Apple CEO Tim Cook calls EU tax ruling 'total political crap,' cites potential anti-US sentiment

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  • Reply 161 of 196
    jpolster said:
    srice said:
    dacloo said:
    Pay taxes like anyone else, Tim Cook, and shut up.
    Glad you're creating jobs, but so is anyone else and they have to pay double digit taxes, not less than 1%.

    What an arrogant attitude. 
    This is probably a good time to repeat myself:

    The EU has a VAT - value added tax system, where the taxes are allocated based on where the value to the product was added. 

    They do not have a sales tax based system.

    No value is added in the EU, they are just a consumer.  So the taxes should rightfully be applied upstream - either to the US, where the product was designed and developed, or in China where the product was built. (or Ireland where the R&D is performed *cough*). 
    actually sales tax is exactly the same as VAT, just a different name. 
    Groan.... one can't compete with this level of ignorance and arrogance.
    actually it is the same really. In the US they differentiate a bit as VAT is a superset of sales tax and can only be collected by . But the effect the end user and the government is essentially the same. Yes there are some differences as VAT is a system that is funneled through the channel  but in the end its the same idea and for sake of this discussion its similar
  • Reply 162 of 196
    crowley said:

    "I think that's exactly what it is," Cook said. "I think it's a desire to reallocate taxes that should be paid in the U.S. to the EU."
    Wow, that's rich. Set up a corporation with the express intention of avoiding paying taxes in the US or EU, then try and play them off against each other when you get caught.

    Sorry Tim, your hands are slick with red stuff.
    Get caught abiding by Irish tax laws in Ireland?
    The EU is not ready for the global economy and should be dissolved.
    What the fuck do they think this is?  A Socialist World?
    That's what they would like it to be. Damn EU. 
  • Reply 163 of 196
    crowley said:
    This ludicrous politically motivated and invasive ruling is why Brexit no longer has any opposition in Great Britain.
    ???

    There is a huge amount of opposition to exit from the EU in Great Britain, so much so that the Prime Minister is shying away from a Parliamentary vote (which has raised constitutional issues), likely because a motion to invoke Article 50 won't pass.  

    Where did you pull this from?
    Bullshit, she has been very clear that Brexit means Brexit. Stop reading The Guardian.
    apple ][
  • Reply 164 of 196
    jpolster said:
    jpolster said:
    srice said:
    dacloo said:
    Pay taxes like anyone else, Tim Cook, and shut up.
    Glad you're creating jobs, but so is anyone else and they have to pay double digit taxes, not less than 1%.

    What an arrogant attitude. 
    This is probably a good time to repeat myself:

    The EU has a VAT - value added tax system, where the taxes are allocated based on where the value to the product was added. 

    They do not have a sales tax based system.

    No value is added in the EU, they are just a consumer.  So the taxes should rightfully be applied upstream - either to the US, where the product was designed and developed, or in China where the product was built. (or Ireland where the R&D is performed *cough*). 
    actually sales tax is exactly the same as VAT, just a different name. 
    Groan.... one can't compete with this level of ignorance and arrogance.
    actually it is the same really. In the US they differentiate a bit as VAT is a superset of sales tax and can only be collected by . But the effect the end user and the government is essentially the same. Yes there are some differences as VAT is a system that is funneled through the channel  but in the end its the same idea and for sake of this discussion its similar
    Vacuity piled on top of ignorance. I don't know what else to say.
  • Reply 165 of 196

    He's right. But what I find interesting is that Tim Cook supports political candidates here in the US that would support imposing high taxes on Apple and other companies. I like Tim Cook a lot, but he needs to seriously take a look at his conflicting opinions.
    When and where has Tim Cook ever said Apple will not pay the taxes that it is required to?
    SpamSandwich
  • Reply 166 of 196
    alexis said:

    This is is why I'm a supporter of the National Sales Tax, with a pre-rebate to protect the poor.  

    www.fairtax.org

    --Lex
    Dude: you made my day; another FairTax proponent!!!!
    SpamSandwich
  • Reply 167 of 196
    toddzrx said:
    blitz1 said:
    BTW: the EU has been at peace for over 70 years, thanks to the EC/EU. That's a record.
    By all means, this fact alone has made the world a far better place.
    Correction: Europe has had the longest stretch of peace in its history since 1945 (over 70 years), thanks to the United States of America.  We occupied after WW2 and it's been at peace (not counting terrorism) ever since.
    Correction: The USA military were there chiefly to stop Russian aggression (for which we are all very grateful BTW). The EC/EU is there to help stop European countries fighting each other. 
  • Reply 168 of 196
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    All US troops should be pulled out of EU countries.

    Let them fend for themselves. 

    Screw 'em.




    designrSpamSandwich
  • Reply 169 of 196
    If I'm honest, I wish the US would just nuke the EU and be done with it.
  • Reply 170 of 196
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    If I'm honest, I wish the US would just nuke the EU and be done with it.
    We can just sit back and watch them collapse, as they are currently doing, and enjoy it, like I am doing!

    They are in so much trouble, and it's all their own doing. What a bunch of socialist dumbasses. :#


    designr
  • Reply 171 of 196
    Very interesting article by the former European Commissioner in The Guardian, saying publicly that the EU tax ruling is "fundamentally unfair" and that "EU member states have a sovereign right to determine their own tax laws, and state aid cannot be used to rewrite those rules. The current state-aid investigations into tax rulings appear to do exactly that."  https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/01/eu-state-aid-tax-avoidance-apple

    As might be expected, its readers are going berserk... :D
    edited September 2016 SpamSandwich
  • Reply 172 of 196
    apple ][ said:
    If I'm honest, I wish the US would just nuke the EU and be done with it.
    We can just sit back and watch them collapse, as they are currently doing, and enjoy it, like I am doing!

    They are in so much trouble, and it's all their own doing. What a bunch of socialist dumbasses. :#


    Your comments are simply juvenile. Who would you sell all your crappy McDonald's and Starbucks to if they weren't there?
  • Reply 173 of 196
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Your comments are simply juvenile. Who would you sell all your crappy McDonald's and Starbucks to if they weren't there?
    My comments are spot on and have time and time again proven to be correct more often than not.

    Socialists, globalists and SJWs might hate me and my comments, but I do not care about those losers. They can expect only one thing, and that is to get crushed. 
    edited September 2016
  • Reply 174 of 196
    apple ][ said:
    All US troops should be pulled out of EU countries.

    Let them fend for themselves. 

    Screw 'em.




    Yeah I'm sure the US wants to give up its military bases in stable, friendly countries. Are you 12 years old?
    big brother 84cnocbui
  • Reply 175 of 196
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Yeah I'm sure the US wants to give up its military bases in stable, friendly countries. Are you 12 years old?

    Some are not so stable, and some of them are not so friendly.

    Age is irrelevant, facts are relevant, reality is relevant.
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  • Reply 176 of 196
    So you're saying you don't believe in a level playing field for large and small companies?

    Small companies cannot afford the international accountants that exploit these loopholes.
    Then it's up to the country to put laws in place that don't have loopholes.  Stop moralizing.
    designr
  • Reply 177 of 196
    jpolster said:
    Apple generates profits in the EU and those profits have to be taxed properly (corporate Tax) somewhere.
    Spoken like a true EU socialist.  Blows my mind.
    designrSpamSandwich
  • Reply 178 of 196
    apple ][ said:
    Yeah I'm sure the US wants to give up its military bases in stable, friendly countries. Are you 12 years old?

    Some are not so stable, and some of them are not so friendly.

    Age is irrelevant, facts are relevant, reality is relevant.
    And your facts are? Most people are debating, sometimes emotionally, about tax. You're just making childish anti-European remarks that you haven't even thought through. The US isn't going to give up strategic military bases because of Apple. They want Apple to pay their fair share of tax too and this gives Apple more reason to do so.
    big brother 84
  • Reply 179 of 196
    toddzrx said:
    blitz1 said:
    BTW: the EU has been at peace for over 70 years, thanks to the EC/EU. That's a record.
    By all means, this fact alone has made the world a far better place.
    Correction: Europe has had the longest stretch of peace in its history since 1945 (over 70 years), thanks to the United States of America.  We occupied after WW2 and it's been at peace (not counting terrorism) ever since.
    Correction: The USA military were there chiefly to stop Russian aggression (for which we are all very grateful BTW). The EC/EU is there to help stop European countries fighting each other. 
    You really have a dim view of history, don't you?
  • Reply 180 of 196
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    apple ][ said:
    Yeah I'm sure the US wants to give up its military bases in stable, friendly countries. Are you 12 years old?

    Some are not so stable, and some of them are not so friendly.

    Age is irrelevant, facts are relevant, reality is relevant.
    And your facts are? Most people are debating, sometimes emotionally, about tax. You're just making childish anti-European remarks that you haven't even thought through. The US isn't going to give up strategic military bases because of Apple. They want Apple to pay their fair share of tax too and this gives Apple more reason to do so.
    I've thought things very through, and I have been anti-EU for many years now.

    And no, this isn't just about any alleged taxes. I see the entire greater picture.
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