It would be very sensible if Apple Stores were to log damage to machines and pass it on to the design team. While most of us are unlikely to try poking a pencil into a speaker or snapping our iBook trays, many of the machines will end up in schools.
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Funny you mention this. I just finished reading a long article about the standards Bang & Olufsen equipment has to meet, and the tests they run all the kit through to make sure it will survive wear and tear. All components are physically hit and dropped from certain distances on all sides, and damage is logged. This is done in and outside of shipping containers. For what you pay for it, I would certainly hope they're built well.
It was especially nice reading this after I just placed an order for a new pair of Beolab 1s
I like Belle's idea though, I don't know how much the design team thinks about durability of the things like keyboards and CD trays...
I suggest Apple recruit nuts from AppleInsider and other message boars to volunteer patrol the place. I will walk the store with a taser and ZAP any idiot who miss treats the beautiful equipent. People abuse stuff that they do not own and iots ridiculous.
A friends is a I.T. teacher at an Apple idstrict. The things the other teachers do to their machines. Its ridiculous. They would NEVER do it if they owned the machine. And don't go design flaw on me. PEANUT BUTTER! In the iBook CD tray.
Unfortunately the salespeople at most of these stores are little Matsu clones who would rather bash Macs than make a little extra cash.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes, let's all throw slot-loading drives at Matsu!
In my post I was referring to the kickbacks that employees get for selling a particular PC which are funded by the PC manufacturer itself, not the store. Some companies can afford to do this as they have such a low manufacturing costs or they have other departments that make up for the loss. I don't think this is right as it means employees pushing one product over all others regardless of whether or not its good for the customer. This is not the same as a commission though the same kind of problem can occur there as well if not implemented properly.
<strong>I like Belle's idea though, I don't know how much the design team thinks about durability of the things like keyboards and CD trays...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm certain that Apple has a fairly rigorous durability testing process already, but I'm also certain that the public can come up with all sorts of product abuses that testers don't replicate in labs.
No doubt they'll drop the stuff from great heights onto concrete floors, and make sure the lids of laptops don't flex when handled by chimpanzees, but do they test to see how much damage can be caused by a toddler with jelly-covered fingers or a high school student with a sharp pencil?
i for one really like gap clothes. granted, i always shop the clearance section at the gap, but I really like the store. Yes, the apple store looks just like it, what's the big deal? A local place that sells name brand stuff cheap just went out so i was able to get some banana republic corduroys for $16! That's the price of wal-mart pants, but these will last 3 times as long. Whoa, a little OT on my part. I think it would be reasonable if apple restriced access to the optical drives.
And you STILL wanted to buy it? Why would you do that to yourself? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
or a high school student with a sharp pencil? </strong><hr></blockquote>
How many people here have broken off graphite pencil tips stuck in their palms here? I do! I can see it through my skin. I considered digging it out with needle once, but wussed out. It didn't happen in high school though, it was more like the 2nd or 3rd grade.
[quote]Still wanted to buy it.[/QB]<hr></blockquote>
Hey, when YOU were young YOU never pined for a tacky car? Would you tell me you never once wanted a freaky looking car (ala volkswagon, subaru, nissan, pontiac, caddilac, hummer)
To answer your question (wise a$$) yes, I still wanted to buy one, but now I have another favorite 'weird car'. And next month I'll have another. And so on. We can dream can't we? And when I have enough cash I'll pick up one of them.
Call me a dreamer, but wouldn't it just be nice if people simply didn't feel the need to mess with (and mangle) things they have no business - or reason - doing?
How about people just not be malicious, boundary-pushing idiots? Any possibility of that happening?
Yeah, that's what I thought. Sigh...
We wouldn't even be having this conversation if the world wasn't overrun with Class A Shitheads and Dipsticks.
Large companies have to account for a certain amount of loss; if people don't steal, damage, or even defraud them to a degree, it would throw those projections way off, companies would make too much money, loss prevention people would lose their jobs... It could be disasterous for the economy! It's the same reason you should litter, it helps create a job, you don't want people to lose their jobs, do you?
<strong>To answer your question (wise a$$) yes, I still wanted to buy one, but now I have another favorite 'weird car'. And next month I'll have another. And so on. We can dream can't we? And when I have enough cash I'll pick up one of them. </strong><hr></blockquote>
lol Fair enough. I hope you know I was just teasing.
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It would be very sensible if Apple Stores were to log damage to machines and pass it on to the design team. While most of us are unlikely to try poking a pencil into a speaker or snapping our iBook trays, many of the machines will end up in schools.
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Funny you mention this. I just finished reading a long article about the standards Bang & Olufsen equipment has to meet, and the tests they run all the kit through to make sure it will survive wear and tear. All components are physically hit and dropped from certain distances on all sides, and damage is logged. This is done in and outside of shipping containers. For what you pay for it, I would certainly hope they're built well.
It was especially nice reading this after I just placed an order for a new pair of Beolab 1s
I like Belle's idea though, I don't know how much the design team thinks about durability of the things like keyboards and CD trays...
A friends is a I.T. teacher at an Apple idstrict. The things the other teachers do to their machines. Its ridiculous. They would NEVER do it if they owned the machine. And don't go design flaw on me. PEANUT BUTTER! In the iBook CD tray.
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Unfortunately the salespeople at most of these stores are little Matsu clones who would rather bash Macs than make a little extra cash.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes, let's all throw slot-loading drives at Matsu!
In my post I was referring to the kickbacks that employees get for selling a particular PC which are funded by the PC manufacturer itself, not the store. Some companies can afford to do this as they have such a low manufacturing costs or they have other departments that make up for the loss. I don't think this is right as it means employees pushing one product over all others regardless of whether or not its good for the customer. This is not the same as a commission though the same kind of problem can occur there as well if not implemented properly.
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In what way?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sterile stark white space, big photos of pristine perfect looking people, and uninformed sales staff.
It's not just the GAP, but also Banana Republic and even J.Crew.
It's a formulaic approach which I'm not saying doesn't work, but seems to lack soul.
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Sterile stark white space, big photos of pristine perfect looking people, and uninformed sales staff.
It's not just the GAP, but also Banana Republic and even J.Crew.
It's a formulaic approach which I'm not saying doesn't work, but seems to lack soul.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Millard Drexler, former CEO of the GAP, is on the board at Apple. Steve Jobs just resigned from the GAP's board about a month or two ago I believe?
This should explain the similarities.
That is, of course, if one didn't already know. <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />
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<strong>I like Belle's idea though, I don't know how much the design team thinks about durability of the things like keyboards and CD trays...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm certain that Apple has a fairly rigorous durability testing process already, but I'm also certain that the public can come up with all sorts of product abuses that testers don't replicate in labs.
No doubt they'll drop the stuff from great heights onto concrete floors, and make sure the lids of laptops don't flex when handled by chimpanzees, but do they test to see how much damage can be caused by a toddler with jelly-covered fingers or a high school student with a sharp pencil?
<strong>.........Little did they know that I already knew everything about the Azteck .........</strong><hr></blockquote>
And you STILL wanted to buy it? Why would you do that to yourself? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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It was especially nice reading this after I just placed an order for a new pair of Beolab 1s
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They are fantastic speakers, I love em and the Sound quality blows me away evertime I hear em
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And you STILL wanted to buy it? Why would you do that to yourself? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
I was thinking the same thing.
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or a high school student with a sharp pencil?
How many people here have broken off graphite pencil tips stuck in their palms here? I do! I can see it through my skin. I considered digging it out with needle once, but wussed out. It didn't happen in high school though, it was more like the 2nd or 3rd grade.
Hey, when YOU were young YOU never pined for a tacky car? Would you tell me you never once wanted a freaky looking car (ala volkswagon, subaru, nissan, pontiac, caddilac, hummer)
To answer your question (wise a$$) yes, I still wanted to buy one, but now I have another favorite 'weird car'. And next month I'll have another. And so on. We can dream can't we? And when I have enough cash I'll pick up one of them.
i'd take one over a Ford or Chevy blah blah SUV anyday
How about people just not be malicious, boundary-pushing idiots? Any possibility of that happening?
Yeah, that's what I thought. Sigh...
We wouldn't even be having this conversation if the world wasn't overrun with Class A Shitheads and Dipsticks.
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We wouldn't even be having this conversation if the world wasn't overrun with Class A Shitheads and Dipsticks.
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Why do you think I moved to New Zealand? Now I can deal with Class B and C Shitheads and Dipsticks. Remember, America is always #1!
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
<strong>It's the same reason you should litter, it helps create a job, you don't want people to lose their jobs, do you?
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Were you baked when you wrote this? Just curious.
<strong>To answer your question (wise a$$) yes, I still wanted to buy one, but now I have another favorite 'weird car'. And next month I'll have another. And so on. We can dream can't we? And when I have enough cash I'll pick up one of them.
lol Fair enough. I hope you know I was just teasing.
<strong>Were you baked when you wrote this? Just curious.</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />