Well, I decided to keep iTunes version 12.6.2 on my Sierra HD. In a few weeks, I'll clone the HD and upgrade that one to High Sierra with iTunes version 12.7. Then when I need to manage my iOS devices, I'll use the Sierra HD iTunes. Just in case, I downloaded the iTunes 12.6.2 installer.
... I never liked the everything and the kitchen sink approach of iTunes...
I always felt it was more a "boil the frog" sort of bloat, where it was fine (or at least not so annoying) at first and for a long time. Then all of a sudden you realised how big the thing had got and how many separate functions it had rolled in, but by then the frog had been well boiled, and it's been that way for some time now.
This is a good move, can't wait to see more trimming and streamlining, it's well past time.
I really want a dedicated Apple Podcasts app on macOS. De-bloat her.
Love how they begin to remove bloat and the first two comments are complaints. Ha.
Why a separate app for podcasts? Seems like adding more apps to macOS which kind of has the opposite effect to debloating everything. You're just moving the problem from one place to another.
That’s totally untrue. Separating Podcasts to its own app would be ideal for me as I never intersperse music listening with Podcast listening. The way the killed iPhoto and started fresh with Photos; now Photos is a much nicer app. I was a clean, lean, new app solely for Apple Podcasts. A ground up Podcasts app for Mac and the modern age. iTunes need only be a music and video store and jukebox.
This is a HUGE change with no prior warning. This basically neuters iTunes as a device management tool and basically turns it into a music player. At this point Apple should really just beef up the MiniPlayer to be the only UI and be done with the big UI version altogether. I guess I'm okay with it but this is a blindsided and unexpected move that's going to catch a lot of people off guard, especially current Sierra (not High Sierra) users.
How so? You can still manage your device via iTunes, you just don't shop for iOS apps on it. They've been deprecating the storing of iOS apps on the Mac for a while now, so there was most definitely some warning there.
Agreed. App management through iTunes was a bit annoying. When I connected my phone or iPad to update music, it would try to load or reload every app we ever downloaded. My wife uses apps that I don't and vice versa.
...could this also be an attempt to force all iOS devices online and directly connect to the 'mothership'...???
Will Apple now know what is actually on every iOS device, and encourage iCloud vs local storage? Will multiple iOS users (companies, families) need more time to update and use more bandwidth when doing so? Does this affect admin and server efficiency and user consistency?
The link mentioned is to current version, not previous - even the Apple page that lists previous versions brings to the current version, unless you want to go to iTunes from a year ago.
try this one - it's working as of this morning
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1934?locale=en_US
...could this also be an attempt to force all iOS devices online and directly connect to the 'mothership'...???
Will Apple now know what is actually on every iOS device, and encourage iCloud vs local storage? Will multiple iOS users (companies, families) need more time to update and use more bandwidth when doing so? Does this affect admin and server efficiency and user consistency?
To find out, tune in next week! Same Bat-time, same Bat-channel!
Point 1: Apple already knows what's on your device. Not sure where you get the idea they don't. Point 2: No. Use WiFi Point 3: No. Use WiFi
The link mentioned is to current version, not previous - even the Apple page that lists previous versions brings to the current version, unless you want to go to iTunes from a year ago.
try this one - it's working as of this morning
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1934?locale=en_US
Just tried the links and they are still coming up with version 12.6.2
So, no more creating your own ringtone and uploading it to your phone? There are still apps where you use iTunes to push documents to it, those are now toast. Not a fan.
Scared me there for a minute. I am always pushing document to apps on my iPad (GoodReader, Notability, etc.), so this would have ticked me off. I looked at the new interface and if you click on your device, there's a new setting called "File Sharing." All of your apps that allow for file sharing show up, just like they used to. It just doesn't have that list of all of the apps you have on your device to install, uninstall etc.
He might mean the ability to resume your playback from application shutdown. Currently you have to look in Notification Center at what song was playing last and then go find it manually in your library.
For me this de-bloating is welcome as I only have a Classic iPod. But after today's upgrade I cannot change the height of the columns "genre/artists/albuns" in the Columns Browser. I tried positioning the mouse all over the area and it does not allow to change the height. Is this happening only to me?
...could this also be an attempt to force all iOS devices online and directly connect to the 'mothership'...???
Will Apple now know what is actually on every iOS device, and encourage iCloud vs local storage? Will multiple iOS users (companies, families) need more time to update and use more bandwidth when doing so? Does this affect admin and server efficiency and user consistency?
To find out, tune in next week! Same Bat-time, same Bat-channel!
Point 1: Apple already knows what's on your device. Not sure where you get the idea they don't. Point 2: No. Use WiFi Point 3: No. Use WiFi
Hi Rayz...
I'm guessing there are a number of assumptions made for this thread...
Routinely if using Mac server, app downloads updates once to the cache and local updates can load over the network to multiple iOS devices - with basic dsl even a point update can take 20~30m to download, so with a family of 4 could that quadruple or octuple the download/bandwidth time & data used if iPhones and iPads are limited to WiFi/4G direct ?
Would Apple know what is on each device if they are not signed in to the Apple Store/iCloud and only connected/updated on a LAN behind a firewall, and the apps have been managed on a Mac server desktop...?
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This is a good move, can't wait to see more trimming and streamlining, it's well past time.
Will Apple now know what is actually on every iOS device, and encourage iCloud vs local storage?
Will multiple iOS users (companies, families) need more time to update and use more bandwidth when doing so?
Does this affect admin and server efficiency and user consistency?
To find out, tune in next week! Same Bat-time, same Bat-channel!
Point 1: Apple already knows what's on your device. Not sure where you get the idea they don't.
Point 2: No. Use WiFi
Point 3: No. Use WiFi
I'm guessing there are a number of assumptions made for this thread...
Routinely if using Mac server, app downloads updates once to the cache and local updates can load over the network to multiple iOS devices - with basic dsl even a point update can take 20~30m to download, so with a family of 4 could that quadruple or octuple the download/bandwidth time & data used if iPhones and iPads are limited to WiFi/4G direct ?
Would Apple know what is on each device if they are not signed in to the Apple Store/iCloud and only connected/updated on a LAN behind a firewall, and the apps have been managed on a Mac server desktop...?
Just asking...