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  • Reply 61 of 85
    19831983 Posts: 1,225member
    When I first upgraded to iOS 11 my 5S (already with problematic battery life issues, its an old iPhone) got a lot worse. But after the sub-point updates things settled down, and the battery life actually seemed to improve over iOS 10. But after 4 years I've finally mothballed my venerable 5S and upgraded to an 8 Plus...no problems with that one so far.
    edited October 2017
  • Reply 62 of 85
    As Rene Ritchie of iMore noted, use the iOS 11 calculator app and quickly enter this calculation:  1 + 2 + 3 

    The iOS 11 animations prevent normal operations because they are so intrusive. The calculator slows down and it interferes to the point of affecting calculations.

    Exactly.  The answer is 24 apparently.
    "New math".


    "Fake Math"!

    I just tried it. Damn!

    SpamSandwich
  • Reply 63 of 85
    My 6S battery issues were solved (mostly) with the 11.0.3 update but the keyboard/typing lag was so bad it was one of the reasons I sold the phone. Using an old 5S now awaiting (hopefully) a new 4"er in the spring - incidentally, the 5S is running perfectly fine on 11.0.3.
  • Reply 64 of 85
    Ok, maybe I need to wait for my visit to the Apple store to change my battery. I have a Apple case and that seems to be unaffected. Without the case my battery will go from 100% to 30% in one and a half hour.

    A bit OT but related to iOS 11. My system files eat up all available storage. System is currently 7gb. The only results I get from searching the problem is people durring the BETA period. Backing up and restoring does not help.
  • Reply 65 of 85
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,513member
    My wife just told me her iPad Air 2 autoupdated in the early hours. This after constant nagging and her putting the update off each time. 

    Then on restart she was presented with all the new terms and conditions of different services which are hard not to accept in most cases as I imagine you would lose something you had before if you reject them.

    If what she is telling me is correct, this type of stealth updating really irritates me. 

    Now we'll have to see what 'damage' has been done. I fully expect to be dumped into iTunes Hell in short order as, if past situations are anything to go by, this new system will require the latest version of iTunes which in turn will require the latest version of macOS - neither of which are she is currently running.

    At this point, all I can do is cross my fingers and prey.

    This being such a MAJOR iOS update, the user should have been prompted to OK the update specifically.

    And while we're on the subject of petty but potentially damaging updates, I also see that macOS updates are reminded with a dialog box that only gives two options (install or later). There is no simple 'no' option from the reminder.

    It's the stuff that makes my blood boil.
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 66 of 85
    avon b7 said:
    My wife just told me her iPad Air 2 autoupdated in the early hours. This after constant nagging and her putting the update off each time. 

    Then on restart she was presented with all the new terms and conditions of different services which are hard not to accept in most cases as I imagine you would lose something you had before if you reject them.

    If what she is telling me is correct, this type of stealth updating really irritates me. 

    Now we'll have to see what 'damage' has been done. I fully expect to be dumped into iTunes Hell in short order as, if past situations are anything to go by, this new system will require the latest version of iTunes which in turn will require the latest version of macOS - neither of which are she is currently running.

    At this point, all I can do is cross my fingers and prey.

    This being such a MAJOR iOS update, the user should have been prompted to OK the update specifically.

    And while we're on the subject of petty but potentially damaging updates, I also see that macOS updates are reminded with a dialog box that only gives two options (install or later). There is no simple 'no' option from the reminder.

    It's the stuff that makes my blood boil.

    iPad Air 2 autoupdated in the early hours - I don't think auto-updation happens. It could be a case of someone updating it by mistake, without realizing it - accidentally pressing the update option due to the constant nagging. In my case, my iPad Air (1st generation) was updated to iOS 10 by my daughter while she was trying to install a game. We learnt the lesson hard way that we should not give the passcode to kids even for the purpose of installing games. Now I am left with an iPad Air which is damn slow due to iOS 10. At least it is stable, unlike iOS 8 which was one of the worst updates (frequent restarts, app crashes) that my iPad air ever went through. This constant nagging for updating the software should be STOPPED.

    airnerd
  • Reply 67 of 85
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,513member
    avon b7 said:
    My wife just told me her iPad Air 2 autoupdated in the early hours. This after constant nagging and her putting the update off each time. 

    Then on restart she was presented with all the new terms and conditions of different services which are hard not to accept in most cases as I imagine you would lose something you had before if you reject them.

    If what she is telling me is correct, this type of stealth updating really irritates me. 

    Now we'll have to see what 'damage' has been done. I fully expect to be dumped into iTunes Hell in short order as, if past situations are anything to go by, this new system will require the latest version of iTunes which in turn will require the latest version of macOS - neither of which are she is currently running.

    At this point, all I can do is cross my fingers and prey.

    This being such a MAJOR iOS update, the user should have been prompted to OK the update specifically.

    And while we're on the subject of petty but potentially damaging updates, I also see that macOS updates are reminded with a dialog box that only gives two options (install or later). There is no simple 'no' option from the reminder.

    It's the stuff that makes my blood boil.

    iPad Air 2 autoupdated in the early hours - I don't think auto-updation happens. It could be a case of someone updating it by mistake, without realizing it - accidentally pressing the update option due to the constant nagging. In my case, my iPad Air (1st generation) was updated to iOS 10 by my daughter while she was trying to install a game. We learnt the lesson hard way that we should not give the passcode to kids even for the purpose of installing games. Now I am left with an iPad Air which is damn slow due to iOS 10. At least it is stable, unlike iOS 8 which was one of the worst updates (frequent restarts, app crashes) that my iPad air ever went through. This constant nagging for updating the software should be STOPPED.

    I asked my wife if she had done something to trigger it but she said she hadn't. I asked about an accidental update and she said no to that too.

    I was actually sitting next to her for a couple of hours on the sofa while the battery dwindled down to 7% and she plugged it in to charge before going to bed so I'm sure the update wasn't preparing while she was using it as there was too little charge on the device. This was 2am. On waking up this morning she got the bad news.

    Although I haven't checked the update process in detail, my understanding was that the system should ask you for a passcode at some point before proceeding with the update but that the input of the passcode isn't necessarily immediately before the update but sometimes when you put it off to a later date. She insists she never went through the process as she uses TouchID and I believe her (sometimes you have to doubt but this time I was there by her side). I unlocked the iPad last night using the passcode but it was only to unlock the device, not in response to a dialog and there was nothing to indicate that the update was pending as a result of inputting the passcode (something that was required as TouchID doesn't have my print on her iPad.

    This is the second time we have suffered unwanted auto updates on an iDevice and it is a real pain seeing as this is something that should always be an in your face action that you explicitly authorise, not something that can be slipped silently onto a device in the early hours.

    We'll see how things go but we deliberately held off updating fora few reasons and to have it update this way is very annoying.

  • Reply 68 of 85
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 2,075member
    lmntary said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    This is crazy! I have had no issues with my 7 Plus with any of the iterations of iOS 11.
    Well it’s not all that surprising. 

    Bear in mind that if something is wrong then people complain. 

    If everything is is okay then folk say nothing at all. 

    Is this a widespread problem? It might be, but the internet is not the best place to find out, not from Apple’s viewpoint anyway. What usually happens is that one person says they have a problem, then ten other people think they have the same issue, when in fact the performance of their phone hasn’t actually changed. Do not underestimate the power of the group mind. 
    Rayz2016
    Doubt I'm the only one to observe... your invitation to stick one's head in the sand is annoying. 
    There are widespread problems with iOS 11 -- stop doing the "nothing to see here" wave and pay attention.
     
    I'm an iPhone and iPad owner since first release of each. Now have a 6+ and an iPad Pro.  Not as toys -- I count on each of them as tools to get through my working day.
    Both devices have turned to shit under iOS11. Visual vx mail, email, camera, calendar, general sluggishness, freezes, missed key strokes, stuttering. Daily hard-resets required. I hadn't yet noticed the calculator issue, but it's pretty freakin' easy to replicate. That's not any kind of "group mind." 

    I would do a slick and fresh install but I can't get my photos to sync right now and don't want to lose them.  Yes, battery life has also decreased significantly.  Restoring the background activities that defaulted to "all-on" under iOS 11 install did help some.

    The issues will get fixed eventually, like they almost always do. Meanwhile don't patronize those who are alarmed by meaningful failures in Apple's commitment toward excellence. By identifying the issues they are driving the fix process and also reflecting the fact that Apple users give a damn. Apple needs this feedback just like any other customer-serving organization. Hopefully they are listening.
    I'm not impressed when Apple says X% of the users have updated to a new OS.    There are always issues with a new OS .    Fortunately my phones are still on 10.   But my iPad Air 2 got updated to 11 and is now a little slow.   Apple is the flip side of Android's slow or nonexistent updates.   When a new OS is released apple should still still provide security updates to the old OS for 3-4 months.
  • Reply 69 of 85
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 2,075member
    avon b7 said:
    My wife just told me her iPad Air 2 autoupdated in the early hours. This after constant nagging and her putting the update off each time. 

    Then on restart she was presented with all the new terms and conditions of different services which are hard not to accept in most cases as I imagine you would lose something you had before if you reject them.

    If what she is telling me is correct, this type of stealth updating really irritates me. 

    Now we'll have to see what 'damage' has been done. I fully expect to be dumped into iTunes Hell in short order as, if past situations are anything to go by, this new system will require the latest version of iTunes which in turn will require the latest version of macOS - neither of which are she is currently running.

    At this point, all I can do is cross my fingers and prey.

    This being such a MAJOR iOS update, the user should have been prompted to OK the update specifically.

    And while we're on the subject of petty but potentially damaging updates, I also see that macOS updates are reminded with a dialog box that only gives two options (install or later). There is no simple 'no' option from the reminder.

    It's the stuff that makes my blood boil.
    I call this ANNOYWARE.   It keeps Annoying you on a daily basis until you break down and upgrade to the next version.   You would think that they would atleast give you one day before nagging you again.   Its one of the things that always have me looking at Android phones.   That and SIRI which seems to be falling even further behind.   For now every Flagship that comes out that I may be interested seems to have one feature that I know I would not like (Galaxy S8 and Note 8 have great screens but finger print scanner next to camera, Essential phone beautiful design with a bad camera, Pixel 2 finally updates and google services but OLED Screen issues).

    Apple still has strengths over Android.    I just hope we finally get a newer much better SIRI because I think that's where APPLE is really falling behind Alexa and OK Google..
  • Reply 70 of 85
    avon b7 said:
    avon b7 said:
    My wife just told me her iPad Air 2 autoupdated in the early hours. This after constant nagging and her putting the update off each time. 

    Then on restart she was presented with all the new terms and conditions of different services which are hard not to accept in most cases as I imagine you would lose something you had before if you reject them.

    If what she is telling me is correct, this type of stealth updating really irritates me. 

    Now we'll have to see what 'damage' has been done. I fully expect to be dumped into iTunes Hell in short order as, if past situations are anything to go by, this new system will require the latest version of iTunes which in turn will require the latest version of macOS - neither of which are she is currently running.

    At this point, all I can do is cross my fingers and prey.

    This being such a MAJOR iOS update, the user should have been prompted to OK the update specifically.

    And while we're on the subject of petty but potentially damaging updates, I also see that macOS updates are reminded with a dialog box that only gives two options (install or later). There is no simple 'no' option from the reminder.

    It's the stuff that makes my blood boil.

    iPad Air 2 autoupdated in the early hours - I don't think auto-updation happens. It could be a case of someone updating it by mistake, without realizing it - accidentally pressing the update option due to the constant nagging. In my case, my iPad Air (1st generation) was updated to iOS 10 by my daughter while she was trying to install a game. We learnt the lesson hard way that we should not give the passcode to kids even for the purpose of installing games. Now I am left with an iPad Air which is damn slow due to iOS 10. At least it is stable, unlike iOS 8 which was one of the worst updates (frequent restarts, app crashes) that my iPad air ever went through. This constant nagging for updating the software should be STOPPED.

    I asked my wife if she had done something to trigger it but she said she hadn't. I asked about an accidental update and she said no to that too.

    I was actually sitting next to her for a couple of hours on the sofa while the battery dwindled down to 7% and she plugged it in to charge before going to bed so I'm sure the update wasn't preparing while she was using it as there was too little charge on the device. This was 2am. On waking up this morning she got the bad news.

    Although I haven't checked the update process in detail, my understanding was that the system should ask you for a passcode at some point before proceeding with the update but that the input of the passcode isn't necessarily immediately before the update but sometimes when you put it off to a later date. She insists she never went through the process as she uses TouchID and I believe her (sometimes you have to doubt but this time I was there by her side). I unlocked the iPad last night using the passcode but it was only to unlock the device, not in response to a dialog and there was nothing to indicate that the update was pending as a result of inputting the passcode (something that was required as TouchID doesn't have my print on her iPad.

    This is the second time we have suffered unwanted auto updates on an iDevice and it is a real pain seeing as this is something that should always be an in your face action that you explicitly authorise, not something that can be slipped silently onto a device in the early hours.

    We'll see how things go but we deliberately held off updating fora few reasons and to have it update this way is very annoying.

    What usually happens on my iPad is that it doesn't give me an option to not update.  I get an option that is essentially "Now" or "later" and later prompts for my password.  Then overnight it will update.  So she did agree to it, but not sure how she could NOT have agreed to it.  I haven't researched too much to determine how I can prevent those updates like she had.
  • Reply 71 of 85
    k2kw said:
    avon b7 said:
    My wife just told me her iPad Air 2 autoupdated in the early hours. This after constant nagging and her putting the update off each time. 

    Then on restart she was presented with all the new terms and conditions of different services which are hard not to accept in most cases as I imagine you would lose something you had before if you reject them.

    If what she is telling me is correct, this type of stealth updating really irritates me. 

    Now we'll have to see what 'damage' has been done. I fully expect to be dumped into iTunes Hell in short order as, if past situations are anything to go by, this new system will require the latest version of iTunes which in turn will require the latest version of macOS - neither of which are she is currently running.

    At this point, all I can do is cross my fingers and prey.

    This being such a MAJOR iOS update, the user should have been prompted to OK the update specifically.

    And while we're on the subject of petty but potentially damaging updates, I also see that macOS updates are reminded with a dialog box that only gives two options (install or later). There is no simple 'no' option from the reminder.

    It's the stuff that makes my blood boil.
    I call this ANNOYWARE.   It keeps Annoying you on a daily basis until you break down and upgrade to the next version.   You would think that they would atleast give you one day before nagging you again.   Its one of the things that always have me looking at Android phones.   That and SIRI which seems to be falling even further behind.   For now every Flagship that comes out that I may be interested seems to have one feature that I know I would not like (Galaxy S8 and Note 8 have great screens but finger print scanner next to camera, Essential phone beautiful design with a bad camera, Pixel 2 finally updates and google services but OLED Screen issues).

    Apple still has strengths over Android.    I just hope we finally get a newer much better SIRI because I think that's where APPLE is really falling behind Alexa and OK Google..
    SIRI has always annoyed the fire out of me, simple questions could never be answered.  However she is better now as proved to me last night.  I was talking with my son about the 2011 world series and we were looking at photos.  He wanted to know who the catcher was in the photo.  For the life of me I couldn't remember so I asked Siri on my watch.  I expected "you can view the answer on your phone" or some junk like that.  Instead she returned all 3 catchers on the roster that year with their photo.  

    It's not perfect yet, but none of them are.  SIRI is still getting better though.
  • Reply 72 of 85
    No issues - on our family iOS devices  iPhone 7, iPhone 6s, iPhone 5SE, iPad mini, new iPad.
    battery life is great. no app issues. really no issues at all apart from some minor UI glitches.
    Anyone with battery life issues just needs to check for an app that uses a lot of battery - that app is the problem, not the iOS.
  • Reply 73 of 85
    aricbaricb Posts: 27member
    The "Files" app is garbage. It shows i have 2 files on my iPad. In reality, i have thousands.
  • Reply 74 of 85
    freerangefreerange Posts: 1,597member
    I have a 6s+ and it has shown increased battery drain, sluggish apps, slow to load, occasional crashes/freezing, overall sluggishness. Problems with video calls in FaceTime and Wechat. Some of this may be apps that still need work rather than the OS itself. Seems like more problems / severe problems than normal V1 releases.
  • Reply 75 of 85
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,820administrator
    aricb said:
    The "Files" app is garbage. It shows i have 2 files on my iPad. In reality, i have thousands.
    Third-party apps need to accommodate Files for it to work. What apps are the files stored in?
  • Reply 76 of 85
    I updated to iOS 11.0.3 on an iPhone 6. It almost immediately caused major battery issues it got so bad I had to contact apple. They did a test and claimed the battery was to blame and the phone was 663 days old and the battery was just old! Both my iPhone 5 and 4 never behaved in this way. I then pointed out that my actual phone was replaced about a week before my warrenty was up so my phone was actually only a year old. After that I was passed onto another person they agreed to replace the battery. But did not admit it was iOS upgrade that caused it. I feel sorry for any iPhone 6 users who are having this problem and there are many as I have discovered online. I think I only got a replacement as they realised it was only a year old. I’ve had no issues with BatteryLife on any iPhone and I’ve had the lot obviously there is some battery detariation over the years but not a complete battery drain in a few hours all after upgrade. I hope apple are replacing all iPhone 6 users with this problem.  
  • Reply 77 of 85
    icoco3icoco3 Posts: 1,474member
    As Rene Ritchie of iMore noted, use the iOS 11 calculator app and quickly enter this calculation:  1 + 2 + 3 

    The iOS 11 animations prevent normal operations because they are so intrusive. The calculator slows down and it interferes to the point of affecting calculations.
    The iOS 11 animations prevent normal operations because they are so intrusive. - Yet this affects ONLY the OLDER phones, not the latest iPhone 8 series. Any conspiracy to "slow down" the old phones as part of "planned obsolescence"?
    Oh good, this again.
    My 8+ is doing the same thing...  When I do 1+2+3 it types out 1 then 2 then the readout says 23 and hitting equals says 24.

    Also, in the Music App, hitting Top 25 Most Played crashes the app.  This has happened on on all updates and the stock iOS 11 that came with it.

    I get some lagging on Sim City Buildit but may be just the app even though they have produced an update to add features.  It is the only app doing it so most likely just the app and not the phone.

    I have a first day 8+, 256Gig, iOS 11.0.3

    For older phones that have had a couple or more iOS upgrades and never been wiped and restored....I recommend doing a good back, wiping it and restoring.  It may fix issues.  I have a iPad 4 on iOS 10.3.3 that really lagged.  I backed it up and restored.  It now zips right along and I also gained 4 gig of storage space in the process.  Your mileage may vary, just one mans experience.
    SpamSandwich
  • Reply 78 of 85
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,820administrator
    icoco3 said:
    As Rene Ritchie of iMore noted, use the iOS 11 calculator app and quickly enter this calculation:  1 + 2 + 3 

    The iOS 11 animations prevent normal operations because they are so intrusive. The calculator slows down and it interferes to the point of affecting calculations.
    The iOS 11 animations prevent normal operations because they are so intrusive. - Yet this affects ONLY the OLDER phones, not the latest iPhone 8 series. Any conspiracy to "slow down" the old phones as part of "planned obsolescence"?
    Oh good, this again.
    My 8+ is doing the same thing...  When I do 1+2+3 it types out 1 then 2 then the readout says 23 and hitting equals says 24.

    Also, in the Music App, hitting Top 25 Most Played crashes the app.  This has happened on on all updates and the stock iOS 11 that came with it.

    I get some lagging on Sim City Buildit but may be just the app even though they have produced an update to add features.  It is the only app doing it so most likely just the app and not the phone.

    I have a first day 8+, 256Gig, iOS 11.0.3

    For older phones that have had a couple or more iOS upgrades and never been wiped and restored....I recommend doing a good back, wiping it and restoring.  It may fix issues.  I have a iPad 4 on iOS 10.3.3 that really lagged.  I backed it up and restored.  It now zips right along and I also gained 4 gig of storage space in the process.  Your mileage may vary, just one mans experience.
    I was referring to this part: "Any conspiracy to "slow down" the old phones as part of "planned obsolescence"?"
  • Reply 79 of 85
    icoco3 said:
    As Rene Ritchie of iMore noted, use the iOS 11 calculator app and quickly enter this calculation:  1 + 2 + 3 

    The iOS 11 animations prevent normal operations because they are so intrusive. The calculator slows down and it interferes to the point of affecting calculations.
    The iOS 11 animations prevent normal operations because they are so intrusive. - Yet this affects ONLY the OLDER phones, not the latest iPhone 8 series. Any conspiracy to "slow down" the old phones as part of "planned obsolescence"?
    Oh good, this again.
    My 8+ is doing the same thing...  When I do 1+2+3 it types out 1 then 2 then the readout says 23 and hitting equals says 24.

    Also, in the Music App, hitting Top 25 Most Played crashes the app.  This has happened on on all updates and the stock iOS 11 that came with it.

    I get some lagging on Sim City Buildit but may be just the app even though they have produced an update to add features.  It is the only app doing it so most likely just the app and not the phone.

    I have a first day 8+, 256Gig, iOS 11.0.3

    For older phones that have had a couple or more iOS upgrades and never been wiped and restored....I recommend doing a good back, wiping it and restoring.  It may fix issues.  I have a iPad 4 on iOS 10.3.3 that really lagged.  I backed it up and restored.  It now zips right along and I also gained 4 gig of storage space in the process.  Your mileage may vary, just one mans experience.
    I was referring to this part: "Any conspiracy to "slow down" the old phones as part of "planned obsolescence"?"
    I don't believe the sluggishness is part of a plan to get people to upgrade, it's just poorly tested and implemented software. The basic functions of any iOS update should be rock solid before releasing to the public.
    arie
  • Reply 80 of 85
    icoco3icoco3 Posts: 1,474member
    icoco3 said:
    As Rene Ritchie of iMore noted, use the iOS 11 calculator app and quickly enter this calculation:  1 + 2 + 3 

    The iOS 11 animations prevent normal operations because they are so intrusive. The calculator slows down and it interferes to the point of affecting calculations.
    The iOS 11 animations prevent normal operations because they are so intrusive. - Yet this affects ONLY the OLDER phones, not the latest iPhone 8 series. Any conspiracy to "slow down" the old phones as part of "planned obsolescence"?
    Oh good, this again.
    My 8+ is doing the same thing...  When I do 1+2+3 it types out 1 then 2 then the readout says 23 and hitting equals says 24.

    Also, in the Music App, hitting Top 25 Most Played crashes the app.  This has happened on on all updates and the stock iOS 11 that came with it.

    I get some lagging on Sim City Buildit but may be just the app even though they have produced an update to add features.  It is the only app doing it so most likely just the app and not the phone.

    I have a first day 8+, 256Gig, iOS 11.0.3

    For older phones that have had a couple or more iOS upgrades and never been wiped and restored....I recommend doing a good back, wiping it and restoring.  It may fix issues.  I have a iPad 4 on iOS 10.3.3 that really lagged.  I backed it up and restored.  It now zips right along and I also gained 4 gig of storage space in the process.  Your mileage may vary, just one mans experience.
    I was referring to this part: "Any conspiracy to "slow down" the old phones as part of "planned obsolescence"?"
    Should have started with "agree with you" then proceeded.  My point was on my 8+ i saw something so not just older models and the fact that a backup, wipe, and restore of my iPad did wonders.  People with older devices should try that be moaning about the update.

    The posters point was meaningless as you implied.
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