President-elect Trump considers potential Apple manufacturing in US a 'real achievement'

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  • Reply 121 of 133
    anome said:
    apple ][ said:
    I have been sitting often - after playing squash - with groups of half naked men, or in a one to one situation, and never have I or one of my friends said things like: I grab 'm by the pussy. We like women. And yes, I was shocked. 
    I don't know what kind of life you live or what kind of friends you have, but I have had random women come up to me before and literally grab me by the c-ck (alcohol was probably involved).

    I am not shocked by somebody talking about grabbing a woman by the pussy. It can be a figure of speech. It's common talk.

    Real men sometimes talk like that. Trump is a real man. I am a real man. We're both from the same place too and that's how we talk. There is plenty of more pussy grabbing to come soon! :#


    I disagree. If you have to speak about "grabbing women by the pussy" then you're not a "real" man. You're a pathetic loser who probably hasn't had sex in a long time (if ever), but feels the need to assert his "manliness" by degrading women and talking about them as objects rather than people. You probably also have tiny hands.

    Real men are comfortable enough in their sexuality to not have to assert it by making exaggerated claims about their prowess. Real men treat women with respect, because they don't see their masculinity threatened by women being equal to them.

    I'm not going to repeat what Trump said IN A PRIVATE CONVERSATION to another person who was quite receptive to his "offensive" comments, but with regard to your "loser who probably hasn't had sex in a long time" comment... I take it you're not familiar with the stunningly beautiful women Trump has been married to and the number of kids he's fathered?
    tallest skilgtr
  • Reply 122 of 133
    I'm not going to repeat what Trump said IN A PRIVATE CONVERSATION to another person who was quite receptive to his "offensive" comments, but with regard to your "loser who probably hasn't had sex in a long time" comment... I take it you're not familiar with the stunningly beautiful women Trump has been married to and the number of kids he's fathered?
    Your argument that if someone says something in a private conversation it can't be used as an indicator of their character is not only not accurate, but I would say that it's the best indicator of all.
    ihxosingularity
  • Reply 123 of 133
    ihxoihxo Posts: 563member
    SpamSandwich said:

     I take it you're not familiar with the stunningly beautiful women Trump has been married to


    If she didn't have a baby, I would've thought that's a transsexual. 
    singularityhmm
  • Reply 124 of 133
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    gtr said:
    Incredible -- even though I should not really be surprised -- to see the level of misogyny that lurks in these boards. 

    Wow. 
    Recognising the reality that 'rich guys get chicks' and that 'many chicks let them' is hardly misogyny.
    Etc etc blah etc blah....


    I don't inhabit your world, and I am glad I don't. 

    Yeah, actually you do. The facts are the same for all of us, regardless of whether you like them or not.
    tallest skil
  • Reply 125 of 133
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member

    foggyhill said:
    gtr said:
    reefoid said:
    gtr said:
    reefoid said:
    You are basically saying there is nothing wrong with saying you can sexually assault women because you're famous.  Despicable.
    Donald Trump; ”When you're a star, they'll let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy.”

    let (lĕt) v. To give permission or opportunity to; allow:

    Twisting words.

    Great for your agenda. Not so much your credibility.
    Talking of twisting words and credibility, I see you missed out the other part of that quote:

    "I don't even wait"

    In other words, he just does it, and if they don't complain he thinks that's some form of consent.

    Try that defense in a court of law and see how far it gets you.
    Or he likes the woman, he sees the woman likes him, and he makes his move immediately.

    Waiting or not waiting has nothing has got nothing to do with consent.
    You seem to live in your own damn bubble, at least 12 said he went without fucking consent, or given him essentially the time of day.
    His own fucking "eval" of the situation is irrelevant when putting his fucking hand on their vagina in public, got that.

    We're not talking putting his paws around their waist, which is already skeezy without consent but not criminal; get a god damn clue.

    Man, stay away from any women if that's how you think.

    That's how it goes it asswipe men like Trump.
    I think a woman likes me and I'm powerful enough that she'll probably not go to the police,
    well that means she's OK with sexual assault....

    If that's how you think get yourself checked into rehab before you end up in jail.
    If you do that to me. YOU WILL END UP IN JAIL.

    You don't think it's a bit naive for a man to be in business for decades but only be accused of sexual assault mere weeks before a presidential election?

    As for 'paws around their waist' feel to offer me your opinion on just two (there are a multitude more) of these two gentlemen:





    Does your theory of non-consent extend to members of the opposition party?

    (watching Joe Biden in action on YouTube is exceedingly concerning)
    tallest skil
  • Reply 126 of 133
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    jlandd said:
    I'm not going to repeat what Trump said IN A PRIVATE CONVERSATION to another person who was quite receptive to his "offensive" comments, but with regard to your "loser who probably hasn't had sex in a long time" comment... I take it you're not familiar with the stunningly beautiful women Trump has been married to and the number of kids he's fathered?
    Your argument that if someone says something in a private conversation it can't be used as an indicator of their character is not only not accurate, but I would say that it's the best indicator of all.
    Your ability to derive an entire person's personality, beliefs, and morales from a single sentence is a neat trick.

    And if that individual had a reputation for regularly hiring women and placing them in positions of great managerial power and responsibilty within his companies well before it was trendy to do so, what would that say about them?
    tallest skil
  • Reply 127 of 133
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    vvswarup said:
    Trump is barking up the wrong tree. It's not in Tim Cook's hands where iPhones are made. People like to think Apple closed down its American factories and moved them to China to save money. That's not what happened. Apple closed down every single one of its factories in the entire world. Apple doesn't want to be in manufacturing. Apple designs all the components for its devices. It then pays component manufacturers to make them according to Apple's specifications. Those component manufacturers are located all over the world. Some of them are even in the USA.

    Bottom line is that Apple cannot "move manufacturing back to the USA" because it doesn't own any manufacturing plants to begin with. 
    Fair point. Which is why there are rumors of Apple working to bring a Foxcon plant to he US. But the only carrot Trump has to dangle is the foreign tax breaks. For companies that own their manufacturing infrastructure, will they have an advantage over Apple if they get to bring home their overseas profits to reinvest in US plants, vs. Apple which will be denied those tax breaks because they don't qualify by using US companies to build their products? Will it hurt Apple regardless? Certainly, any trade tariffs will be a bad thing for Apple, but short of that?
  • Reply 128 of 133
    Rayz2016 said:
    I have high hopes for Trump. I voted for him because I truly believe he can bring changes that are need here stateside. I also think good advisers will temper his extreme talk. He is just candid like I am. Doesn't mean he is bad. Just has to choose his words differently depending on who he is addressing. 
    Right.

    So during a conversation about women during whicy he said, "You can do anything. Grab them by the p###y," which words should he have chosen?

    When he went past that 14-year-old girl and said to an adviser that he would be dating her in ten years, would it have been better if he said he'd be dating her in twelve years?
    Stop being a pussy. I don't see anything wrong with those comments.
    That doesn't surprise me.
    singularityanome
  • Reply 129 of 133
    Swami BaloneySwami Baloney Posts: 19unconfirmed, member
    Trump will deliver none of this. It is campaign hyperbole. Indiana, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin; problems run these states are beyond employment of blue collar workers. Should Apple open a plant and add 250,000 workers.? You're on drugs if you believe that.
    singularity
  • Reply 130 of 133
    Swami BaloneySwami Baloney Posts: 19unconfirmed, member
    Stop covering this stuff. It's false news. Drump knows how to manipulate you. There are no new manufacturing jobs coming.
  • Reply 131 of 133
    Stop covering this stuff. It's false news. Drump knows how to manipulate you. There are no new manufacturing jobs coming.
    Go back to HuffPol and circlejerk your queen. How retarded do you have to be to think that John Alfihar (LOL I USED A MEDIEVAL SPELLING OF HIS LAST NAME WHAT NOW DURR) is worth emulating in any capacity?
    gtr
  • Reply 132 of 133
    We Americans like our luxury items and, to be frank, we don't even see them as luxuries. Build high-tech devices here, the price doubles or triples. We Americans do not understand how high our standard of living really is. (When was the last time we saw thousands of Americans getting to work on bicycles? Never.) 
    People forget that American industrial might was the result of World War II, by the end of which US manufacturing was loaded for bear and nothing to focus on but consumer items - cars, appliances, etc. Meanwhile, the third world had virtually no manufacturing at all. As described in the book Megatrends (1982) there would be a huge shift towards Asian manufacturing because by the turn of this century Asia would be loaded with brand-new manufacturing plants while those in the US were aging and requiring vast amounts of money to upgrade or replace. The big picture is very big indeed.
    And did anyone notice that Trump said that it would be his victory? And why just Apple? Companies like Ford and GM outsource a great deal. Is the average blue collar American willing to pay an extra $10K for a compact car? If not, the used car market will boom, but what happens when used car parts vanish from the market? Will there be enough demand to justify domestic manufacturing of millions of different parts for cars that have been off the market for thirty years?
    There is no magic bullet and we can't force just one company to go totally domestic. All will have to do it or it won't work.
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