Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail.
Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
Who pays the trillion dollars for our wars in the middle east? Same people. I'd rather not spend it on pointless foreign wars and pay for an educated citizenry instead.
None of this would've been anticipated or would've happened under any other President who was "expected" to win in 2016.
Your brilliance in being able to make forecasts about the counterfactual world leaves me.... gobsmacked!
After 8 years of economic sputtering, no growth, insider payoffs for favors... the change so far has been overall pretty good for business and it looks like it'll get even better. Trump doesn't get a free pass from me on everything, but on business matters his team is performing spectacularly so far. Looking forward to tax reform.
You're rewriting history. We had growth and pulled out of the recession under Obama. The recession that came during Bush and the banking implosion.
Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail.
We don't need more socialism. We need to keep draining the swamp, which includes rampant corruption, insurrection, etc. throughout "higher education" which doesn't educate nearly enough. With Trump's administration, there is new emphasis on technical/vocational education, which have been seriously lacking for decades. This brand of education will much more effectively supply the revived job market with people who actually know how to do useful things, thus making themselves truly employable.
Trump hasn't drained anything. He has as many lobbyists and industry people as anyone. Can't believe anyone fell for that line.
Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail.
Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
The same people who pay for the free roads you use.
A better question and its answer: Who benefits from "free" roads and "free" education? Everyone.
Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail.
Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
The same people who pay for the free roads you use.
A better question and its answer: Who benefits from "free" roads and "free" education? Everyone.
Obviously, the Federal highway system isn't free and there are many excellent arguments in favor of privatizing roads. If any are unaware the US is nearly $20 TRILLION in debt right now. There is an urgent need to radically downsize and defund many needless and wasteful Federal programs and departments.
None of this would've been anticipated or would've happened under any other President who was "expected" to win in 2016.
Your brilliance in being able to make forecasts about the counterfactual world leaves me.... gobsmacked!
After 8 years of economic sputtering, no growth, insider payoffs for favors... the change so far has been overall pretty good for business and it looks like it'll get even better. Trump doesn't get a free pass from me on everything, but on business matters his team is performing spectacularly so far. Looking forward to tax reform.
Um... what?! Are you saying this with a straight face?!
"Economic sputtering"? 0.7% GDP growth in the first quarter of 2017 "No growth"? Here's Wilbur Ross, the US Commerce Secretary on growth forecast for all of 2017 "Insider payoffs for favors"? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..... (Unfortunately I have neither the time nor space to document all the "favors" doled out by Trump & his cronies, but I can recommend picking up and reading any random newspaper on any random day).
I don't think you have an appreciation for what has really been propping up our economy.
Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail.
Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
The same people who pay for the free roads you use.
A better question and its answer: Who benefits from "free" roads and "free" education? Everyone.
Obviously, the Federal highway system isn't free and there are many excellent arguments in favor of privatizing roads. If any are unaware the US is nearly $20 TRILLION in debt right now. There is an urgent need to radically downsize and defund many needless and wasteful Federal programs and departments.
Obviously, the Federal highway system isn't free
We can agree on this. Nothing is free. What is important is spending on that which creates the most benefit for the most people. Infrastructure, education, the health and wellbeing of our population would be the best place to start.
there are many excellent arguments in favor of privatizing roads.
All of the arguments in favor of privatizing roads are laughably stupid from a pubic good point of view.
There is an urgent need to radically downsize and defund many needless and wasteful Federal programs and departments.
We agree on this, too! Let's start by reducing the obscene amount of money we spend on our military and on wars such as those in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. Sadly, the US is no longer viewed as the world's savior and beacon of hope and light as it was after WWII. Let's remove our troops overseas and require countries like Germany, South Korea and Japan, etc, to pay for their own defense. We spend more money on our military than the next 10 countries combined and most of those countries are our allies!
Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail.
Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
Its built into the state budget. I know what you're probably getting at here...so yes tax payers pay for this. If the federal government did the same thing, it would be the same way. Money doesn't come out of thin air no matter who you are. The point is, the tax payers money is being used appropriately with programs like this. I don't mind paying taxes if its going to go toward programs like this.
"Free" school is just another subsidy which devalues and distorts all of the costs associated with the giveaway. Absent a feedback loop, in this case punishment in the form of unemployment for students who choose to pursue studies which serve no marketable need, then it would be tantamount to taxpayer robbery.
Ummm okay...we'll just have unskilled people in the US then. Only the top 1% are qualified to get an education.
Nope. As I mentioned, vocational education skills benefit industry, therefore it only makes sense that industry would voluntarily fund these educational programs for their own benefit. Schooling could be offered at low cost or even for free, depending on their willingness to act in concert for industry benefit or for their own business benefit.
Thats nice....as long as you want to do something that is a skilled trade which is primarily what vocational schools do. You need more than just that. In this country, school should be free for those who cannot afford it. Its a damn shame that people graduated this past weekend from most colleges and have over $100,000 in debt. We waste so much money in this country its embarrassing. That's money that could go toward someone's education which will only benefit everyone in the end, including the federal government.
Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail.
Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
The same people who pay for the free roads you use.
A better question and its answer: Who benefits from "free" roads and "free" education? Everyone.
Rog is always just negative so only negative posts are points are made. Never mind that the positives outweigh the negatives.
Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail.
Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
Its built into the state budget. I know what you're probably getting at here...so yes tax payers pay for this. If the federal government did the same thing, it would be the same way. Money doesn't come out of thin air no matter who you are. The point is, the tax payers money is being used appropriately with programs like this. I don't mind paying taxes if its going to go toward programs like this.
"Free" school is just another subsidy which devalues and distorts all of the costs associated with the giveaway. Absent a feedback loop, in this case punishment in the form of unemployment for students who choose to pursue studies which serve no marketable need, then it would be tantamount to taxpayer robbery.
Ummm okay...we'll just have unskilled people in the US then. Only the top 1% are qualified to get an education.
Nope. As I mentioned, vocational education skills benefit industry, therefore it only makes sense that industry would voluntarily fund these educational programs for their own benefit. Schooling could be offered at low cost or even for free, depending on their willingness to act in concert for industry benefit or for their own business benefit.
Thats nice....as long as you want to do something that is a skilled trade which is primarily what vocational schools do. You need more than just that. In this country, school should be free for those who cannot afford it. Its a damn shame that people graduated this past weekend from most colleges and have over $100,000 in debt. We waste so much money in this country its embarrassing. That's money that could go toward someone's education which will only benefit everyone in the end, including the federal government.
So you're OK with other people paying for stuff so you can have it for free... is that what you're saying?
Thats nice....as long as you want to do something that is a skilled trade which is primarily what vocational schools do. You need more than just that. In this country, school should be free for those who cannot afford it. Its a damn shame that people graduated this past weekend from most colleges and have over $100,000 in debt. We waste so much money in this country its embarrassing. That's money that could go toward someone's education which will only benefit everyone in the end, including the federal government.
So you're OK with other people paying for stuff so you can have it for free... is that what you're saying?
Investing in our workforce makes the country more competitive in all aspects. Free education (through high school) is what gives us one of the best militaries in the world in comparison to poorly educated conscripts. You do need at least high school education to learn to effectively use high tech weapons and tactics.
In a world where cyber-warfare will be a component of the next war having free higher education for those students who qualify strengthens the nation. Merit based programs like Georgia's HOPE scholarship or Florida's Future Scholarship Program at a National level would be a worthwhile investment.
As far as "who pays" it turns out lottery players pay. And no, I don't mind paying a little for a stronger country even if it is someone else's kids that directly benefit.
Given that college education is becoming the norm, I don't see any issue with extending publicly funded education another 2 years to cover Community College like in Tennessee to help provide the additional education a modern service based workforce needs.
We actually manufacture more today than we have before but increased automation has kept that manufacturing growth from stemming job losses and the kinds of labor intensive manufacturing has obviously moved overseas.
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Who pays the trillion dollars for our wars in the middle east? Same people. I'd rather not spend it on pointless foreign wars and pay for an educated citizenry instead.
You're rewriting history. We had growth and pulled out of the recession under Obama. The recession that came during Bush and the banking implosion.
A better question and its answer:
Who benefits from "free" roads and "free" education? Everyone.
We can agree on this. Nothing is free. What is important is spending on that which creates the most benefit for the most people. Infrastructure, education, the health and wellbeing of our population would be the best place to start.
All of the arguments in favor of privatizing roads are laughably stupid from a pubic good point of view.
We agree on this, too! Let's start by reducing the obscene amount of money we spend on our military and on wars such as those in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. Sadly, the US is no longer viewed as the world's savior and beacon of hope and light as it was after WWII. Let's remove our troops overseas and require countries like Germany, South Korea and Japan, etc, to pay for their own defense. We spend more money on our military than the next 10 countries combined and most of those countries are our allies!
In a world where cyber-warfare will be a component of the next war having free higher education for those students who qualify strengthens the nation. Merit based programs like Georgia's HOPE scholarship or Florida's Future Scholarship Program at a National level would be a worthwhile investment.
As far as "who pays" it turns out lottery players pay. And no, I don't mind paying a little for a stronger country even if it is someone else's kids that directly benefit.
Given that college education is becoming the norm, I don't see any issue with extending publicly funded education another 2 years to cover Community College like in Tennessee to help provide the additional education a modern service based workforce needs.
We actually manufacture more today than we have before but increased automation has kept that manufacturing growth from stemming job losses and the kinds of labor intensive manufacturing has obviously moved overseas.