iPod update?

eppepp
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
do you think there is coming an iPod update in the next weeks or MWT?

and what are new features (radio tuner, 10 or 20 GB Harddrive, ...)??
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  • Reply 1 of 31
    The current iPod is still selling like a mother, so even if the 10/20 gb small format drives are available now (or soon), Apple will probably still wait.



    I asked myself this same question, and considered waiting for the "iPod 2," but decided to just go ahead and take the plunge, and I'm glad I did. 5gb is still a whole lot of MP3s!
  • Reply 2 of 31
    [quote]Originally posted by sizzle chest:

    <strong>5gb is still a whole lot of MP3s!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    That is a relatively large amount of course. Having 200 cd's worth of songs imported at 160kbps doesn't allow for complete storage of my collection on an iPod. It would be nice to pick and choose songs I listen to on the iPod itself (and on the road i might add), rather than from iTunes (at my house).



  • Reply 3 of 31
    I see no problem to an update of about another 5 gigs... what if they offered a 5 and 10 version the 5 at about 350-400 (as I understand the drive alone is almost 300 consumer) and the 10 could be 400-500 depending on drive cost and price of 5 gig model. Can the current iPod's be opened? Maybe you could upgrade in a year or two when these drives can be sold seperately and a bit cheaper? Ideas?
  • Reply 4 of 31
    cakecake Posts: 1,010member
    I'm pretty much a two-cd-at-a-time guy.

    How many of you really need more than 5 gigs? - for mp3's I mean.



    If the iPod becomes more versitile then I can understand more space, but it's fine as it is I think.
  • Reply 5 of 31
    [quote]Originally posted by Cake:

    <strong>

    How many of you really need more than 5 gigs? - for mp3's I mean.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    It would be nice to pick and choose songs I listen to on the iPod itself (and on the road i might add), rather than from iTunes (at my house). I don't want to be on the road cursing myself for leaving my Sounds of the 70's songs off my iPod because of a 5gb hd limit. See it yet?
  • Reply 6 of 31
    cakecake Posts: 1,010member
    So you're telling me that a thousand songs isn't enough to pick and choose?



    I'm not against more capacity, I just think that 5gigs is enough for now.
  • Reply 7 of 31
    bellebelle Posts: 1,574member
    I don't really want to carry my entire music collection around on an iPod - it wouldn't even fit on a 20GB drive.



    However, it would be nice if Apple would make sure iTunes 2.5 or 3 or whatever made it a lot easier to select exactly which songs to transfer to the iPod, rather than the daft brute force method it uses now.



    I want an iPod icon in the left hand panel that I can drag'n'drop songs, albums and playlists onto.
  • Reply 8 of 31
    nebrienebrie Posts: 483member
    [quote]Originally posted by Belle:

    <strong>I don't really want to carry my entire music collection around on an iPod - it wouldn't even fit on a 20GB drive.



    However, it would be nice if Apple would make sure iTunes 2.5 or 3 or whatever made it a lot easier to select exactly which songs to transfer to the iPod, rather than the daft brute force method it uses now.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Unclick the blue check box next to the song and it won't be uploaded to the iPod.
  • Reply 9 of 31
    bellebelle Posts: 1,574member
    [quote]Originally posted by Nebrie:

    <strong>Unclick the blue check box next to the song and it won't be uploaded to the iPod.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    I know. It's a crap way to choose which songs you want to transfer if you have a large library.
  • Reply 10 of 31
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    It'd be nice to keep all your song on there at 320Kbps instead of 160. Then you would get at least the proper illusion of CD quality sound instead of a techno-FM-tin-ear sound (that you can still detect on anything played with real instruments.)
  • Reply 11 of 31
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    I have 3.9 GB of 256 kbps mp3s on my iPod. That's about 39 hours of music that I'm pretty sure Matsu would not be able to tell apart from the original CD recording, even on my Grado SR-60s.



    I use LAME to encode though. There's a great AppleScript for LAME&lt;-&gt;iTunes arbitration.



    <a href="http://www.blacktree.com/scripts.html"; target="_blank">http://www.blacktree.com/scripts.html</a>;
  • Reply 12 of 31
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by Cake:

    <strong>So you're telling me that a thousand songs isn't enough to pick and choose?



    I'm not against more capacity, I just think that 5gigs is enough for now.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    uh... no.



    500Mhz is enough to get anything done. why do you want computers to be faster?
  • Reply 13 of 31
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    [quote]Originally posted by Belle:

    <strong>I don't really want to carry my entire music collection around on an iPod - it wouldn't even fit on a 20GB drive.



    However, it would be nice if Apple would make sure iTunes 2.5 or 3 or whatever made it a lot easier to select exactly which songs to transfer to the iPod, rather than the daft brute force method it uses now.



    I want an iPod icon in the left hand panel that I can drag'n'drop songs, albums and playlists onto.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Belle,

    You can do this. Click on the iPod button in the bottom of iTunes (it shows up after you've connected). Select "Manually manage songs and playlists." There you go. Drag and drop albums, playlists, create playlists from songs only on the ipod. Even burn your iPod playlists.



    Finding this feature made my iPod much more useful. Unlike most people, I have more songs on my iPod than I do on my computer. 3.9 gigs of a 10 gig HD is way too much for me to justify having on my iBook. So I have all my music on the iPod and a selection on the iBook. HTH.
  • Reply 14 of 31
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    What torifile said.



    Drag and drop.



    How marvelous!
  • Reply 15 of 31
    bellebelle Posts: 1,574member
    [quote]Originally posted by torifile:

    <strong>Belle,

    You can do this. Click on the iPod button in the bottom of iTunes (it shows up after you've connected). Select "Manually manage songs and playlists." There you go. Drag and drop albums, playlists, create playlists from songs only on the ipod. Even burn your iPod playlists.



    Finding this feature made my iPod much more useful. Unlike most people, I have more songs on my iPod than I do on my computer. 3.9 gigs of a 10 gig HD is way too much for me to justify having on my iBook. So I have all my music on the iPod and a selection on the iBook. HTH.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    I know about this, but thank you anyway.



    I wasn't really terribly clear in my post. As far as I'm aware, this feature is only available while your iPod is attached - you drag things onto your iPod, and they're transferred over.



    What I want is iPod aliases that I can organize all my songs and playlists on, then drag the appropriate iPod alias onto my iPod each morning before I go out. Otherwise, if I want a different set of songs/albums/playlists, I have to transfer each one by hand every time.
  • Reply 16 of 31
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    And making a normal playlist is different?



    I don't understand.



    I have been doing precisely that since I got mine.



    iPod 1

    iPod 2

    iPod 3

    iPod 4



    etc, etc.



    make playlist. select playlist. select all. drag. drop. done.



    [ 02-16-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
  • Reply 17 of 31
    Just wait till new audio formats come out



    There are new ones that might take up less space. MPEG-4 audio? What about all the formats that Apple can bring in through a firmware update?



    Also, yes, the iPod's casing can be opened and yes, hopefully being upgradable is an option . Go to your area Apple Store, drop your iPod off, pick it up the next day with a new HD installed. They back up the files and everything is as was before. Except now you have twice the HD capacity.



    By the way, 128k a sec is really just enough. Unless you are a hard core music listenern of course <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
  • Reply 18 of 31
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by Nebagakid:

    <strong>

    By the way, 128k a sec is really just enough. Unless you are a hard core music listenern of course <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    128K is horrible quality and nearly anyone that can hear can hear that there is a very significant difference from CD quality.



    192 is where most would probably say the difference isn't very noticable.
  • Reply 19 of 31
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    All depends on what you listen too. Phat beats will sound good between 128 and 192. The more acoustic instruments and intricate music you listen too -- things with huge dynamic range, mixtures of delicacy and agression, soft and hard, etc... -- the more you start to notice that low-bitrate MP3 sound doesn't quite measure up. 256-320 will give you a much better sound if you listen to the occasional orchestral recording, and it'll do much better with live rock (that will actually ound a lot closer to the live recording on your CD or DVD. I don't think I'd store more music, but I'm pretty sure I'd use bigger storage to store everything at a higher bit-rate -- especially if I had a way to play it all through my stereo.
  • Reply 20 of 31
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Actually, Matsu, that's basically where you're wrong. The more entropy, the harder it is to compress.



    Death Metal is harder to compress to mp3 than most orchestral music.



    It depends on the discerning ear perhaps.



    Think about it...what's easier to compress...the highly patterned or static?



    So yeah, it's probably conditioning where if you're listening to Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition and notice the brass is .001 Hz out of tune.



    [ 02-16-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
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