Sad to hear about all those Finns losing their jobs.
It's tragic Nokia got hooked up with Microsoft.
Unfortunately, they got hooked up with MS a last gasp. They became irreverent with the rise of the smartphone and MS purchasing the hardware division of Nokia just prolonged the inevitable.
Sad to hear about all those Finns losing their jobs.
It's tragic Nokia got hooked up with Microsoft.
Unfortunately, they got hooked up with MS a last gasp. They became irreverent with the rise of the smartphone and MS purchasing the hardware division of Nokia just prolonged the inevitable.
Right. It wasn't Microsoft that killed Nokia, it was that Cupertino company and its loyal customers. Or, with due respect to Mick Jagger: "I shouted out who killed Nokia?, when after all it was you and me."
I can't help but think of Steve Ballmer's reaction to the iPhone in 2007. Maybe if he had taken it more seriously they'd still be in the game today. Its unfortunate how much he killed Microsoft because of his arrogance. Not only did he do this for the iPhone, but many other Apple products.
yeah the same thing happened to blackberry. I'll admit, I'll be very impressed if Microsoft finds a way to turn their phone business around
Unfortunately, they got hooked up with MS a last gasp. They became irreverent with the rise of the smartphone and MS purchasing the hardware division of Nokia just prolonged the inevitable.
Right. It wasn't Microsoft that killed Nokia, it was that Cupertino company and its loyal customers. Or, with due respect to Mick Jagger: "I shouted out who killed Nokia?, when after all it was you and me."
BTW, Nokia's not "dead", man they just absorbed the remains of Alcatel-Lucent-Nortel. They're still a major equipment maker, one of the few that's left. They're just not really there in the consumer market anymore.
I can't help but think of Steve Ballmer's reaction to the iPhone in 2007. Maybe if he had taken it more seriously they'd still be in the game today. Its unfortunate how much he killed Microsoft because of his arrogance. Not only did he do this for the iPhone, but many other Apple products.
He thought he could do the same thing he did to Netscape in 95, where he laughed off the web (and web browsers) as a fad while they desperately tried to catch up and dump IE onto all machines. The problem is that Windows Phones couldn't really be bundled for free with every Windows installation, and not just because they got bit on anti-trust over the browser thing.
And that's the secret to Microsoft's success: They can dominate any market they can force people to use their products. Once people get a choice, they start to struggle.
With BYOD it's delusional to think a mythical 'Surface' phone is going to penetrate the enterprise. BYOD can't be put back into a bottle and Microsoft has little market share in the consumer space. Are businesses even replacing laptops with Surface Pro's? The company I work for has over 200,000 employees and we use Dell and HP laptops. I couldn't get a Surface Pro even if I wanted one. Also we just recently upgraded to Windows 7 and IE 11; we won't be on Windows 10 any time soon. Microsoft doesn't need to be in the phone hardware business.
I own 5 companies. BYOD is not acceptable at any of them. BYOD is a fast track to a compromised IT infrastructure. Use you devise on your time not mine. Doubtful the average employee in a BYOD environment is anywhere near as viligant about security as their employers need them to be.
With BYOD it's delusional to think a mythical 'Surface' phone is going to penetrate the enterprise. BYOD can't be put back into a bottle and Microsoft has little market share in the consumer space. Are businesses even replacing laptops with Surface Pro's? The company I work for has over 200,000 employees and we use Dell and HP laptops. I couldn't get a Surface Pro even if I wanted one. Also we just recently upgraded to Windows 7 and IE 11; we won't be on Windows 10 any time soon. Microsoft doesn't need to be in the phone hardware business.
I own 5 companies. BYOD is not acceptable at any of them. BYOD is a fast track to a compromised IT infrastructure. Use you devise on your time not mine. Doubtful the average employee in a BYOD environment is anywhere near as viligant about security as their employers need them to be.
BYOD is pretty common these days in large organizations.
I own 5 companies. BYOD is not acceptable at any of them. BYOD is a fast track to a compromised IT infrastructure. Use you devise on your time not mine. Doubtful the average employee in a BYOD environment is anywhere near as viligant about security as their employers need them to be.
BYOD is pretty common these days in large organizations.
yes. It's cheaper to have the end user provide their own phone and calling plan/data plan. You multiply 10,000 phones by $2000 every 2 years, even stipending them $25 a month is a massive savings, and no hassle (chasing down corp phone users who love to watch netflix over LTE at home). and the employee doesn't have to carry 2 phones.
If you limit your BYOD choices to Samsung Knox, iOS, and WinPhone, and you actively manage your network and have an MDM, BYOD phones/tablets won't hit your top 10 of Infrastructure Security risks.
Maybe your top 10 in data loss risk, because the biggest risk in corp BYOD is the legalese about who can wipe your phone and when. You get a salesperson who quits for a better job and takes his contact list with him, along with all his sales notes. You state in your AUP the right to wipe the phone, she backs it up to her personal computer, and/or turns the phone off and calls a lawyer and claims corp has no right to destroy personal information on a personal device.
[been there done that, 4 times with 4 multi$B companies]
Ballmer will go down as one of the worst tech CEOs of all time.
I think he already has.
They will write case studies on how he managed to snatch self-annihilation from the jaws of victory. If I hadn't been around to watch it, I'm not sure I would have believed it.
With BYOD it's delusional to think a mythical 'Surface' phone is going to penetrate the enterprise. BYOD can't be put back into a bottle and Microsoft has little market share in the consumer space. Are businesses even replacing laptops with Surface Pro's? The company I work for has over 200,000 employees and we use Dell and HP laptops. I couldn't get a Surface Pro even if I wanted one. Also we just recently upgraded to Windows 7 and IE 11; we won't be on Windows 10 any time soon. Microsoft doesn't need to be in the phone hardware business.
I own 5 companies. BYOD is not acceptable at any of them. BYOD is a fast track to a compromised IT infrastructure. Use you devise on your time not mine. Doubtful the average employee in a BYOD environment is anywhere near as viligant about security as their employers need them to be.
Sorry, but everything you say is complete nonsense. Most BYOD devices under proper MDM-control are safer than any corporate laptop has been for the last three decades. I doubt you own 5 companies, but you sure have zero clue about IT.
Sad to hear about all those Finns losing their jobs.
It's tragic Nokia got hooked up with Microsoft.
I think those people were destined to lose their jobs whether or not they got hooked up with Microsoft. Microsoft may even have kept Nokia afloat longer than it would have been. I had a Nokia about 15 years ago before I started buying Sony "smart" phones and then iPhones. Getting another Nokia has never crossed my mind. That's just me, but I expect many people are the same.
That's an interesting member name you chose.
So your Nokia phones were prior to even them producing Smart phones, so you judge all their phones based on a phone from back then? So when you go to buy an iPad, did you say "well the newton sucked, so why would I purchase another Apple tablet?"
Unfortunately, they got hooked up with MS a last gasp. They became irreverent with the rise of the smartphone and MS purchasing the hardware division of Nokia just prolonged the inevitable.
Right. It wasn't Microsoft that killed Nokia, it was that Cupertino company and its loyal customers. Or, with due respect to Mick Jagger: "I shouted out who killed Nokia?, when after all it was you and me."
Nokia didn't die, Nokia sold a dying business unit to MS for billions, while they carried on with their profitible business
Sad to hear about all those Finns losing their jobs.
It's tragic Nokia got hooked up with Microsoft.
Unfortunately, they got hooked up with MS a last gasp. They became irreverent with the rise of the smartphone and MS purchasing the hardware division of Nokia just prolonged the inevitable.
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yeah the same thing happened to blackberry. I'll admit, I'll be very impressed if Microsoft finds a way to turn their phone business around
The problem is that Windows Phones couldn't really be bundled for free with every Windows installation, and not just because they got bit on anti-trust over the browser thing.
And that's the secret to Microsoft's success: They can dominate any market they can force people to use their products. Once people get a choice, they start to struggle.
If you limit your BYOD choices to Samsung Knox, iOS, and WinPhone, and you actively manage your network and have an MDM, BYOD phones/tablets won't hit your top 10 of Infrastructure Security risks.
Maybe your top 10 in data loss risk, because the biggest risk in corp BYOD is the legalese about who can wipe your phone and when. You get a salesperson who quits for a better job and takes his contact list with him, along with all his sales notes. You state in your AUP the right to wipe the phone, she backs it up to her personal computer, and/or turns the phone off and calls a lawyer and claims corp has no right to destroy personal information on a personal device.
[been there done that, 4 times with 4 multi$B companies]
They will write case studies on how he managed to snatch self-annihilation from the jaws of victory. If I hadn't been around to watch it, I'm not sure I would have believed it.
So your Nokia phones were prior to even them producing Smart phones, so you judge all their phones based on a phone from back then? So when you go to buy an iPad, did you say "well the newton sucked, so why would I purchase another Apple tablet?"
Nokia didn't die, Nokia sold a dying business unit to MS for billions, while they carried on with their profitible business