<strong>could you please read my topic... the answer is there... tnx</strong><hr></blockquote>
no one will post there, since there was a thread started on this topic several days before you started yours (pointlessly).
this board is chock-full-of threads, many of which serve no purpose, because people start a thread without bothering to see if the same thing already exists.
"Last week, IBM researchers announced that they'd built silicon germanium transistors with a speed of 110 gigahertz - the fastest ever recorded. By year's end, they'll be building these transistors into chips at the Essex Junction plant.
The speed of the new transistors are only part of their appeal, says Myerson.
''Silicon-germanium chips are basically silicon,'' he said. ''Ninety-nine percent of the process steps are common.''
That means that IBM can build the chips on the same production line as its other silicon products, like the PowerPC chips used in Apple Computer Inc.'s Macintosh line. The only major difference is an extra step in which germanium vapor is deposited onto the silicon. Myerson said his firm's chips will not only be faster than those made with exotic materials, but also cheaper to make."
"Last week, IBM researchers announced that they'd built silicon germanium transistors with a speed of 110 gigahertz - the fastest ever recorded. By year's end, they'll be building these transistors into chips at the Essex Junction plant.
The speed of the new transistors are only part of their appeal, says Myerson.
''Silicon-germanium chips are basically silicon,'' he said. ''Ninety-nine percent of the process steps are common.''
That means that IBM can build the chips on the same production line as its other silicon products, like the PowerPC chips used in Apple Computer Inc.'s Macintosh line. The only major difference is an extra step in which germanium vapor is deposited onto the silicon. Myerson said his firm's chips will not only be faster than those made with exotic materials, but also cheaper to make."
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I can't believe the guy who works at IBM mentioned Apple computer in this article. This is GREAT news.
Check out the last sentence of the article:
''The dinosaur just ran over the rabbit,'' he boasted.
I'll believe it when I see it. Many, many things get developed in the labs of Motorola and IBM...implementing them in chips that Apple can use is a far different exercise.
IT WILL NOT BE USED IN ANY PROCESS USED TO PRODUCE A DESKTOP CPU!
THIS IS A BIPOLAR PROCESS NOT CMOS!
It is definately a cool technology and a great demonstration of SiGe but it has no bearing on the CPU world and therefore no bearing on Apple.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, why did the guy who works for IBM mention that it'll speed up PowerPC chips such as the ones that go into Apple computers?
Well, why did the guy who works for IBM mention that it'll speed up PowerPC chips such as the ones that go into Apple computers?
See my post above for the exact quote.</strong><hr></blockquote>
sigh, let's read what he said...
"Silicon-germanium chips are basically silicon... Ninety-nine percent of the process steps are common."
This is true because current Bipolar transistors are made on Silicon. He is saying the change to bipolar SiGe from Silicon will not be as significant as a change from fabricating bipolar transistors on GaAs instead of Si.
"That means that IBM can build the chips on the same production line as its other silicon products, like the PowerPC chips used in Apple Computer Inc.'s Macintosh line."
First off this quote is from the reporter and not the IBM representative. Secondly all it is saying is that IBM will make these HBT's in it's Burlington fab along side its standard silicon products. The author mentions Apple simply because that is probally the only customer of IBM is he currently aware that he feels the public could relate to. In actuallity after talking to some IBM reps myself two weeks ago they are much more focused on their 'Gecko' processor for Nintendo than their G3 processors for Apple.
And you seemed to have missed this part of the article which i will highlight for you.
"Silicon germanium chips use a fundamentally different circuit design from general-purpose microprocessors like the Intel Corp. Pentium or the Athlon line from AMD. These standard processors use an architecture known as complementary metal oxide semiconductor, or CMOS, which is well-suited to desktop computing.
[speaking of the design used by IBM]An alternative chip design, known as ''bipolar architecture,''
If you don't believe me and want to go on thinking you'll see this technology in a desktop processor than go ahead, I can't stop you. But I know a thing or two about this and I'm trying to tell you the reality of the situation.
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<strong>could you please read my topic... the answer is there... tnx</strong><hr></blockquote>
no one will post there, since there was a thread started on this topic several days before you started yours (pointlessly).
this board is chock-full-of threads, many of which serve no purpose, because people start a thread without bothering to see if the same thing already exists.
What do you think of this article ?
"Last week, IBM researchers announced that they'd built silicon germanium transistors with a speed of 110 gigahertz - the fastest ever recorded. By year's end, they'll be building these transistors into chips at the Essex Junction plant.
The speed of the new transistors are only part of their appeal, says Myerson.
''Silicon-germanium chips are basically silicon,'' he said. ''Ninety-nine percent of the process steps are common.''
That means that IBM can build the chips on the same production line as its other silicon products, like the PowerPC chips used in Apple Computer Inc.'s Macintosh line. The only major difference is an extra step in which germanium vapor is deposited onto the silicon. Myerson said his firm's chips will not only be faster than those made with exotic materials, but also cheaper to make."
<a href="http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/063/business/IBM_to_make_new_chips_at_Vt_plant+.shtml"; target="_blank">http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/063/business/IBM_to_make_new_chips_at_Vt_plant+.shtml</a>;
<strong>Ok sorry so here it is...
What do you think of this article ?
"Last week, IBM researchers announced that they'd built silicon germanium transistors with a speed of 110 gigahertz - the fastest ever recorded. By year's end, they'll be building these transistors into chips at the Essex Junction plant.
The speed of the new transistors are only part of their appeal, says Myerson.
''Silicon-germanium chips are basically silicon,'' he said. ''Ninety-nine percent of the process steps are common.''
That means that IBM can build the chips on the same production line as its other silicon products, like the PowerPC chips used in Apple Computer Inc.'s Macintosh line. The only major difference is an extra step in which germanium vapor is deposited onto the silicon. Myerson said his firm's chips will not only be faster than those made with exotic materials, but also cheaper to make."
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I can't believe the guy who works at IBM mentioned Apple computer in this article. This is GREAT news.
Check out the last sentence of the article:
''The dinosaur just ran over the rabbit,'' he boasted.
Now what do you people think it means??
It doesn't even sound like it's any sort of real CPU, merely an integrated circuit.
THIS WILL NOT BE USED IN A POWERPC PROCESSOR!
IT WILL NOT BE USED IN ANY PROCESS USED TO PRODUCE A DESKTOP CPU!
THIS IS A BIPOLAR PROCESS NOT CMOS!
It is definately a cool technology and a great demonstration of SiGe but it has no bearing on the CPU world and therefore no bearing on Apple.
<strong>Once again.
THIS WILL NOT BE USED IN A POWERPC PROCESSOR!
IT WILL NOT BE USED IN ANY PROCESS USED TO PRODUCE A DESKTOP CPU!
THIS IS A BIPOLAR PROCESS NOT CMOS!
It is definately a cool technology and a great demonstration of SiGe but it has no bearing on the CPU world and therefore no bearing on Apple.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, why did the guy who works for IBM mention that it'll speed up PowerPC chips such as the ones that go into Apple computers?
See my post above for the exact quote.
<strong>Steve will demonstrate that a Dual 1GHz will kick its ass in the Gaussian blur.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Lol.. I almost fell of my chair.
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Well, why did the guy who works for IBM mention that it'll speed up PowerPC chips such as the ones that go into Apple computers?
See my post above for the exact quote.</strong><hr></blockquote>
sigh, let's read what he said...
"Silicon-germanium chips are basically silicon... Ninety-nine percent of the process steps are common."
This is true because current Bipolar transistors are made on Silicon. He is saying the change to bipolar SiGe from Silicon will not be as significant as a change from fabricating bipolar transistors on GaAs instead of Si.
"That means that IBM can build the chips on the same production line as its other silicon products, like the PowerPC chips used in Apple Computer Inc.'s Macintosh line."
First off this quote is from the reporter and not the IBM representative. Secondly all it is saying is that IBM will make these HBT's in it's Burlington fab along side its standard silicon products. The author mentions Apple simply because that is probally the only customer of IBM is he currently aware that he feels the public could relate to. In actuallity after talking to some IBM reps myself two weeks ago they are much more focused on their 'Gecko' processor for Nintendo than their G3 processors for Apple.
And you seemed to have missed this part of the article which i will highlight for you.
"Silicon germanium chips use a fundamentally different circuit design from general-purpose microprocessors like the Intel Corp. Pentium or the Athlon line from AMD. These standard processors use an architecture known as complementary metal oxide semiconductor, or CMOS, which is well-suited to desktop computing.
[speaking of the design used by IBM]An alternative chip design, known as ''bipolar architecture,''
If you don't believe me and want to go on thinking you'll see this technology in a desktop processor than go ahead, I can't stop you. But I know a thing or two about this and I'm trying to tell you the reality of the situation.