The food is tasty, the customer service is excellent, and the company is a great corporate citizen. I go out of my way to eat there if I'm ever in an area that has one.
I will not support an anti-LGBT business. And I don't care for their 'religious' aura either. The religious tend to be the antithesis of how I think people should behave.
So, keeping quality standards up, being generous with franchisees, closing on Sundays, Thanksgiving, and Christmas to allow people time with their families...these are all principles you disagree with?
You can disagree with a particular portion of the restaurant's policies without disagreeing with the whole.
Resistance against Apple pay is misguided and just provides competitors another opportunity to provide a better experience for their customers.
The most common excuse seems to be stores that want to provide their own payment platform to deliver their customer "a better experience", something they never make good on. They're better off to work with Apple to get their loyalty card system built into the Wallet/Apple Pay platform.
Apple with Apple Pay are in a unique position, competing offerings are poorly supported across devices or frustrating set up and use - there will still be a longish transition since getting a wallet or a phone out of one's pocket is a similar action - with only one of those guaranteed to work. This is where the watch performs brilliantly, it's effortless to double click the watch (or even through a coat in the colder seasons) and hold up the wrist to the payment terminal. I find this is worth trying even before pulling out my wallet.
I will not support an anti-LGBT business. And I don't care for their 'religious' aura either. The religious tend to be the antithesis of how I think people should behave.
You should be thankful that you are free to do so! Frankly you should be thankful that the nation is still free enough for a CEO to express support for traditional marriage. It is a good thing freedom, don't give it up and certainly don't restrict somebody else's freedom.
The food is tasty, the customer service is excellent, and the company is a great corporate citizen. I go out of my way to eat there if I'm ever in an area that has one.
Every time I travel south I seek out one of their restaurants. They are hard to beat considering they are a fast food restaurant.
Resistance against Apple pay is misguided and just provides competitors another opportunity to provide a better experience for their customers.
The most common excuse seems to be stores that want to provide their own payment platform to deliver their customer "a better experience", something they never make good on. They're better off to work with Apple to get their loyalty card system built into the Wallet/Apple Pay platform.
Apple with Apple Pay are in a unique position, competing offerings are poorly supported across devices or frustrating set up and use - there will still be a longish transition since getting a wallet or a phone out of one's pocket is a similar action - with only one of those guaranteed to work. This is where the watch performs brilliantly, it's effortless to double click the watch (or even through a coat in the colder seasons) and hold up the wrist to the payment terminal. I find this is worth trying even before pulling out my wallet.
It's not about a better experience for customers. It's about customer data. With Apple Pay the merchant winds up knowing very little about you as your data is kept out of their systems. They don't know your name, your credit card company, etc. It's why merchants like Rewards or Loyalty cards, they can know more about you and your buying habits. And it's about the fees involved. If they have their own system they don't pay Apple a fee. They already pay the credit card companies and banks for each transaction. Apple gets a few pennies too and it all adds up, sometimes as much as 3% of the transaction.
Their founder donated to some anti-gay organization, if I recall correctly. So what? What about 99.9% of the rest of their company? If I avoided every company whose CEO was a piece of garbage, I would have few consumer goods companies to buy from. I eat CFA all the time, and I have never once witnessed their employees being anything but extremely polite and competent. That is what matters to me.
I have never been to a Chick-fil-A yet, but one thing that I do know, is that I can't stand fascist SJWs and anti-freedom little brown shirt wannabes, so I will definitely be paying a visit the next time that I am nearby, especially now that they have Apple Pay.
Apart from their homophobia, their incredibly nasty food and their aesthetically-challenged logo, I think Chick-fil-A is tops!
What's most interesting about the brand to me is that their Eat More Chickn tv campaign is the most effective argument for vegetarianism I've ever seen. (I'm not a vegetarian but it definitely makes you think....)
I get that conflating issues with the company's policies and the merit of it accepting Apple Pay can be objectionable, it's downright shocking and sad how many angry, ill-informed messages defending the company there are in this thread.
It's one thing for the president of the company to publicly state he believes in "traditional" marriage (the term is overly vague and rather random -- Which tradition? From which culture? At which point in the long history of humans creating and living in stable communities?). It's another thing for the company to donate large sums of money to groups that actively work to deny a group basic human and legal rights. To read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/01/chick-fil-a-anti-gay-controversy-employees-speak-out_n_1729968.html
If the president stated, and acted accordingly, that he did not personally believe in granting marriage equality but left it at that, then that would be one thing. But to actively give lots of money to discriminate against a group whose members have been and continue to be singled out for persecution just for living their lives peaceably isn't something anyone be jumping to defend.
Against same-sex marriage? Don't have one.
And remember: compassion and solidarity will get us a lot further in our collective journey than meanspiritedness and discrimination will.
I will not support an anti-LGBT business. And I don't care for their 'religious' aura either. The religious tend to be the antithesis of how I think people should behave.
So, keeping quality standards up, being generous with franchisees, closing on Sundays, Thanksgiving, and Christmas to allow people time with their families...these are all principles you disagree with?
I will not support an anti-LGBT business. And I don't care for their 'religious' aura either. The religious tend to be the antithesis of how I think people should behave.
You should be thankful that you are free to do so! Frankly you should be thankful that the nation is still free enough for a CEO to express support for traditional marriage. It is a good thing freedom, don't give it up and certainly don't restrict somebody else's freedom.
^^^ Best post on an OT subthread ... WishI'd said that!
I will not support an anti-LGBT business. And I don't care for their 'religious' aura either. The religious tend to be the antithesis of how I think people should behave.
So, keeping quality standards up, being generous with franchisees, closing on Sundays, Thanksgiving, and Christmas to allow people time with their families...these are all principles you disagree with?
That's not what people a condemning them for and you know it. But you drop a lousy strawman. Any company* can do the things you cite especially without discriminating against employees.
*Apple for example.
I have not personally worked at Chick-Fil-A but my wife did for a period of time while my company was rotating me through their divisions. She worked there for about 4 months, her only restaurant experience; we were only going to be in the location for 4 months, no point in her finding a career move.
Obviously she is straight, but many of her coworkers weren't. No one cared. No one said not to hire them. No one minded or judged them for their preferences. They loved working there; Chick-Fil-A gave 1-2 free meals per day and generally paid $0.50 more per hour (at entry level) than more restaurants with older and/or long-term employees making 2-3 $ more per hour than other restaurants.
Moral of the story: get your head out of your a$$, stop believing everything the media says. This company has christian beliefs and sticks to them. They are not anti-LGBT, they are pro-christian. Conflicting viewpoints but they are plenty tolerant of the LGBT community. Look at what Chick-fil-a donates aid to; including the LGBT community tragedy in Florida.
Its a free country but do some research first. You can boycott for their Christian views but don't go around saying they are being prejudiced toward their employees based on LGBT. I had 3-4 friends work a CFA during high school; same comments from them.
I am sure some people in some locations experience issues (due to a managers views) at Chick-Fil-As but it is not a company theme. The company theme is to appreciate everyone; we need more companies like Chick-Fil-A. Christian or not.
I love eating at Chick-Fil-A and used Apple Pay there several months ago, and posted as much in other Apple Pay threads. So this announcement comes as a surprise. I guess the CFA I went to was part of a pilot program?
Lots of merchants/chains/businesses are listed as supporting Apple Pay but haven't implemented it yet. I still have to make a trip to an El Pollo Loco to see if they actual do AP. Maps shows a lot of nearby businesses using it, but I have my doubts.
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The most common excuse seems to be stores that want to provide their own payment platform to deliver their customer "a better experience", something they never make good on. They're better off to work with Apple to get their loyalty card system built into the Wallet/Apple Pay platform.
Apple with Apple Pay are in a unique position, competing offerings are poorly supported across devices or frustrating set up and use - there will still be a longish transition since getting a wallet or a phone out of one's pocket is a similar action - with only one of those guaranteed to work. This is where the watch performs brilliantly, it's effortless to double click the watch (or even through a coat in the colder seasons) and hold up the wrist to the payment terminal. I find this is worth trying even before pulling out my wallet.
Their salads and chicken are the best from the fast food industry. They also train their employees to be very respectful and professional. The company is highly community involved. For example, after the orlando massacre, the employees went to work on a Sunday and to make and donate food to people waiting in line to donating blood.
What's most interesting about the brand to me is that their Eat More Chickn tv campaign is the most effective argument for vegetarianism I've ever seen. (I'm not a vegetarian but it definitely makes you think....)
I get that conflating issues with the company's policies and the merit of it accepting Apple Pay can be objectionable, it's downright shocking and sad how many angry, ill-informed messages defending the company there are in this thread.
It's one thing for the president of the company to publicly state he believes in "traditional" marriage (the term is overly vague and rather random -- Which tradition? From which culture? At which point in the long history of humans creating and living in stable communities?). It's another thing for the company to donate large sums of money to groups that actively work to deny a group basic human and legal rights. To read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/01/chick-fil-a-anti-gay-controversy-employees-speak-out_n_1729968.html
If the president stated, and acted accordingly, that he did not personally believe in granting marriage equality but left it at that, then that would be one thing. But to actively give lots of money to discriminate against a group whose members have been and continue to be singled out for persecution just for living their lives peaceably isn't something anyone be jumping to defend.
Against same-sex marriage? Don't have one.
And remember: compassion and solidarity will get us a lot further in our collective journey than meanspiritedness and discrimination will.
The internet forum truly is the modern day refuge for bigots too cowardly to don their hideous attire in civil society. Sigh.
I have not personally worked at Chick-Fil-A but my wife did for a period of time while my company was rotating me through their divisions. She worked there for about 4 months, her only restaurant experience; we were only going to be in the location for 4 months, no point in her finding a career move.
Obviously she is straight, but many of her coworkers weren't. No one cared. No one said not to hire them. No one minded or judged them for their preferences. They loved working there; Chick-Fil-A gave 1-2 free meals per day and generally paid $0.50 more per hour (at entry level) than more restaurants with older and/or long-term employees making 2-3 $ more per hour than other restaurants.
Moral of the story: get your head out of your a$$, stop believing everything the media says. This company has christian beliefs and sticks to them. They are not anti-LGBT, they are pro-christian. Conflicting viewpoints but they are plenty tolerant of the LGBT community. Look at what Chick-fil-a donates aid to; including the LGBT community tragedy in Florida.
Its a free country but do some research first. You can boycott for their Christian views but don't go around saying they are being prejudiced toward their employees based on LGBT. I had 3-4 friends work a CFA during high school; same comments from them.
I am sure some people in some locations experience issues (due to a managers views) at Chick-Fil-As but it is not a company theme. The company theme is to appreciate everyone; we need more companies like Chick-Fil-A. Christian or not.
I love eating at Chick-Fil-A and used Apple Pay there several months ago, and posted as much in other Apple Pay threads. So this announcement comes as a surprise. I guess the CFA I went to was part of a pilot program?
Lots of merchants/chains/businesses are listed as supporting Apple Pay but haven't implemented it yet. I still have to make a trip to an El Pollo Loco to see if they actual do AP. Maps shows a lot of nearby businesses using it, but I have my doubts.