British Mac magazines...

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Why are they SO much better?!?!







Just came from Barnes & Noble where I spent some time reading through the UK Macworld and another called MacFormat (I think that was the name). They were HUGE. They were thick. They had great design, illustration, typography, "how to" articles, kick-ass photography, more in-depth reviews, more detailed articles about hardware and software, entire sections on how to do cool stuff with the iApps, etc.



In every possible way, these two magazines kicked the living crap out of Macworld and MacAddict combined: content, style, design, bang-for-the-buck, etc.



Anyone know why this is?



I stumbled across an old Macworld I had from 1996 and it's as thick and content-packed as a regular issue of Vogue or Vanity Fair. It's just under half-an-inch thick!!! And had TONS of cool stuff in it.



So, at one point, U.S. Mac magazines (Macworld and MacUser) were like this. What happened?







I get them now and they're really thin, overpacked with ads and - to be frank - quite lamely written, illustrated, etc.



Just an observation. But a right one, of course.



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  • Reply 1 of 27
    Not to mention, they are about 2 to 3 dollars more expensive than most magazines I buy. Whats up with that? I can see why the inported magazines would be expensive, but domestic ones?
  • Reply 2 of 27
    rodukroduk Posts: 706member
    [quote]Originally posted by pscates:

    <strong>Why are they SO much better?!?!





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    I guess they're written to reflect their intended audience.







    (And I don't mean huge and thick )



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  • Reply 3 of 27
    Or perhaps it's because we get crapped on by Apple for everything else (no iPhoto ordering, no .mac, no apple retail stores, extortionate mark-ups...) something needs to make up for it!
  • Reply 4 of 27
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    True. Good answer.



  • Reply 5 of 27
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    One annoying thing on both US and UK Mac magazines:



    Over 50% of pages in these magazines are ads.



    annoying annoying annoying....
  • Reply 6 of 27
    I prefer those imported magazines as well.. Last time, i bought the MacFormat.. it came with a free CD-ROM in a jewel case as well as a sealed CDR too.. nice. MacDirectory is a good bi-monthly Mac mag. in the US.
  • Reply 7 of 27
    MacUser is really good, very well designed and laid out, and from this month on- free cds.
  • Reply 8 of 27
    Its because we pay so much in bloody taxes we have to have big magazines too make that £5 all the worth while. It's a plot by tony blair so we dont march on downing street when they raise taxes every year.
  • Reply 9 of 27
    costiquecostique Posts: 1,084member
    I got 2 MacPower (Japan) issues by chance and was shocked. Half-an-inch thick, stuffed with UNIX/Mac OS X tutorials and how-tos, endless shareware and hardware reviews, (dis)assembling instructions and God knows what else. CD-ROM, of course.

    I almost broke into lament that I wasn't born in Japan. Damn I can't read in Japanese.

    And you know what? It occurred to me that Winblows users don't have such magazines. And they never will.
  • Reply 10 of 27
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    Yeah, the British Mac magazines are much better. Every once in a while when I'm in Barnes and Nobel I'll pick up one of them and end up buying it.
  • Reply 11 of 27
    amoryaamorya Posts: 1,103member
    I've actually got every issue of MacFormat from 26 to about 112 - I stopped collecting them after that, but I still read back over them sometimes. One of them had a tutorial in pseudo-code of how to do fuzzy logic when searching a database! That was really useful in my computer science class.



    Amorya
  • Reply 12 of 27
    I like MacFormat, but Borders is selling it at amost US $20 here.
  • Reply 13 of 27
    overhopeoverhope Posts: 1,123member
    Funnily enough, they used to be even better.



    Any UK readers remember The Mac? Great magazine, always chock full of good stuff, and came with not one but two (2!) cover mounted... 700k floppies. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    That said, in the UK we don't have Apple Stores (yet!), we don't get anywhere near as many TV ads as the States and our Macworlds are pretty much village-fete affairs.
  • Reply 14 of 27
    messiahmessiah Posts: 1,689member
    MacUser is the best. No question about it. And it's fortnightly so you can get anxious and dance around outside the newsagents twice as many times as with other leading brands TM.
  • Reply 15 of 27
    mimacmimac Posts: 872member
    S'funny, but I thought the same thing too <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />



    I've bought a few MacAddict magazines imported from the States and while they have cost the same as MacFormat here, the MacAddict mag was printed on inferior paper with a lot less content and very little in the way of tutorials... though there was a good CD with it.



    I've also noticed that most of the US mags available here are printed on thinner, less glossy paper ... is this a common thing with magazines over there?
  • Reply 16 of 27
    giaguaragiaguara Posts: 2,724member
    Hehe. I still haven't seen my Apple... the mail must have stolen my Macformat march number.
  • Reply 17 of 27
    [quote]Originally posted by pscates:

    <strong>Why are they SO much better?!?!







    Just came from Barnes & Noble where I spent some time reading through the UK Macworld and another called MacFormat (I think that was the name). </strong><hr></blockquote>



    You must check out MacUser... visually it is the best Mac Magazine on the market. MacFormat is another favourite but the added bonus of MacUser is that instead of coming out every month it comes out every 2 weeks satisfying my Mac news cravings twice as much as the competition.
  • Reply 18 of 27
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    Well, we're all in "aggreance" here (a little tip of the hat to Mr. Durst... ) about the sorry state of US Mac magazines compared to what's available in the UK and Japan.



    The question STILL stands: why?



    :confused:



    Apple is an American company with lots of passionate Mac users are strewn throughout the nation, in a wide range of occupations, skill levels, usage styles, etc.



    You would think that someone would go "you know, we can do better than this..." (even if it's Macworld themselves).



    I just find it really odd. So skimpy and lightweight, these offerings are (why am I talking like Yoda?).



    Yeah, one could say that the Internet has rendered some of the news types of things useless. And I agree...you can go to maccentral or macminute.com a bazillion times a day to get the latest. By the time your magazine arrives, it's all old news. Fair enough.



    However, what the Internet doesn't necessarily excel at is indepth articles with accompanying illustrations or photography, tutorials, etc. I mean, it's done. But people like to read that stuff in a tangible, "take it with them" magazine format I'm betting. The Internet is never going to fully replace print, if for no other reason than people simply aren't going to give up reading in the john, doing the "lay in bed on a Sunday morning with the huge Sunday paper" thing and simply sitting in a park, on a couch, a patio, etc. and reading.



    So I think there is a hunger and a market for some of these things on THIS side of the Atlantic (and Pacific). I'd love to see Macworld go back to that approach: thick issues, CRAMMED with great articles, reviews, how-to's, etc. and augmented with awesome photography, cutaway illustrations, infographics, more comparison charts/graphs, etc.



    Anyone think that's a bad thing? I'm sure one or two of the usual suspects will tell me why this "can't happen", but as usual I'll ignore them because they're wrong about every other damn thing...



  • Reply 19 of 27
    spookyspooky Posts: 504member
    you guys get the cool hardware and software first and at much lower prices (and apple also invests in the odd college or two)



    and



    we get extortionate prices and better magazines.



    I know which I'd rather have.





    On another note, over the last 10 or so years I've seen an increasing number of cross platform or even solely PC ads in mac magazines in the uk but I've never seen a mac advert in a PC magazine.



    oh well another example of apple's brilliant "let's preach to the converted" marketing strategy
  • Reply 20 of 27
    mattyjmattyj Posts: 898member
    Well, the thing is, there is an Apple store, its just not called an Apple store. It is in London, off Totenham(sp?) Court Road. Great service there, great advice, even gavce me about £8 off a carry case for my iPod because the manager couldn't help with something on the spot.
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