Earin combats Apple's AirPods with new M-2 truly wireless earbuds

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• Reply 1 of 17

  lkrupp Posts: 10,557member

  January 5, 2017 2:20PM

  If the W1 chip does what they say it does then I would prefer connection stability over all.

  
• Reply 2 of 17

  MplsP Posts: 3,925member

  January 5, 2017 2:35PM

  lkrupp said:

  If the W1 chip does what they say it does then I would prefer connection stability over all.

  Ditto. That's my big complaint about Bluetooth. It *usually* works, but for something like headphones, I want something that ALWAYS works, especially if they're going to charge $180-200

  
• Reply 3 of 17

  robertwalter Posts: 276member

  January 5, 2017 2:41PM

  The audio stability of my AirPods was great.  In general they are awesome gadgets. Problem was they continuously fell out. 
  
  Apple is opening a market space for competitors with people like me. 
  
  I recommend everybody with interest order and try the AirPods. If they don't retain well send them back for free to apple with a note in the box as I did. 

  
• Reply 4 of 17

  peteo Posts: 402member

  January 5, 2017 3:09PM

  MplsP said:

  lkrupp said:

  If the W1 chip does what they say it does then I would prefer connection stability over all.

  Ditto. That's my big complaint about Bluetooth. It *usually* works, but for something like headphones, I want something that ALWAYS works, especially if they're going to charge $180-200

  I have Airpods, while I like them they are not immune to drop out and connection issues. I commute to work (public transportation) for around 1hr and 1/2 (3 hours total a day) also work out at the the gym. Airpods stay in my ear no problem. So far on average I'm get 1-2 connection drops (where I have to go into Bluetooth settings click airpods) and about 1-2 audio pauses (where I have to hit play, or double tap airpod to resume) every morning and evening.  Connection seems to totally drop when my iPhone connects to wifi. No sure what is causing the pauses.  When they work they are really good. But these dropped connections and pauses are annoying, Im not sure if I should be going to get them checked out at the apple store or if this is just the way it is. 

  edited January 2017
• Reply 5 of 17

  Metriacanthosaurus Posts: 880member

  January 5, 2017 3:34PM

  peteo said:

  MplsP said:

  lkrupp said:

  If the W1 chip does what they say it does then I would prefer connection stability over all.

  Ditto. That's my big complaint about Bluetooth. It *usually* works, but for something like headphones, I want something that ALWAYS works, especially if they're going to charge $180-200

  I have Airpods, while I like them they are not immune to drop out and connection issues. I commute to work (public transportation) for around 1hr and 1/2 (3 hours total a day) also work out at the the gym. Airpods stay in my ear no problem. So far on average I'm get 1-2 connection drops (where I have to go into Bluetooth settings click airpods) and about 1-2 audio pauses (where I have to hit play, or double tap airpod to resume) every morning and evening.  Connection seems to totally drop when my iPhone connects to wifi. No sure what is causing the pauses.  When they work they are really good. But these dropped connections and pauses are annoying, Im not sure if I should be going to get them checked out at the apple store or if this is just the way it is. 

  Thats not even remotely close to the "way it is".
  
  I've been using them every day for a 10 days, constantly switching back and forth between iPhone 7, iPad Pro, and an iMac...something I never even bothered to do with other BT headsets since it was so laborious. No issues of the kind you describe at all.

  
• Reply 6 of 17

  MacPro Posts: 19,727member

  January 5, 2017 3:45PM

  If you fastened a Tile (https://www.thetileapp.com) to each one you'd have a stylish statement as well as being able to find them again.

  edited January 2017
• Reply 7 of 17

  cali Posts: 3,494member

  January 5, 2017 3:46PM

  Earings 

  
• Reply 8 of 17

  coolfactor Posts: 2,241member

  January 5, 2017 3:47PM

  peteo said:

  MplsP said:

  lkrupp said:

  If the W1 chip does what they say it does then I would prefer connection stability over all.

  Ditto. That's my big complaint about Bluetooth. It *usually* works, but for something like headphones, I want something that ALWAYS works, especially if they're going to charge $180-200

  I have Airpods, while I like them they are not immune to drop out and connection issues. I commute to work (public transportation) for around 1hr and 1/2 (3 hours total a day) also work out at the the gym. Airpods stay in my ear no problem. So far on average I'm get 1-2 connection drops (where I have to go into Bluetooth settings click airpods) and about 1-2 audio pauses (where I have to hit play, or double tap airpod to resume) every morning and evening.  Connection seems to totally drop when my iPhone connects to wifi. No sure what is causing the pauses.  When they work they are really good. But these dropped connections and pauses are annoying, Im not sure if I should be going to get them checked out at the apple store or if this is just the way it is. 

  
  Sounds to me like radio frequency interference. People forget that there are actually an increasing number of radio waves competing. Ever walk near your microwave with a cordless phone, and find the connection dropped?
  
  So, I would inspect your spaces and try to eliminate any unneeded wireless broadcasters. Turn off Bluetooth from devices not using it, for example.
  
  It truly is amazing that our wireless devices can navigate the crowded wireless spectrum as well as they do!
• Reply 9 of 17

  crudman Posts: 56member

  January 5, 2017 3:53PM

  coolfactor said:

  peteo said:

  MplsP said:

  lkrupp said:

  If the W1 chip does what they say it does then I would prefer connection stability over all.

  Ditto. That's my big complaint about Bluetooth. It *usually* works, but for something like headphones, I want something that ALWAYS works, especially if they're going to charge $180-200

  I have Airpods, while I like them they are not immune to drop out and connection issues. I commute to work (public transportation) for around 1hr and 1/2 (3 hours total a day) also work out at the the gym. Airpods stay in my ear no problem. So far on average I'm get 1-2 connection drops (where I have to go into Bluetooth settings click airpods) and about 1-2 audio pauses (where I have to hit play, or double tap airpod to resume) every morning and evening.  Connection seems to totally drop when my iPhone connects to wifi. No sure what is causing the pauses.  When they work they are really good. But these dropped connections and pauses are annoying, Im not sure if I should be going to get them checked out at the apple store or if this is just the way it is. 

  
  Sounds to me like radio frequency interference. People forget that there are actually an increasing number of radio waves competing. Ever walk near your microwave with a cordless phone, and find the connection dropped?
  
  So, I would inspect your spaces and try to eliminate any unneeded wireless broadcasters. Turn off Bluetooth from devices not using it, for example.
  
  It truly is amazing that our wireless devices can navigate the crowded wireless spectrum as well as they do!

  Completely agree with this. Granted you can't control signals in public areas (such as on your public transit commute), so it may be easier said than done.
  
  I've only had one instance of "weirdness" with my AirPods in the 10 or so days I've had mine - I was in a small shop where there shouldn't be much interference at all and my left 'Pod cut out entirely for a couple of seconds, came back and then out again, then the right one cut one, then both came back and stayed back. No one else I could see with bluetooth headsets in the shop and 'Pods were both nearly fully charged (90% give or take). Hasn't happened since.
  
  I've noticed though that my right 'Pod drains more quickly than my left. In fact just this morning I was on a 90 minute conference call (by the way, they're FANTASTIC for conference calls) and both had started at 100%. At the end of the call the left was at 38% and the right at 20%. I've also noticed my case battery draining (the "known issue" of the 'Pods being in the case and both 'Pods and case being at full charge) over night by 15-20% with no use. So I wonder if maybe the right 'Pod has some issue and is not only draining faster while in use but also draining while not in use and thus sucking charge from the case...will be taking them into my local Apple store to check on them, but honestly even with that issue these things are flippin' fantastic.
• Reply 10 of 17

  crudman Posts: 56member

  January 5, 2017 3:56PM

  I know a guy who has the Earin M-1s (I think they're M-1s - he bought them through their Kickstarter a little over a year ago). He really likes them, but after watching him use them I notice a few things compared to the AirPods:
  1) The battery life isn't as good - probably because they're smaller with no "stems" so smaller battery
  2) Setup isn't nearly as slick as the AirPods which, while a small thing, is truly great
  3) Charge time in the case is much longer than the AirPods - about 2x longer to charge
  4) Case has a smaller battery as well
  
  I'll say though that the M-1s don't look great, but the picture above of the M-2s actually look very decent. Also wishing the AirPods came in black now...

  
• Reply 11 of 17

  jcs2305 Posts: 1,337member

  January 5, 2017 4:05PM

  Metriacanthosaurus said:

  peteo said:

  MplsP said:

  lkrupp said:

  If the W1 chip does what they say it does then I would prefer connection stability over all.

  Ditto. That's my big complaint about Bluetooth. It *usually* works, but for something like headphones, I want something that ALWAYS works, especially if they're going to charge $180-200

  I have Airpods, while I like them they are not immune to drop out and connection issues. I commute to work (public transportation) for around 1hr and 1/2 (3 hours total a day) also work out at the the gym. Airpods stay in my ear no problem. So far on average I'm get 1-2 connection drops (where I have to go into Bluetooth settings click airpods) and about 1-2 audio pauses (where I have to hit play, or double tap airpod to resume) every morning and evening.  Connection seems to totally drop when my iPhone connects to wifi. No sure what is causing the pauses.  When they work they are really good. But these dropped connections and pauses are annoying, Im not sure if I should be going to get them checked out at the apple store or if this is just the way it is. 

  Thats not even remotely close to the "way it is".
  
  I've been using them every day for a 10 days, constantly switching back and forth between iPhone 7, iPad Pro, and an iMac...something I never even bothered to do with other BT headsets since it was so laborious. No issues of the kind you describe at all.

  So you couldn't just recommend an appointment to the Genius Bar to try and help someone get their problem sorted out ? Instead the snarky " That's not even remotely close" was the only way you saw fit to comment ?  The cocky defensiveness with some folks on here is just plain silly. Also your last sentence .. are you saying you are having issues, just not the same issues the op is having, or no issues at all ? I wasn't sure what you meant ? 
  
   Personally I have had problems with Bluetooth stability and connectivity with my iPhone 7plus since day one. I gave it a chance to resolve with updates, it hasn't so I have an appointment this weekend to see what is going on.  I have multiple 6s plus' in my house as well as iPad Air 2 that I use with the same devices as my 7plus. They work without issue and my 7plus has problems with these same devices daily.
  
  Stuttering and choppiness when a song starts or switches to the next track, the sound will just stop for no apparent reason even though the music app clearly shows the song still playing. Random disconnects from a device. Music just stops playing on the device and continues audibly playing on my iPhone. 

  
• Reply 12 of 17

  StrangeDays Posts: 12,877member

  January 5, 2017 6:38PM

  lkrupp said:

  If the W1 chip does what they say it does then I would prefer connection stability over all.

  yeah, multidevice pairing is the killer feature here. use on phone during the day, ipad at bedtime, and watch during morning run -- all without playing the bluetooth pairing game. 
• Reply 13 of 17

  rf9 Posts: 70member

  January 5, 2017 7:29PM

  With the exception that these look a little less silly than Airpods (something that would be mitigated if Airpods came in black) I think I still prefer the Airpods. Another review I read said the sound quality wasn't better and that would be my primary reason. So I see these as really a good alternative.
• Reply 14 of 17

  entropys Posts: 4,166member

  January 5, 2017 9:03PM

  peteo said:

  MplsP said:

  lkrupp said:

  If the W1 chip does what they say it does then I would prefer connection stability over all.

  Ditto. That's my big complaint about Bluetooth. It *usually* works, but for something like headphones, I want something that ALWAYS works, especially if they're going to charge $180-200

  I have Airpods, while I like them they are not immune to drop out and connection issues. I commute to work (public transportation) for around 1hr and 1/2 (3 hours total a day) also work out at the the gym. Airpods stay in my ear no problem. So far on average I'm get 1-2 connection drops (where I have to go into Bluetooth settings click airpods) and about 1-2 audio pauses (where I have to hit play, or double tap airpod to resume) every morning and evening.  Connection seems to totally drop when my iPhone connects to wifi. No sure what is causing the pauses.  When they work they are really good. But these dropped connections and pauses are annoying, Im not sure if I should be going to get them checked out at the apple store or if this is just the way it is. 

  Maybe take them to a genius bar for a swap and see if it is still happening with a new pair?  It would be interesting to know.
• Reply 15 of 17

  kitu Posts: 9member

  January 5, 2017 9:09PM

  Speaker impedance is 25 Ohm.
  
  Well, no wired connection to any external amp, where the impedance has any meaning. If that info is from manufacturers side - that's the credibility
• Reply 16 of 17

  crudman Posts: 56member

  January 5, 2017 9:10PM

  jcs2305 said:

  Metriacanthosaurus said:

  peteo said:

  MplsP said:

  lkrupp said:

  If the W1 chip does what they say it does then I would prefer connection stability over all.

  Ditto. That's my big complaint about Bluetooth. It *usually* works, but for something like headphones, I want something that ALWAYS works, especially if they're going to charge $180-200

  I have Airpods, while I like them they are not immune to drop out and connection issues. I commute to work (public transportation) for around 1hr and 1/2 (3 hours total a day) also work out at the the gym. Airpods stay in my ear no problem. So far on average I'm get 1-2 connection drops (where I have to go into Bluetooth settings click airpods) and about 1-2 audio pauses (where I have to hit play, or double tap airpod to resume) every morning and evening.  Connection seems to totally drop when my iPhone connects to wifi. No sure what is causing the pauses.  When they work they are really good. But these dropped connections and pauses are annoying, Im not sure if I should be going to get them checked out at the apple store or if this is just the way it is. 

  Thats not even remotely close to the "way it is".
  
  I've been using them every day for a 10 days, constantly switching back and forth between iPhone 7, iPad Pro, and an iMac...something I never even bothered to do with other BT headsets since it was so laborious. No issues of the kind you describe at all.

  So you couldn't just recommend an appointment to the Genius Bar to try and help someone get their problem sorted out ? Instead the snarky " That's not even remotely close" was the only way you saw fit to comment ?  The cocky defensiveness with some folks on here is just plain silly. Also your last sentence .. are you saying you are having issues, just not the same issues the op is having, or no issues at all ? I wasn't sure what you meant ? 
  
   Personally I have had problems with Bluetooth stability and connectivity with my iPhone 7plus since day one. I gave it a chance to resolve with updates, it hasn't so I have an appointment this weekend to see what is going on.  I have multiple 6s plus' in my house as well as iPad Air 2 that I use with the same devices as my 7plus. They work without issue and my 7plus has problems with these same devices daily.
  
  Stuttering and choppiness when a song starts or switches to the next track, the sound will just stop for no apparent reason even though the music app clearly shows the song still playing. Random disconnects from a device. Music just stops playing on the device and continues audibly playing on my iPhone. 

  I've got a 7Plus as well and the only BT issue I've had with it is with connectivity to my car (a 2014 Subaru). After the 10.1 update I found a thread online that lead me to removing the connection with my car (from both the car & the phone) and then recreating the BT connection specifically by using the radio controls, NOT the steering wheel controls (yes, that made a difference for some unexplained reason). Now all is good. I'd say there's definitely something off with your 7Plus so the Genius Bar appointment is a good idea for sure.