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  • Reply 61 of 84
    spacekid said:
    kenc said:
    And what about tax policy? One of Hillary's economic advisors, Joe Stiglitz said "Here we have the largest corporation in capitalization not only in America, but in the world, bigger than GM was at its peak, and claiming that most of its profits originate from about a few hundred people working in Ireland — that’s a fraud ... Our current tax system encourages companies to keep their money abroad, opens up a vast loophole through what is called the transfer-pricing system that allows them not only to keep their money abroad but, effectively, to escape taxation." He seems to say that Apple is transferring US income to Ireland, which has never been shown to be the case, rather EU income has been transferred to Ireland. Are we sure we can trust the Clintons?
    And yet, that's a Clinton advisor, not Clinton herself. 

    Trump himself claimed Apple doesn't pay taxes, and on top of that says he will dictate that Apple moves its manufacturing to the US, which is simply impossible and the ravings of a cartoonish simpleton. 

    So really, who do you trust: a politician seeking to incrementally improve upon the status quo, or a charlatan con man lying and boasting and stroking off racist white supremacists?
    And Hillary says raising taxes on the rich and corporations will pay for all of the free things she wants which is impossible.
    I find the prospect of a Clinton presidency far more terrifying than Trump. I am seriously considering taking early retirement, selling all my stock and refuse to contribute further to the predatory state. The twisted logic of the socialists, progressives and collectivists have irretrievably damaged this country.
    yes, the twisted logic of equal civil rights for all, and closing unbalanced tax policies for the vey wealthy compared to the working class...horrible!
    How are "civil rights" even an issue? And "unbalanced tax policies"? LOL. Please. Everyone knows that taxes are unevenly applied because the wealthiest are already paying the most in taxes. If you want a "more fair" application of taxes, the FairTax ( see http://fairtax.org/faq ) is the way to go.
    edited September 2016
  • Reply 62 of 84
    mattinoz said:
    *Noting I say this as Australian not an American but as far as I can tell both our systems seem on the broken side.
    Dude, it ain't the systems that are broken.  People are.
  • Reply 63 of 84
    savetmay said:
    gtr said:
    It is with resounding sadness that I read this article and many of the posts that followed.

    I have learned so much recently and the world is not what I thought it was.

    America used to be such an incredible country. I thought it would always be that way. How ignorant I was.

    Unfortunately it is being destroyed by greed, stupidity and, ironically, the desire of many people to do, what they believe to be, the right thing.

    It is sad to see a country die and even sadder to see people fighting to make it happen. The irony of how this is occurring has not been lost on me.

    I never thought that good could be a bad thing, that intelligent people could act so incredibly foolish, or that attempting to help others could be so self-destructive.

    I hope Trump gets elected come November. Many of you will not understand why.

    At least with the wild card you will have a (small) chance. However, if people decide to try and fix what politicians over the decades have done to your country with yet another politician then, unfortunately, we all pretty much deserve what happen afterwards.

    America. War, and worse, is coming for you.

    And Trump will have nothing to do with it.

    I'm quite aware of how melodramatic that sounds. This statement is nothing compared to what will follow.

    Those who do not heed history are doomed to repeat it.
    Oh yes; if only there could be a revolution, America will be saved. /s

    That's what you mean by a "wild card"; burn the place down and start over, and no, I don't have a fucking clue why you would think that. 
    Those are just your thoughts. No one has to burn it down. It is already burning, Charlotte, NC, Just last week.

    During the debate itself, two people were shot in Chicago. Total of 3000 shootings this year alone in one city, of which president in power was the resident.

    For those who think they are at better place, this is coming to your city and town soon. This situation is result of decisions and policy of the current regime.

    Clinton will only continue that, and worst is yet to come if she is elected.
    SpamSandwichtallest skilgtrrbelize
  • Reply 64 of 84
    What on earth are these tech companies thinking?  Don't they know that Trump's 10 yr old kid is great at the cyber?   D
    As opposed to the candidate who claims to think you wipe a server with a rag? The one who illegally ran a server out of a bathroom? That was hacked multiple times? 
    Add pay to play to that. People those who give to foundation, they have access to secretary's office.
    tallest skilrbelize
  • Reply 65 of 84
    toddzrx said:
    mattinoz said:
    *Noting I say this as Australian not an American but as far as I can tell both our systems seem on the broken side.
    Dude, it ain't the systems that are broken.  People are.
    People have been the same since the beginning of recorded history. If people are given unchecked power or are allowed to dig in and use political systems for their benefit, they'll do it. Term limits across the board are an excellent start to preventing systemic corruption.
  • Reply 66 of 84
    volcanvolcan Posts: 1,789member
    slingwing said:
    During the debate itself, two people were shot in Chicago. Total of 3000 shootings this year alone in one city, of which president in power was the resident.

    For those who think they are at better place, this is coming to your city and town soon. This situation is result of decisions and policy of the current regime.
    Right because Obama was actively passing out loaded weapons to gang members in Chicago. His policy that everyone in America should be armed is obviously the main problem.
    ronndasanman69hmmbaconstangsingularity
  • Reply 67 of 84
    tmaytmay Posts: 3,833member
    volcan said:
    How's the real estate market in New Zealand?
    Shit, like everywhere else in the world, since the problems of 2008 were never fixed.
    tmay said:
    Donald, is that you?
    I know this new software is a pain to multiquote, but it still helps to do it. I’m not entirely sure what sections you’re replying to, below.
    Google this…
    In… what respect?
    who won the debate?
    In terms of presentation, it was fairly close, but you can’t escape Hillary’s treason, and you can’t deny the moderator was biased (there’s a video of only his statements; notice he asked her zero questions and made zero corrections).
    Not many showing a Trump win; why is that?
    Because you need to check your eyes?

    Real polls vs online polls, quality difference, but more to the point, you stated that there wasn't any source that gave Hillary the win. 

    Here's a source on the details of Trump supporters "freeping" the polls;

    http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/trump-clinton-debate-online-polls-4chan-the-donald/
    edited September 2016 ronntallest skilbaconstang
  • Reply 68 of 84
    mobird said:
    Clinton is just trying to keep her emails from the public. What a corrupt soul.
    Who volunteers their emails for public perusal? You? Has Trump? Do we have an archive of every communication Bush made? Another other president ever, apart from some Nixon recordings?

    What an absurd thing to even suggest. Are all your emails online and open to the public? Might there be some embarrassing line or two in the 50,000 emails we now routinely generate?  
    dasanman69baconstang
  • Reply 69 of 84

    hungover said:
    "Apple's chief executive Tim Cook donated $50,000 to co-host an event that brought in more than $2,700 from 375 attendees."

    Is that a typo?

    If not Cook paid $133 per head to convince the attendees to stump up $7.20 each.
    Attendees each contributed at least $2700, so around $1 million total. 
    ronnbaconstang
  • Reply 70 of 84
    mobird said:
    Clinton is just trying to keep her emails from the public. What a corrupt soul.
    Who volunteers their emails for public perusal? You? Has Trump? Do we have an archive of every communication Bush made? Another other president ever, apart from some Nixon recordings?

    What an absurd thing to even suggest. Are all your emails online and open to the public? Might there be some embarrassing line or two in the 50,000 emails we now routinely generate?  
    Clinton was in a position to know better. Let's check with Colin Powell  (the guy she claimed "advised" her about a home email server) about this:

    https://theintercept.com/2016/09/13/colin-powell-emails/


  • Reply 71 of 84
    People have been the same since the beginning of recorded history.
    I will say that his comment has some merit, and it’s important to recognize the efficacy of the Constitution of the United States WHEN ENFORCED. It hasn’t been enforced for a length of time that nearly everyone will disagree with me about, but that’s the state of things. We need an amendment or five to really lock things down. I think I may have posted them before… The point is not to throw out the Constitution when the revolution comes. You’ll hear extremely loud cries for that to happen–arrest those voices. They’re the enemy.
    tmay said:
    Real polls vs online polls
    So what’s a “real” poll, then. I’d love to hear the distinction. The ones that have been proven to be weighted toward the Democrats, you mean?
    Here's a source on the details of Trump supporters "freeping" the polls
    And given that we have hard proof of Clinton paying people to shill for her online, I’d say that the digital polls are perfectly representative of reality, as whatever delusions (or reality) are said to happen on the right are also really (or delusionally) happening on the left, too. You know she has given up on Ohio, right?
    Who volunteers their emails for public perusal? You? Has Trump?
    Irrelevant. Neither he nor Trump are public officials. Public officials have their communications subject to FOIA requests. Clinton illegally used the server for the express purpose of circumventing FOIA requests. She has committed multiple felonies in doing so. You fail to comprehend the discussion, or you fail to admit to the topic.

    edited September 2016 gtrSpamSandwichrbelize
  • Reply 72 of 84
      Term limits across the board are an excellent start to preventing systemic corruption.
    Hear hear.  Personally I'd prefer a return to the gold standard so that our money actually means something, and keep government from printing at will.
    tallest skilSpamSandwich
  • Reply 73 of 84
    mobird said:
    Clinton is just trying to keep her emails from the public. What a corrupt soul.
    Who volunteers their emails for public perusal? You? Has Trump? Do we have an archive of every communication Bush made? Another other president ever, apart from some Nixon recordings?

    What an absurd thing to even suggest. Are all your emails online and open to the public? Might there be some embarrassing line or two in the 50,000 emails we now routinely generate?  
    Hello classified info!  As a prior member of the Air Force that dealt with (and still does in my current position in the private sector) classified materials day and day out, using an unsecured, off the books server for this purpose is a YUGE breach of law.  Why Comey has not prosecuted Clinton is simply beyond me.  I've seen members of the military and civilians working for the DoD go down for far, far less.
    tallest skilSpamSandwich
  • Reply 74 of 84
    To All,

    It defeats the purpose of me putting certain misogynistic racists in this forum on my ignore list if you reply and quote them in your posts. Please stop.

    And to all of you criticizing Trump for having empty phrases without any substance as his answers during the debate, you just don't get it. His plans are a SECRET! Plan to defeat ISIS? Secret. How he will make Mexico pay for a wall? Secret. Economic plan? Secret. Way to restore the show Law & Order? Secret. Tax returns? SECRET!

    So just be quiet and vote for him! He's smart! Just look how well he knows the US tax code!
    edited September 2016 ronnbaconstang
  • Reply 75 of 84
    focher said:
    And to all of you criticizing Trump for having empty phrases without any substance as his answers during the debate, you just don't get it. His plans are a SECRET! Plan to defeat ISIS? Secret. How he will make Mexico pay for a wall? Secret. Economic plan? Secret. Way to restore the show Law & Order? Secret. Tax returns? SECRET!
    Yep, tell your enemies what you’re going to do. Great plan, genius. Patton used that against the nazis, you know. They never saw him coming.
    gtrSpamSandwich
  • Reply 76 of 84
    focher said:
    And to all of you criticizing Trump for having empty phrases without any substance as his answers during the debate, you just don't get it. His plans are a SECRET! Plan to defeat ISIS? Secret. How he will make Mexico pay for a wall? Secret. Economic plan? Secret. Way to restore the show Law & Order? Secret. Tax returns? SECRET!
    Yep, tell your enemies what you’re going to do. Great plan, genius. Patton used that against the nazis, you know. They never saw him coming.
    I'm totally sure it never occurred to Hillary to mislead ISIL.  As Secretary of State I'm sure she always told everyone exactly what our plan is.

    I'd bet the Donald and ISIL are probably about even on the gullibility scale.
    ronn
  • Reply 77 of 84
    baconstang said:
    As Secretary of State I'm sure she always told everyone exactly what our plan is.
    She told them the date of troop embarkment, so yes.
    SpamSandwich
  • Reply 78 of 84
    tmaytmay Posts: 3,833member
    People have been the same since the beginning of recorded history.
    I will say that his comment has some merit, and it’s important to recognize the efficacy of the Constitution of the United States WHEN ENFORCED. It hasn’t been enforced for a length of time that nearly everyone will disagree with me about, but that’s the state of things. We need an amendment or five to really lock things down. I think I may have posted them before… The point is not to throw out the Constitution when the revolution comes. You’ll hear extremely loud cries for that to happen–arrest those voices. They’re the enemy.
    tmay said:
    Real polls vs online polls
    So what’s a “real” poll, then. I’d love to hear the distinction. The ones that have been proven to be weighted toward the Democrats, you mean?
    Here's a source on the details of Trump supporters "freeping" the polls
    And given that we have hard proof of Clinton paying people to shill for her online, I’d say that the digital polls are perfectly representative of reality, as whatever delusions (or reality) are said to happen on the right are also really (or delusionally) happening on the left, too. You know she has given up on Ohio, right?
    Who volunteers their emails for public perusal? You? Has Trump?
    Irrelevant. Neither he nor Trump are public officials. Public officials have their communications subject to FOIA requests. Clinton illegally used the server for the express purpose of circumventing FOIA requests. She has committed multiple felonies in doing so. You fail to comprehend the discussion, or you fail to admit to the topic.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-online-debate-polls-trump-drudge-2016-9

    Well, even Fox knows the difference; I'll let them explain it to you.
    baconstang
  • Reply 79 of 84
    tmay said:
    Well, even Fox knows the difference; I'll let them explain it to you.
    And still they explain nothing, as they give no standard for ‘editorial rigor’ (they have none). Ah, well.
  • Reply 80 of 84
    spice-boy said:
    Bring jobs back (from where?)
    And you say his thoughts are underdeveloped?
    stop companies from leaving by "threatening" them with import duties
    Yeah, they’re called tariffs. Every sane country has them.
    'trickle down economics”
    Thanks for the leftist dialectic. It’s a great way to pick out people who have no idea what they’re talking about.
    decimated the middle class more than any other single government policy
    lol, the Federal Reserve’s demands to decouple currency from the money that backed it would disagree. The cloth strips in your pocket aren’t money.
    Our future does not lay with 20th century manufacturing jobs
    No one said it did.
    but hi tech
    So 21st century manufacturing jobs.
    solar and other alternative energies
    Nothing beats nuclear. Solar kills people in the winter.
    and vastly improving our education system.
    Which is why he’s going to force universities to take the responsibility for student loans.

    Wow, I will not say which if any political party you associate with but I will say you rather insults commenters here than make your point with (researched) facts or alternative ideas. It is cheap and easy to insult people, imply they are stupid than actual say something positive because another bully as yourself will dump on you and pick comments out of context to ridicule. You sir are a real downer and add nothing but hate and resentment
    edited September 2016 singularitybaconstang
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