Apple cause that too...
  • Reply 30 of 40
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,382member
    Wow. The entitlement, laziness, and whining is strong in this thread. God forbid some of you spend 2 seconds actually reading your messages before you send them, and take some accountability instead of blaming your sloppiness and laziness on auto-correct.

    Oh, and autocorrect can be turned off, something it seems 50% of people here don't know or pretend not to know. 

    Also, it seems most people I know pretend to send an incomprehensible text 5 times in a row, because they have too much ADHD to spend a split second before bashing send, over and over again. Drives me nuts. There's absolutely no pride in communication anymore, or at least in even attempting to spell even a fraction of words correctly. 



    tallest skil
  • Reply 31 of 40
    zimmie said:
    gatorguy said:
    One of the most appropriate auto-corrects I've seen lately and quite funny: Typing "lardass" was correcting to Kardashian.
    I still like one I noticed a few years ago. My phone (and every other I've tried) attempts to replace "Donner" with "dinner". I kind of wonder if it was an attempt at some really dark humor, given the Donner party.
    How often do you type Donner? Do you know someone by that name, or are you just a really big fan of the reindeer? :p
    edited April 2016
  • Reply 32 of 40
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    Good feature, but doesn't seem large enough to be patent-worthy. A simple convenience.

    Like every other major company, Apple patents everything to make sure they don't get sued later on.

    * My bad – someone already replied to this *
    edited April 2016
  • Reply 33 of 40
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    slurpy said:
    God forbid some of you spend 2 seconds actually reading your messages before you send them...
    World’s going to hell on a bullet train, of that you can be sure.


    edited April 2016
  • Reply 34 of 40
    I want autocorrect turned off completely. I use a lot of specialized words and jargon. I'm sick of having to constantly argue with a stupid machine over the correct spelling of a word.


    No argument about the second part of your post, but regarding specialised words and jargon, can't you save the words with keyboard shortcuts?

    So rather than typing the words every time, you just type your shortcut and select the word from the suggestions. I find it pretty convenient.

    edited April 2016
  • Reply 35 of 40
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member

    No argument about the second part of your post

    The worst is when autocorrect doesn’t know a word that the built-in dictionary does.
  • Reply 36 of 40
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,718member
    I  swatched if my automobile collection to sea if my writhing is more a carrot.
    edited April 2016
  • Reply 37 of 40
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,544member
    An annoyance I've been faced with in autocorrect is the mysterious replacement of words with completely incorrect spellings.

    Particularly on apostrophised phrases. Goddamn, that drives me nuts. 

    It comes and goes, though. 
  • Reply 38 of 40
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    I  swatched if my automobile collection to sea if my writhing is more a carrot.
    Everyone knows that Jay Leno’s automobile collection writhes the most carrot.
    spheric said:
    Particularly on apostrophised phrases. Goddamn, that drives me nuts. 
    Well to we’ll. Every time.
  • Reply 39 of 40
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,544member
    No, for me it's things like changing "it's things" to "it' some things". 
  • Reply 40 of 40
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    spheric said:
    No, for me it's things like changing "it's things" to "it' some things". 
    Sounds like you need a reset, then. It shouldn’t be correcting to things that aren’t words.
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