We recently read about a battery test that showed the iPhone had the worst battery life. Of course many real world users disputed that but it’s starting to look like the race to get better battery life caused Samsung to cut corners, push engineering over the edge. Will this be the issue that makes Samsung Jump The Shark?
Some reports suggest they were racing to beat Apple October reveal of iPhone 7. They are so bent on beating Apple they released a device not ready for the public. Shame on them.
All Samsung phones need to be confiscated from all flights. PERIOD.
They need to be collected and stored in an air tight/fire proof safe for the entire flight.
These phones are as dangerous as dynamite. Why the HELL is the govt not doing anything?
Many people don't know Android phones are much superior to iPhones. Google Android phones are capable of doing multi-tasking even in the background. They think if Android phones are not in use then there is no danger of overheating. Apparently Samsung proved the government and the media are idiots.
Many people don't know Twist-Up is superior to 7-Up, Dr. Salt is superior to Dr. Pepper, Froot Hoops is superior to Froot Loops and fools gold is superior to gold.
All Samsung phones need to be confiscated from all flights. PERIOD.
They need to be collected and stored in an air tight/fire proof safe for the entire flight.
These phones are as dangerous as dynamite. Why the HELL is the govt not doing anything?
Many people don't know Android phones are much superior to iPhones. Google Android phones are capable of doing multi-tasking even in the background. They think if Android phones are not in use then there is no danger of overheating. Apparently Samsung proved the government and the media are idiots.
Android is NOT superior to iOS even with background multi tasking. And the phone in question was powered off. If android is actually running in the background when a phone is powered down, then I will admit that android is truly superior, in that it can run without a power source. And if the OS is still running utilizing the battery when a phone is powered down, it is a massive OS design flaw. It would mean the only way really to shut phone down would be to fully exhaust the battery. So much for saving the battery on an Android phone when it is powered down. The OS is still running anyway and performing multiple tasks draining the battery so that when it is powered up, half the battery life is gone.
Fast charging lithium batteries is fraught with risk anyhow. It was even a problem for Boeing's 787.
Android much superior to iOS. LOL. That's a good one.
I am just sarcastic . Because I heard many Fandroids bragging this. This guy could be just turning off his Note 7. Power off is not the same as shut off.
Seems it takes something pretty drastic like this to get people to swap from such terrible Samsung phones. Had someone at work today complaining that their Samsung phone is now useless after having it about a year. When I said 1-2 years for a phone like that isn't bad their response was "Yeah but I had my iPhone 4 for over 3 years when I got the Samsung and there was still nothing wrong with the iPhone". When I pointed out that was because it was made by Apple and not Samsung they got angry and defensive. They are going to go buy themselves a new Samsung....
Had someone at work today complaining that their Samsung phone is now useless after having it about a year. When I said 1-2 years for a phone like that isn't bad their response was "Yeah but I had my iPhone 4 for over 3 years when I got the Samsung and there was still nothing wrong with the iPhone". When I pointed out that was because it was made by Apple and not Samsung they got angry and defensive. They are going to go buy themselves a new Samsung....
Ha. Like my ex-girlfriend who always complained iPhone was too expensive and she will never use one but in 4 years she replaced her Galaxy phone 3 times. 3 phones bought new. In that period my wife iPhone 4 was still going strong. (she's even reluctant to replace it with iPhone 6 eventually)
All Samsung phones need to be confiscated from all flights. PERIOD.
They need to be collected and stored in an air tight/fire proof safe for the entire flight.
These phones are as dangerous as dynamite. Why the HELL is the govt not doing anything?
Many people don't know Android phones are much superior to iPhones. Google Android phones are capable of doing multi-tasking even in the background. They think if Android phones are not in use then there is no danger of overheating. Apparently Samsung proved the government and the media are idiots.
Android is NOT superior to iOS even with background multi tasking. And the phone in question was powered off. If android is actually running in the background when a phone is powered down, then I will admit that android is truly superior, in that it can run without a power source. And if the OS is still running utilizing the battery when a phone is powered down, it is a massive OS design flaw. It would mean the only way really to shut phone down would be to fully exhaust the battery. So much for saving the battery on an Android phone when it is powered down. The OS is still running anyway and performing multiple tasks draining the battery so that when it is powered up, half the battery life is gone.
Fast charging lithium batteries is fraught with risk anyhow. It was even a problem for Boeing's 787.
Android much superior to iOS. LOL. That's a good one.
I am just sarcastic . Because I heard many Fandroids bragging this. This guy could be just turning off his Note 7. Power off is not the same as shut off.
Now there's something that should be repeated on the planes for emphasis! Power off is NOT the same as just turning off the screen.
Other articles online are stating this was a replacement phone, deemed to be safe by Samsung.
Even if it was, if the airline still had a stated policy of Galaxy phones being turned off and unplugged, then the passenger could be held responsible by Southwest and the other passengers.
Exactly! I don't want to hear what Misty Whitaker has to say. I want to hear what the owner of the phone has to say. He/ She should be held responsible as far as this incident is concerned.
Samsung should be held accountable on a wider scale later for the recall/ replacement based on whether this was a "safe" phone or not. Conflicting stories right now about this.
A very serious, honest question, with absolutely no intention of casting any aspersions. I am merely bringing up the (vague) likelihood of pathological behavior. Is it foolish to worry, given all the attention this is getting, that someone -- and we know the extent of anti-Apple virulence out there -- might be tempted to tamper with an iPhone to make waves? If so, how could Apple possibly protect against something like that?
1. Apple would ask for the device to see what went wrong and would find out that it was tampered with.
2. It would still be a one-off incident. The person doing it would tamper 1 phone or even 2, but not so many that it would be as widespread as Samsung's Note problem. Not unless the person was the CEO of Samsung!
A very serious, honest question, with absolutely no intention of casting any aspersions. I am merely bringing up the (vague) likelihood of pathological behavior. Is it foolish to worry, given all the attention this is getting, that someone -- and we know the extent of anti-Apple virulence out there -- might be tempted to tamper with an iPhone to make waves? If so, how could Apple possibly protect against something like that?
Sadly, the simple, but unacceptable, tradeoff would be to have a Govt. Regulation that bans taking any phone, computer or electronic device (regardless of brand) on any public transportation or viaduct (e.g., Golden Gate Bridge), public building, etc.
A very serious, honest question, with absolutely no intention of casting any aspersions. I am merely bringing up the (vague) likelihood of pathological behavior. Is it foolish to worry, given all the attention this is getting, that someone -- and we know the extent of anti-Apple virulence out there -- might be tempted to tamper with an iPhone to make waves? If so, how could Apple possibly protect against something like that?
1. Apple would ask for the device to see what went wrong and would find out that it was tampered with.
2. It would still be a one-off incident. The person doing it would tamper 1 phone or even 2, but not so many that it would be as widespread as Samsung's Note problem. Not unless the person was the CEO of Samsung!
1. If it exploded and brought down an airplane carrying thousands of gallons of jet fuel -- it might be a bit difficult to provide the device to Apple for analysis.
2. Why would it be a one-off incident -- it could be the weapon of choice -- what if terrorists use a phone instead of a belt full of explosives?
The scary thing, on planes, is that you don't need any dynamite, etc. -- an exploding phone is just the fuse...
An onboard fire that injures of kills people will bring some draconian rules that will likely apply to a lot of electronics. Unlike the "no cell phone usage" that used to apply, you'd have an actual data point that the devices interfere with the safety of flight. There was exactly *zero* evidence that the cell phone radios could interfere with avionics, yet there were rules prohibiting their use for claimed "interference with the safety of the flight."
The NTSB would like to prohibit all batteries on aircraft. In fact, shipments of LiOH batteries were classified as hazmat, yet you can have them in checked bags and onboard. Trace an onboard fire to a cell phone known to be defective, that was not in compliance with an airline policy...that then kills a few people... No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes.
An onboard fire that injures of kills people will bring some draconian rules that will likely apply to a lot of electronics. Unlike the "no cell phone usage" that used to apply, you'd have an actual data point that the devices interfere with the safety of flight. There was exactly *zero* evidence that the cell phone radios could interfere with avionics, yet there were rules prohibiting their use for claimed "interference with the safety of the flight."
The NTSB would like to prohibit all batteries on aircraft. In fact, shipments of LiOH batteries were classified as hazmat, yet you can have them in checked bags and onboard. Trace an onboard fire to a cell phone known to be defective, that was not in compliance with an airline policy...that then kills a few people... No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes.
Nevermind the liability to Samesung.
"No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes."
Yes, that certainly could happen -- not only for airlines, but for busses, trains, etc. But, there's an opportunity here...
An onboard fire that injures of kills people will bring some draconian rules that will likely apply to a lot of electronics. Unlike the "no cell phone usage" that used to apply, you'd have an actual data point that the devices interfere with the safety of flight. There was exactly *zero* evidence that the cell phone radios could interfere with avionics, yet there were rules prohibiting their use for claimed "interference with the safety of the flight."
The NTSB would like to prohibit all batteries on aircraft. In fact, shipments of LiOH batteries were classified as hazmat, yet you can have them in checked bags and onboard. Trace an onboard fire to a cell phone known to be defective, that was not in compliance with an airline policy...that then kills a few people... No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes.
Nevermind the liability to Samesung.
"No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes."
Yes, that certainly could happen -- not only for airlines, but for busses, trains, etc. But, there's an opportunity here...
Bring on the handcranked computers, iPads, iPhones and Watches.
An onboard fire that injures of kills people will bring some draconian rules that will likely apply to a lot of electronics. Unlike the "no cell phone usage" that used to apply, you'd have an actual data point that the devices interfere with the safety of flight. There was exactly *zero* evidence that the cell phone radios could interfere with avionics, yet there were rules prohibiting their use for claimed "interference with the safety of the flight."
The NTSB would like to prohibit all batteries on aircraft. In fact, shipments of LiOH batteries were classified as hazmat, yet you can have them in checked bags and onboard. Trace an onboard fire to a cell phone known to be defective, that was not in compliance with an airline policy...that then kills a few people... No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes.
Nevermind the liability to Samesung.
"No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes."
Yes, that certainly could happen -- not only for airlines, but for busses, trains, etc. But, there's an opportunity here...
Bring on the handcranked computers, iPads, iPhones and Watches.
Well...
You have a long flight during which, you need to do some work on your iPad and/or stay in touch with your iPhone.
But the FAA has banned bringing any tablet or phone on to any public airlines!
What if the airlines provided iPhones and iPads (pre-approved) for use during flight?
When you make your flight reservation, you also reserve an iPad and/or iPhone.
before you leave for the airport, you prepare by synching your iDevices (encrypted, of course) to the airline's cloud (provided by Apple or IBM)
After passing security, you go to check-in -- where you are issued the iDevices you reserved (These iDevices have been secured, then never leave the secure area at either end of the flight)
While waiting to board, you can, optionally, synch the airline iDevices with your Cloud data (full or partial)
or, you can access your Cloud data, as needed during the flight
any work you do is stored on the Cloud
on landing, you can wipe your synched apps/data from the iDevices
if you forget, no matter your apps/data are encrypted and will be removed by the airline in preparation for the next user
Then on to the hotel, rinse and repeat.
Not much more difficult than using a computer in a library.
An onboard fire that injures of kills people will bring some draconian rules that will likely apply to a lot of electronics. Unlike the "no cell phone usage" that used to apply, you'd have an actual data point that the devices interfere with the safety of flight. There was exactly *zero* evidence that the cell phone radios could interfere with avionics, yet there were rules prohibiting their use for claimed "interference with the safety of the flight."
The NTSB would like to prohibit all batteries on aircraft. In fact, shipments of LiOH batteries were classified as hazmat, yet you can have them in checked bags and onboard. Trace an onboard fire to a cell phone known to be defective, that was not in compliance with an airline policy...that then kills a few people... No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes.
Nevermind the liability to Samesung.
"No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes."
Yes, that certainly could happen -- not only for airlines, but for busses, trains, etc. But, there's an opportunity here...
not going to happen
Most people who make these laws own iPhones
All it takes is one incident (or attempt) to bring down a plane -- that can be traced to a modified electronic device brought on board by a customer. Not just iPhones but any phone, tablet, computer or watch.
Sadly, I suspect it will happen (or be attempted), and we will need to adjust our lives to prepare for the ensuing regulations.
An onboard fire that injures of kills people will bring some draconian rules that will likely apply to a lot of electronics. Unlike the "no cell phone usage" that used to apply, you'd have an actual data point that the devices interfere with the safety of flight. There was exactly *zero* evidence that the cell phone radios could interfere with avionics, yet there were rules prohibiting their use for claimed "interference with the safety of the flight."
The NTSB would like to prohibit all batteries on aircraft. In fact, shipments of LiOH batteries were classified as hazmat, yet you can have them in checked bags and onboard. Trace an onboard fire to a cell phone known to be defective, that was not in compliance with an airline policy...that then kills a few people... No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes.
Nevermind the liability to Samesung.
"No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes."
Yes, that certainly could happen -- not only for airlines, but for busses, trains, etc. But, there's an opportunity here...
not going to happen
Most people who make these laws own iPhones
All it takes is one incident (or attempt) to bring down a plane -- that can be traced to a modified electronic device brought on board by a customer. Not just iPhones but any phone, tablet, computer or watch.
Sadly, I suspect it will happen (or be attempted), and we will need to adjust our lives to prepare for the ensuing regulations.
Most people that make these laws fly on their own airplanes.
Fun game: next time you see someone with a Note 7 on your flight, tell the flight crew there's a person on the flight with an explosive device. Tape the hilarity on your iPhone. Post video online. Profit.
WTF with these signs in the airport that say "see something? Say something!" Sure sure.
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Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane
Ha. Like my ex-girlfriend who always complained iPhone was too expensive and she will never use one but in 4 years she replaced her Galaxy phone 3 times. 3 phones bought new. In that period my wife iPhone 4 was still going strong. (she's even reluctant to replace it with iPhone 6 eventually)
Exactly! I don't want to hear what Misty Whitaker has to say. I want to hear what the owner of the phone has to say. He/ She should be held responsible as far as this incident is concerned.
Samsung should be held accountable on a wider scale later for the recall/ replacement based on whether this was a "safe" phone or not. Conflicting stories right now about this.
1. Apple would ask for the device to see what went wrong and would find out that it was tampered with.
2. It would still be a one-off incident. The person doing it would tamper 1 phone or even 2, but not so many that it would be as widespread as Samsung's Note problem. Not unless the person was the CEO of Samsung!
1. If it exploded and brought down an airplane carrying thousands of gallons of jet fuel -- it might be a bit difficult to provide the device to Apple for analysis.
2. Why would it be a one-off incident -- it could be the weapon of choice -- what if terrorists use a phone instead of a belt full of explosives?
The scary thing, on planes, is that you don't need any dynamite, etc. -- an exploding phone is just the fuse...
The NTSB would like to prohibit all batteries on aircraft. In fact, shipments of LiOH batteries were classified as hazmat, yet you can have them in checked bags and onboard. Trace an onboard fire to a cell phone known to be defective, that was not in compliance with an airline policy...that then kills a few people... No computers, cell phone (or apple watches?) allowed on airlines even in checked bags? Yikes.
Nevermind the liability to Samesung.
Yes, that certainly could happen -- not only for airlines, but for busses, trains, etc.
But, there's an opportunity here...
You have a long flight during which, you need to do some work on your iPad and/or stay in touch with your iPhone.
But the FAA has banned bringing any tablet or phone on to any public airlines!
What if the airlines provided iPhones and iPads (pre-approved) for use during flight?
When you make your flight reservation, you also reserve an iPad and/or iPhone.
Then on to the hotel, rinse and repeat.
Not much more difficult than using a computer in a library.
Sadly, I suspect it will happen (or be attempted), and we will need to adjust our lives to prepare for the ensuing regulations.
Fun game: next time you see someone with a Note 7 on your flight, tell the flight crew there's a person on the flight with an explosive device. Tape the hilarity on your iPhone. Post video online. Profit.
WTF with these signs in the airport that say "see something? Say something!" Sure sure.