Good. This solves one of the worst issues with the current gen iPad. The protruding camera. Honestly, one of the major reasons I hadn't upgraded since the iPad Air.
I have the thinner iPad Air 2 and it doesn't have a protruding camera.
The omission on RAM is interesting? Would it be the same 2mb as the Air2 or did they cut here to get cost down?
Seems this ipad is just a re-branded cost cutting product - with negligible or possibly worse performance than the Air2 that is thicker and weighs more. Leads me to believe this is more of an up-sell attempt to the pro than anything - using the long upgrade cycle as leveage.
Will be interesting to see the performance comparisons.
Reason for thickness - look for the screen spec: http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/ It's screen isn't laminated to the glass and doesn't have the anti-reflective treatment found on the screen of every other iPad. The iPad Air 2, by comparison, had a fully-laminated screen, which removes a visible gap between the display and the glass cover
The omission on RAM is interesting? Would it be the same 2mb as the Air2 or did they cut here to get cost down?
Seems this ipad is just a re-branded cost cutting product - with negligible or possibly worse performance than the Air2 that is thicker and weighs more. Leads me to believe this is more of an up-sell attempt to the pro than anything - using the long upgrade cycle as leveage.
Will be interesting to see the performance comparisons.
Apple has never indicated the amount of RAM for any iDevice which means it would only be interesting if they decided to tell us this time.
Reason for thickness - look for the screen spec: http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/ It's screen isn't laminated to the glass and doesn't have the anti-reflective treatment found on the screen of every other iPad. The iPad Air 2, by comparison, had a fully-laminated screen, which removes a visible gap between the display and the glass cover
Yes, and for me that's a good thing. I'm going to be buying two of these to replace an iPad 2 and an iPad Air that my kids use. We've had to replace 3 screens over the years because kids are kids and they break things. Replacing the laminated screens is a lot more expensive and it's not a one-day turnaround for us. My kids really don't care about the very small increase in thickness, but I care a lot about the lower cost to repair.
The omission on RAM is interesting? Would it be the same 2mb as the Air2 or did they cut here to get cost down?
Seems this ipad is just a re-branded cost cutting product - with negligible or possibly worse performance than the Air2 that is thicker and weighs more. Leads me to believe this is more of an up-sell attempt to the pro than anything - using the long upgrade cycle as leveage.
Will be interesting to see the performance comparisons.
dude the Air2 has the A8, the new iPad has an A9
I might be wrong but I thought the Air2 has the A8x which was a new chip made for the iPad, were this seems to suggest it has a standard A9 chip in it which is the less powerful made for phone chip, just newer generation, perhaps it cuts production costs down as these are also used in the iPhone 6s.
i don't understand this upgrade, they have made it thicker and it's still pricey, not really "budget" as labelled else were they have simply lowered the price back to what it was last year anyway.
Poor choice. I am in a market for a new tablet/iPad but no way I am buying this. Waiting to see what a pro refresh might bring!
The omission on RAM is interesting? Would it be the same 2mb as the Air2 or did they cut here to get cost down?
Seems this ipad is just a re-branded cost cutting product - with negligible or possibly worse performance than the Air2 that is thicker and weighs more. Leads me to believe this is more of an up-sell attempt to the pro than anything - using the long upgrade cycle as leveage.
Will be interesting to see the performance comparisons.
dude the Air2 has the A8, the new iPad has an A9
I might be wrong but I thought the Air2 has the A8x which was a new chip made for the iPad, were this seems to suggest it has a standard A9 chip in it which is the less powerful made for phone chip, just newer generation, perhaps it cuts production costs down as these are also used in the iPhone 6s.
i don't understand this upgrade, they have made it thicker and it's still pricey, not really "budget" as labelled else were they have simply lowered the price back to what it was last year anyway.
Poor choice. I am in a market for a new tablet/iPad but no way I am buying this. Waiting to see what a pro refresh might bring!
1) How is it pricey when it's $70 less than yesterday for a 32 GB 10" iPad?
2) Where did you get this "made for iPad" and "made for iPhone" chip designation for the 'X'? You should look at the chip specs and how it performs to come to a conclusion. The latter is relevant because there's a much larger battery which could mean that it's clocked higher than the A9 used in the iPhone which could help increase its already massive victory with single-core performance over the A8X.
Something quite important is not mentioned in the article and that is the fact that the new iPad goes back to the iPad Air type of Display (NOT Fully laminated display and NO Antireflective coating).
The bump in thickness is OK, if they add a bit more battery and from other sources it seems that this will be the case (According to GSMArena: Li-Ion 8610 mAh battery (32.4 Wh) for the new one against the Li-Po 7340 mAh battery (27.62 Wh) for the Air 2), BUT going backwards on the Display technology is a HUGE disappointment. It is absolutely ridiculous that the "entry" level iPad mini 4 has the mentioned laminated display with Antireflective coating and its bigger brother does not!?!
The only reason for this move imo is to make the iPad Pro 9.7 more attractive in comparison with the new "iPad" and this is quite disappointing. Being able to use the apple pencil, smart keyboard, having a superior Camera, superior P3 Display, superior sound speakers and even more Antireflective TRUE TONE Display are reasons ENOUGH for a superior model costing you $270 more!!
Making a kind of a new Hybrid between the Air 2 and Air models, but with a new processor, is not really what we were hoping for I guess. And why did they leave the "4" in the iPad mini name?! Simply call it iPad mini, iPad and iPad Pro...
Sorry for all the caps, but I am definitely angered at the news
I still believe that there will be a Late March/Early April event introducing some news on the iPad Pro front and may be even some new Macs. At least I really hope so, because this was an excuse of an update!
The omission on RAM is interesting? Would it be the same 2mb as the Air2 or did they cut here to get cost down?
Seems this ipad is just a re-branded cost cutting product - with negligible or possibly worse performance than the Air2 that is thicker and weighs more. Leads me to believe this is more of an up-sell attempt to the pro than anything - using the long upgrade cycle as leveage.
Will be interesting to see the performance comparisons.
Apple has never indicated the amount of RAM for any iDevice which means it would only be interesting if they decided to tell us this time.
2mb - they did mention it before. They removed it. The question is, will a standard iphone chip beat out an optimized ipad chip? From geekbench testing - its not a given this will be a performance boost. I think it's more of a rebrand than an update - to differentiate from the ipad pro2.
Something quite important is not mentioned in the article and that is the fact that the new iPad goes back to the iPad Air type of Display (NOT Fully laminated display and NO Antireflective coating).
The bump in thickness is OK, if they add a bit more battery and from other sources it seems that this will be the case (According to GSMArena: Li-Ion 8610 mAh battery (32.4 Wh) for the new one against the Li-Po 7340 mAh battery (27.62 Wh) for the Air 2), BUT going backwards on the Display technology is a HUGE disappointment. It is absolutely ridiculous that the "entry" level iPad mini 4 has the mentioned laminated display with Antireflective coating and its bigger brother does not!?!
According to Apple, the battery is 32.4 watt-hours. While this article doesn't delve into the reasons why, and is more of a "hey, it's thicker" piece, the iPad Air-style isn't a bad thing from an "in the field" perspective.
This iPad is really focused on the 30% of the pre-iPad Air population.
We'll see how it goes with time. I've got utterly no issue with a $329 9.7-inch iPad. It's perhaps a move that may irritate the Apple faithful, but we aren't a large portion of Apple's business anymore.
The omission on RAM is interesting? Would it be the same 2mb as the Air2 or did they cut here to get cost down?
Seems this ipad is just a re-branded cost cutting product - with negligible or possibly worse performance than the Air2 that is thicker and weighs more. Leads me to believe this is more of an up-sell attempt to the pro than anything - using the long upgrade cycle as leveage.
Will be interesting to see the performance comparisons.
Apple has never indicated the amount of RAM for any iDevice which means it would only be interesting if they decided to tell us this time.
2mb - they did mention it before. They removed it. The question is, will a standard iphone chip beat out an optimized ipad chip? From geekbench testing - its not a given this will be a performance boost. I think it's more of a rebrand than an update - to differentiate from the ipad pro2.
If you so easily confuse 2 gigabytes with 2 megabits in writing, do you think that you may also be confused about what you believe you remember reading on their Spec Sheets?
PS: The A9X in the 10" iPad Pro only has 2 GiB RAM, not 4 GiB like in the A9X found in the 13" iPad Pro.
Something quite important is not mentioned in the article and that is the fact that the new iPad goes back to the iPad Air type of Display (NOT Fully laminated display and NO Antireflective coating).
The bump in thickness is OK, if they add a bit more battery and from other sources it seems that this will be the case (According to GSMArena: Li-Ion 8610 mAh battery (32.4 Wh) for the new one against the Li-Po 7340 mAh battery (27.62 Wh) for the Air 2), BUT going backwards on the Display technology is a HUGE disappointment. It is absolutely ridiculous that the "entry" level iPad mini 4 has the mentioned laminated display with Antireflective coating and its bigger brother does not!?!
According to Apple, the battery is 32.4 watt-hours. While this article doesn't delve into the reasons why, and is more of a "hey, it's thicker" piece, the iPad Air-style isn't a bad thing from an "in the field" perspective.
This iPad is really focused on the 30% of the pre-iPad Air population.
We'll see how it goes with time. I've got utterly no issue with a $329 9.7-inch iPad. It's perhaps a move that may irritate the Apple faithful, but we aren't a large portion of Apple's business anymore.
The 2017 iPad has an LCD that is not laminated to the front glass. Combined with the starting price of $330, I imagine a lot of kids will be breaking the glass screens, they already do, and repairs will be so much easier when the glass isn't glued to the LCD. There are a lot of young kids using iPads, and making it easier to replace the front glass is a consumer win.
The omission on RAM is interesting? Would it be the same 2mb as the Air2 or did they cut here to get cost down?
Seems this ipad is just a re-branded cost cutting product - with negligible or possibly worse performance than the Air2 that is thicker and weighs more. Leads me to believe this is more of an up-sell attempt to the pro than anything - using the long upgrade cycle as leveage.
Will be interesting to see the performance comparisons.
dude the Air2 has the A8, the new iPad has an A9
I might be wrong but I thought the Air2 has the A8x which was a new chip made for the iPad, were this seems to suggest it has a standard A9 chip in it which is the less powerful made for phone chip, just newer generation, perhaps it cuts production costs down as these are also used in the iPhone 6s.
i don't understand this upgrade, they have made it thicker and it's still pricey, not really "budget" as labelled else were they have simply lowered the price back to what it was last year anyway.
Poor choice. I am in a market for a new tablet/iPad but no way I am buying this. Waiting to see what a pro refresh might bring!
The A9 SoC will be a lot faster in CPU (20% to 40%) and a little bit faster in GPU (10% or so) than the A8X. It's a good SoC improvement accompanied by a reduction in price. You lose on thickness and display quality (increased display parallax), but I think potential buyers will think it is a really good trade. It will have 2 GB of RAM as it is advertised to support SplitView.
2mb - they did mention it before. They removed it. The question is, will a standard iphone chip beat out an optimized ipad chip? From geekbench testing - its not a given this will be a performance boost. I think it's more of a rebrand than an update - to differentiate from the ipad pro2.
If you so easily confuse 2 gigabytes with 2 megabits in writing, do you think that you may also be confused about what you believe you remember reading on their Spec Sheets?
PS: The A9X in the 10" iPad Pro only has 2 GiB RAM, not 4 GiB like in the A9X found in the 13" iPad Pro.
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I have the thinner iPad Air 2 and it doesn't have a protruding camera.
Would it be the same 2mb as the Air2 or did they cut here to get cost down?
Seems this ipad is just a re-branded cost cutting product - with negligible or possibly worse performance than the Air2 that is thicker and weighs more.
Leads me to believe this is more of an up-sell attempt to the pro than anything - using the long upgrade cycle as leveage.
Will be interesting to see the performance comparisons.
It's screen isn't laminated to the glass and doesn't have the anti-reflective treatment found on the screen of every other iPad. The iPad Air 2, by comparison, had a fully-laminated screen, which removes a visible gap between the display and the glass cover
Yes, and for me that's a good thing. I'm going to be buying two of these to replace an iPad 2 and an iPad Air that my kids use. We've had to replace 3 screens over the years because kids are kids and they break things. Replacing the laminated screens is a lot more expensive and it's not a one-day turnaround for us. My kids really don't care about the very small increase in thickness, but I care a lot about the lower cost to repair.
i don't understand this upgrade, they have made it thicker and it's still pricey, not really "budget" as labelled else were they have simply lowered the price back to what it was last year anyway.
Poor choice. I am in a market for a new tablet/iPad but no way I am buying this. Waiting to see what a pro refresh might bring!
2) Where did you get this "made for iPad" and "made for iPhone" chip designation for the 'X'? You should look at the chip specs and how it performs to come to a conclusion. The latter is relevant because there's a much larger battery which could mean that it's clocked higher than the A9 used in the iPhone which could help increase its already massive victory with single-core performance over the A8X.
I like to think of it as a Full-Figured iPad...
The question is, will a standard iphone chip beat out an optimized ipad chip? From geekbench testing - its not a given this will be a performance boost.
I think it's more of a rebrand than an update - to differentiate from the ipad pro2.
Added thickness is for rebranding.
The added thickness leads to dropped 'Air' in its name.
Now it's just an iPad.
RIP iPad Air 2 (with better screen).
We'll see how it goes with time. I've got utterly no issue with a $329 9.7-inch iPad. It's perhaps a move that may irritate the Apple faithful, but we aren't a large portion of Apple's business anymore.
PS: The A9X in the 10" iPad Pro only has 2 GiB RAM, not 4 GiB like in the A9X found in the 13" iPad Pro.
This, and the iPad Mini announcement should clear the path for some very interesting iPad Pro announcements -- both hardware and OS!
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The 2017 iPad has an LCD that is not laminated to the front glass. Combined with the starting price of $330, I imagine a lot of kids will be breaking the glass screens, they already do, and repairs will be so much easier when the glass isn't glued to the LCD. There are a lot of young kids using iPads, and making it easier to replace the front glass is a consumer win.
The A9 SoC will be a lot faster in CPU (20% to 40%) and a little bit faster in GPU (10% or so) than the A8X. It's a good SoC improvement accompanied by a reduction in price. You lose on thickness and display quality (increased display parallax), but I think potential buyers will think it is a really good trade. It will have 2 GB of RAM as it is advertised to support SplitView.