Tim Cook included in early list of potential VP candidates for Clinton campaign

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  • Reply 41 of 62

    sdw2001 said:


    What are you...20 years old in your 1st semester of economics?  
    Your snotty comment is inappropriate.  There is some argument for Apple going private-- in the sense that the markets are clearly way undervaluing it.  Being in this state risks them being taken over -- though they are pretty expensive for that-- we have already seen some runs at them by "activist shareholders". 
    gtr
  • Reply 42 of 62
    calicali Posts: 3,494member
    apple ][ said:
    foggyhill said:
    Give me cycling break, Breitbarts guy runs the god damn Trump campaign and besides extreme xenophobia and misogyny and sucking the tit of every conspiracy, I don't see another side
    Hillary, represents extreme racism, extreme support for terrorists, extreme anti-Americanism, extreme pedophilia, extreme rapism, extreme criminality, extreme fraud, extreme deception, extreme corruption, extreme sickness, extreme voter fraud, extreme anti-second amendment, extreme anti-first amendment and extreme extremism.
    Extreme Trump supporter. 

    I don't know who's crazier Trump or his little minions
  • Reply 43 of 62
    thedba said:
    extreme racism:  Not really unless talking about the Democratic race of 2008.
    So… Not really except yes really. Fucking doublethink. Clear your head.
    extreme support for terrorists: …depends on who is terrorizing who.
    They. Us. That’s why it was said.
    extreme anti-Americanism:  Ehhhhh!!! WTF????
    Two counts of treason, a dozen felonies, and illegally accepting donations from foreign bodies, appointing the highest bidder to public office.
    extreme racism: More proof about magic mushroom consumption.
    On your part, apparently, because you not only already covered that one, you ADMITTED TO IT.
    extreme fraud, extreme deception: These two go together. But I would say it’s politics as usual. 
    And so it’s somehow excusable?
    extreme voter fraud: Sure but that’s the DNC making sure that the right candidate (her) makes it through and the the wrong one (Bernie) doesn't.
    Did you seriously just excuse a fucking felony?!
     As for the Donald, he's just low hanging fruit. No voter fraud necessary to defeat that. 
    You’re in for a fun November.
    extreme anti-second amendment: Just another wing nut thinking some lib'rul is gonna come and take aways me guns.

    You have absolutely no argument and no refutation to the claim, and she has explicitly stated that’s exactly what she is going to do. Go fuck yourself, traitor.

     Hillary is no liberal by any definition. 

    Holy fucking shit, the liberal foundation of projectionism is fucking universal. You guys just can’t fucking get away from it, can you? What the fuck was that about magic mushrooms? Open a goddamn dictionary.

    gtrbestkeptsecretrbelize
  • Reply 44 of 62
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
     As for the Donald, he's just low hanging fruit. No voter fraud necessary to defeat that. 
    You’re in for a fun November.
    Ain't that the truth.

    Hillarity will not be ensuing.
    edited October 2016 rbelize
  • Reply 45 of 62
    If Cook was the VP I'd actually consider voting for the Dems
  • Reply 46 of 62
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    If Cook was the VP I'd actually consider voting for the Dems
    Then you'd be voting for a party who sort people into 'food groups' of race and gender when considering them:

    Hispanics:
    Javier Becerra, Julian Castro, Eric Garcetti, Tom Perez and Ken Salazar.

    Women:
    Tammy Baldwin, Kirsten Gillibrand, Amy Klobuchar, Claire McCaskill, Jeanne Shaheen, Debbie Stabenow and Elizabeth Warren.

    White men:
    Michael Bennet, Sherrod Brown, Martin Heinreich, Tim Kaine, Terry McAuliffe, Chris Murphy and Tom Vilsack

    African-Americans:
    Steve Benjamin, Cory Booker, Andrew Gillum, Eric Holder, Deval Patrick, Kasim Reed and Anthony Foxx.

    Military:
    John Allen, Bill McCraven and Mike Mullen.

    Private sector:
    Mary Barra, Michael Bloomberg, Ursula Burns, Tim Cook, Bill Gates, Melinda Gates, Muhtar Kent, Judith Rodin and Howard Schultz.

    Democratic socialists:
    Bernie Sanders.

    **********
    From:[email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Date: 2016-03-17 17:21
    Subject: 

    Ok, I can breathe again! Congrats on a fabulous night. I am feeling like it's possible to get back to the longer term again. Cheryl and I met with Jim Hamilton on Friday to discuss lawyers who can help do the research and vetting that I outlined in the VP vet memo we discussed. We also met with Marc Elias to get his input on firms that have already provided substantial volunteer lawyer assistance and to get prepared to execute non-disclosure agreements with anyone we involve in the process.

    We put together the attached notional teams of “report writers” (confidential profiles/public record vet) and “vettors” (deep-dive/oppo-book), and want to run it by you before we execute on the list. Let me know if there are people you would like to see added or removed before we begin the process.

    Cheryl, Robby, Jake, Huma, Jennifer and I also did a first cut of people to consider for VP. I have organized names in rough food groups.

    Javier Becerra
    Julian Castro
    Eric Garcetti
    Tom Perez
    Ken Salazar

    Tammy Baldwin
    Kirsten Gillibrand
    Amy Klobuchar
    Claire McKaskill
    Jeanne Shaheen
    Debbie Stabenow
    Elizabeth Warren

    Michael Bennet
    Sherrod Brown
    Martin Heinreich
    Tim Kaine
    Terry McAuliffe
    Chris Murphy
    Tom Vilsack

    Steve Benjamin
    Corey Booker
    Andrew Gillum
    Eric Holder
    Deval Patrick
    Kasim Reed
    Anthony Foxx

    John Allen
    Bill McCraven
    Mike Mullen

    Mary Barra
    Michael Bloomberg
    Ursula Burns
    Tim Cook
    Bill Gates
    Melinda Gates
    Muhtar Kent
    Judith Rodin
    Howard Schultz

    Bernie Sanders

    **********

    Original email from Hillary's campaign can be found here:

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15616
    edited October 2016 tallest skilrbelize
  • Reply 47 of 62
    hmmhmm Posts: 3,405member
    gtr said:
    Clinton and Cook?

    They'd be like orange juice and toothpaste together.

    For those who like to hear both sides of a story, go to www.breitbart.com on a regular basis to find out why.
    You may want to read their sources. They often completely contradict the things that they cite without adding new information or anything beyond simple conjecture. I wouldn't call that a strong news source.
    edited October 2016 singularity
  • Reply 48 of 62
    I think it really is a choice of dooms for you Americans this November. But, damn!, I love reading TS's posts!!
    rbelize
  • Reply 49 of 62
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    hmm said:
    gtr said:
    Clinton and Cook?

    They'd be like orange juice and toothpaste together.

    For those who like to hear both sides of a story, go to www.breitbart.com on a regular basis to find out why.
    You may want to read their sources. They often completely contradict the things that they cite without adding new information or anything beyond simple conjecture. I wouldn't call that a strong news source.
    Actually I've found the opposite to be true.

    You'll find far more inaccurate, badly-researched, biased data on any of the mainstream media network channels, so much so that I personally have come to regard them as almost a complete waste or time. I am not alone in this finding.

    And as Apple fans we all know that to be true. For how many years have we seen this same reporting about Android being superior to Apple?

    The warning signs have been there for years. 

    Ignore it, and be misled and uninformed, at your peril.
    rbelize
  • Reply 50 of 62
    thedbathedba Posts: 685member

    You have absolutely no argument and no refutation to the claim, and she has explicitly stated that’s exactly what she is going to do. Go fuck yourself, traitor.

    Holy fucking shit, the liberal foundation of projectionism is fucking universal. You guys just can’t fucking get away from it, can you? What the fuck was that about magic mushrooms? Open a goddamn dictionary.

    I'll respond to just two of your statements. 

    1) Really mature of you. Way to open up a dialogue. 
    2) Traitor? I'm not a US citizen. Try harder next time junior. 
    3) US surrealism never ceases to amaze. What you guys call liberalism (the Clintons?) is what most of the rest of the world would call the right, maybe even the far right. 

    But go on thinking any Democrat is going to take away your guns. Just like Barack Obama did, ...... Oh yeah he didn't. 
    And keep on holding on to antiquated concepts like the 2nd amendment. You know it was written when muskets was the sophisticated arm of the day. 

    singularity
  • Reply 51 of 62
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    thedba said:

    You have absolutely no argument and no refutation to the claim, and she has explicitly stated that’s exactly what she is going to do. Go fuck yourself, traitor.

    Holy fucking shit, the liberal foundation of projectionism is fucking universal. You guys just can’t fucking get away from it, can you? What the fuck was that about magic mushrooms? Open a goddamn dictionary.

    But go on thinking any Democrat is going to take away your guns. Just like Barack Obama did, ...... Oh yeah he didn't. 


    16 October 2015
    Keene State College

    Clinton suggests that by using a buyback to confiscate guns “the [Australian] government was able to curtail the supply and set a different standard for gun purchases in the future.” She went on to say “it would be worth considering doing it on the national level” here.



    The second amendment was created specifically with the intention of supporting the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state.
    tallest skilrbelize
  • Reply 52 of 62
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    gtr said:
    thedba said:

    You have absolutely no argument and no refutation to the claim, and she has explicitly stated that’s exactly what she is going to do. Go fuck yourself, traitor.

    Holy fucking shit, the liberal foundation of projectionism is fucking universal. You guys just can’t fucking get away from it, can you? What the fuck was that about magic mushrooms? Open a goddamn dictionary.

    But go on thinking any Democrat is going to take away your guns. Just like Barack Obama did, ...... Oh yeah he didn't. 


    16 October 2015
    Keene State College

    Clinton suggests that by using a buyback to confiscate guns “the [Australian] government was able to curtail the supply and set a different standard for gun purchases in the future.” She went on to say “it would be worth considering doing it on the national level” here.



    The second amendment was created specifically with the intention of supporting the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state.
    As part of a well-regulated militia.
  • Reply 53 of 62
    quinney said:
    What about Santa Claus? Why is he missing from the list?
    He's not from a southern state and not to the right of Clinton on the political spectrum.  Establishment Democrats do everything by the book.
    Cook is a capitalist, he is not a marxist.  The democrats will never support him.  If he had these ambitions he would be a great candidate on the Republican Ticket.  An end to the religious right dominance (which is on the way out) and help move republicans to libertarianism.

    This list was just a BS list- having Bill Gates on there makes no sense, etc.


    Tim is a Libertarian.  Don't assume that just because he's gay, he's a leftist.  I'm not a leftist. (Sorry guys, and I'm into women.) 
    Tim Cook is certainly not a Libertarian, but he is a (largely) pragmatic businessperson.
  • Reply 54 of 62
    sog35 said:
    I hope Tim takes the Job.

    IMO, Tim is a better fit for public service or charity organization.

    He just doesn't have the mean streak to be a successful CEO in times of crisis.

    The stock price tells the whole story.

    Nothing personal against Tim. He seems to be a VERY NICE GENUINE person. And that's a problem when you are a CEO of a company competing against the sharks at Google, Samsung, Microsoft, Wall Street Journal, Verge, Bloomburg, NY Times, Digi Times, Yahoo Finance, CNBC, Amazon, Tesla, ect.  You need a CEO who will take of the kitty gloves and kick azz.  You need a CEO who is not afraid of confrontation and willing to embarass anyone who spews lies about Apple.
    The stock price has risen 300% since he became CEO.

    If your post was sarcastic... it was very subtle. If it was supposed to be serious, it doesn't make any sense.
  • Reply 55 of 62
    thedba said:
    Way to open up a dialogue. 
    There is no dialogue to be had. You’ve already incorrectly answered the fundamental question: Is innocent life worth protecting? You’ve revoked any stake you had in the argument.
    I'm not a US citizen.
    No fucking wonder you don’t understand why guns exist. And so, again, you have no stake in the argument.
    What you guys call liberalism (the Clintons?) is what most of the rest of the world would call the right, maybe even the far right. 
    No shit. The rest of the world is a goddamn shithole. We know that. We’re trying to PREVENT that. That’s why the Constitution exists. That you don’t have your natural rights protected by the foundation of your government is your problem, not ours. And it’s also your problem of COMPREHENSION.
    But go on thinking any Democrat is going to take away your guns.
    The National Firearms Act of 1934 DEMOCRATS
    Gun Control Act of 1968 DEMOCRATS
    Clinton Executive Orders DEMOCRATS
    Lautenberg Act DEMOCRATS
    Brady Law DEMOCRATS

    Either shut up about things you don’t understand or educate yourself.
    And keep on holding on to antiquated concepts like the 2nd amendment. You know it was written when muskets was the sophisticated arm of the day. 
    As passed by the Congress and preserved in the National Archives, with the rest of the original handwritten copy of the Bill of Rights prepared by scribe William Lambert:
    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    Well-Regulated: 
    The following is taken from the Oxford English Dictionary and bracket in time of the writing of the second amendment.
    1709: If a liberal education has formed in us well-regulated appetites and worthy inclinations.
    1714: The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world.
    1812: The equation of time is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sundial.
    1848: A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor.
    1862: It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding.
    1894: The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city.

    The phrase ‘well-regulated’ was in common use long before 1789 and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people’s arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the Founders wrote it.

    Militia:
    The militia refers to the entire pool of citizens–no longer just men–capable of military service. Some uneducated people will claim that the National Guard “replaced” the militia. This was clearly spelled out as false in the Militia Act of 1903. This act clarified that the National Guard is the organized militia while all able-bodied men between the ages of 17 and 45 were part of the reserve militia. The Militia Act of 1903 repealed the Militia Act of 1792, which had required all able-bodied men to be able to provide their own firearm.

    To Keep And Bear: 
    To keep means to have. To bear, in this context, means to carry and to hold. The phrase, very simply, means that you can have the item in your possession.

    Shall Not Be Infringed: 
    The last part acts on the previous phrase, “to keep and to bear.” Infringe means to wrongly limit or restrict. The language is as plain as possible. 

    Written in more modern terms, the Second Amendment might read something like this: A properly armed people is necessary for a state to be free and secure. People can have weapons in their possession and you can’t do anything about it.


    Get fucking wrecked, foreigner.


    crowley said:
    As part of a well-regulated militia.
    You’ve already been proven wrong, kid. I will continue to remind you that you cannot read or comprehend the English language until such time as you can.
    edited October 2016 rbelize
  • Reply 56 of 62
    Aah TS still forwarding polite discourse by the eloquent use of the English language  :smiley: 
    Can't wait for HK to win just for the meltdown. It will be hilarious.
    crowley
  • Reply 57 of 62
    Can't wait for HK to win
    Proof of voter intimidation:


    Proof of voter fraud:


    The bitch is dead.
    rbelizegtr
  • Reply 58 of 62
    hmmhmm Posts: 3,405member
    gtr said:
    Actually I've found the opposite to be true.

    You'll find far more inaccurate, badly-researched, biased data on any of the mainstream media network channels, so much so that I personally have come to regard them as almost a complete waste or time. I am not alone in this finding.

    And as Apple fans we all know that to be true. For how many years have we seen this same reporting about Android being superior to Apple?

    The warning signs have been there for years. 

    Ignore it, and be misled and uninformed, at your peril.
    That's a very bold statement. As I mentioned, check the sources that they cite in support of their own points. They often contradict Breitbart, yet Breitbart uses them to support their arguments. I didn't tell you to check the major network channels. I don't care for those either. It's difficult to find good news sources, and you arguably need more than one.
  • Reply 59 of 62
    blitz1blitz1 Posts: 413member
    thedba said:
    Way to open up a dialogue. 
    There is no dialogue to be had. You’ve already incorrectly answered the fundamental question: Is innocent life worth protecting? You’ve revoked any stake you had in the argument.
    I'm not a US citizen.
    No fucking wonder you don’t understand why guns exist. And so, again, you have no stake in the argument.
    What you guys call liberalism (the Clintons?) is what most of the rest of the world would call the right, maybe even the far right. 
    No shit. The rest of the world is a goddamn shithole. We know that. We’re trying to PREVENT that. That’s why the Constitution exists. That you don’t have your natural rights protected by the foundation of your government is your problem, not ours. And it’s also your problem of COMPREHENSION.
    But go on thinking any Democrat is going to take away your guns.
    The National Firearms Act of 1934 DEMOCRATS
    Gun Control Act of 1968 DEMOCRATS
    Clinton Executive Orders DEMOCRATS
    Lautenberg Act DEMOCRATS
    Brady Law DEMOCRATS

    Either shut up about things you don’t understand or educate yourself.
    And keep on holding on to antiquated concepts like the 2nd amendment. You know it was written when muskets was the sophisticated arm of the day. 
    As passed by the Congress and preserved in the National Archives, with the rest of the original handwritten copy of the Bill of Rights prepared by scribe William Lambert:
    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    Well-Regulated: 
    The following is taken from the Oxford English Dictionary and bracket in time of the writing of the second amendment.
    1709: If a liberal education has formed in us well-regulated appetites and worthy inclinations.
    1714: The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world.
    1812: The equation of time is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sundial.
    1848: A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor.
    1862: It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding.
    1894: The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city.

    The phrase ‘well-regulated’ was in common use long before 1789 and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people’s arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the Founders wrote it.

    Militia:
    The militia refers to the entire pool of citizens–no longer just men–capable of military service. Some uneducated people will claim that the National Guard “replaced” the militia. This was clearly spelled out as false in the Militia Act of 1903. This act clarified that the National Guard is the organized militia while all able-bodied men between the ages of 17 and 45 were part of the reserve militia. The Militia Act of 1903 repealed the Militia Act of 1792, which had required all able-bodied men to be able to provide their own firearm.

    To Keep And Bear: 
    To keep means to have. To bear, in this context, means to carry and to hold. The phrase, very simply, means that you can have the item in your possession.

    Shall Not Be Infringed: 
    The last part acts on the previous phrase, “to keep and to bear.” Infringe means to wrongly limit or restrict. The language is as plain as possible. 

    Written in more modern terms, the Second Amendment might read something like this: A properly armed people is necessary for a state to be free and secure. People can have weapons in their possession and you can’t do anything about it.


    Get fucking wrecked, foreigner.


    crowley said:
    As part of a well-regulated militia.
    You’ve already been proven wrong, kid. I will continue to remind you that you cannot read or comprehend the English language until such time as you can.
    Faul language and poor in grammer. That must sum up TS...

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    The thing is: is a militia necessary to the security of the state these days?
    Mmmmm....
    That's what invalidates the rest of the sentence.

    And, oh yes: guns do kill! Indeed, you'd need a trigger happy person. 
    But then again, who else would buy a gun in the first place?
    The NRA has created a thought pleonasm...
    crowley
  • Reply 60 of 62
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    hmm said:
    gtr said:
    Actually I've found the opposite to be true.

    You'll find far more inaccurate, badly-researched, biased data on any of the mainstream media network channels, so much so that I personally have come to regard them as almost a complete waste or time. I am not alone in this finding.

    And as Apple fans we all know that to be true. For how many years have we seen this same reporting about Android being superior to Apple?

    The warning signs have been there for years. 

    Ignore it, and be misled and uninformed, at your peril.
    It's difficult to find good news sources, and you arguably need more than one.
    Of course. I never recommended using just one. I recommended an additional one.

    And when these guys...


    ...are all seen having dinner at the house of the Chief Campaign Strategist (Joel Benenson) for Hillary two days before she announces her candidacy then they're demonstrating a relationship considerably closer than your standard professional one and therefore likely to be unreliable.

    Especially when CNN reporters, who don't know they're on air, admit to things like this:



    Tim Cook would never have fit in with people who operate like this.
    edited October 2016 tallest skilrbelize
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