SAP, Capital One detail work with Jamf in enterprise Mac deployments

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As Apple cements itself as the dominant vendor of premium PCs and mobile devices, corporate IT is increasingly welcoming support for Macs as part of their business. Representatives from SAP and Capital One recently discussed what's involved in bringing Mac choice to their organizations.


Martin Lang, Vice President Enterprise Mobility of SAP at JNUC

SAP

Speaking at this week's Jamf Nation User Conference, the largest Apple-focused IT event in the world, Martin Lang, Vice President Enterprise Mobility at Germany's global business software firm SAP, noted that his company now has 13,000 Macs its manages for its employees using Jamf Pro.

Lang noted some unique issues related to Mac users, including the expectation that their machines will get new OS updates essentially as soon as Apple makes them available. In the Windows world, PCs commonly run the last update that corporate IT has decided to roll out, in part because major Windows updates involve significant licensing fees.

While Apple's macOS and iOS updates are free, deploying new releases to thousands of users and dealing with any compatibility issues can be challenging. At the same time, it also helps keep Macs and iOS devices secure.

Lang noted that across SAP, Jamf Pro has helped his group bring 97 percent of their Mac users up to date on with one of the two most current macOS releases (either Sierra or the just-released High Sierra-- which 15 percent of SAP's Macs are already running).

As with IBM's Mac program and parallel computing choice efforts at other companies, Lang noted that a major selling point in opening up broad support for Macs across the enterprise focused on Total Cost of Ownership, taking into consideration not just the invoice price of new hardware but also support costs and also residual value, as the company can recover greater value in selling their used Macs to third parties after their initial use cycle ends.

Lang also outlined that at SAP, Macs are managed as part of Enterprise Mobility, taking cues from best practices in managing iOS devices. The group is also working with HR to efficiently implement its choice program as part of the process when new employees are hired.

Capital One

Ryan Kremkau, the director of engineering at Capital One bank, had previous experience in managing thousands of corporate Macs at Expedia and then Nike. The bank now supports 12,000 employee Macs, about a quarter of the total PCs it has in use.

Kremkau described a shift in strategy away from IT policy that sought to put employees into defined user-role buckets and then assign them a package of equipment based on what IT staff decided they'd need. Instead, IT administrators are increasingly looking to employees themselves to decide what they need to be productive. IT administrators are increasingly looking to employees themselves to decide what they need to be productive

And to facilitate Mac choice, Kremkau said that administrators have to find and remove roadblocks to adoption. In parallel, there's a need to convince management of the benefits of opening up choice, and to help IT staff to relinquish control.

Specific to the banking industry, Kremkau cited banking regulators as having the potential to "crush your dreams," and recommended making friends with information security.

He also noted that Apple Retail has "set expectations high" for Mac users with its Genius Bar service, echoing the comments Lang made regarding Mac users wanting to update their systems immediately.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 9
    mubailimubaili Posts: 453member
    Can someone aggregate a report on Apple's enterprise penetration please? Apple's patience and long term perspective really bears out. Time to add more AAPL?
  • Reply 2 of 9
    yubaman1234yubaman1234 Posts: 2member
    I do like that it Apple is getting into the business arena. The only problem I see is that the diehard pc users might not like that those macs are not upgradable, like there PC the other would be why are they 2-3 times more costly then there old pc’s. At first they will like them, but within less then a yr they will be wanting their old pc’s back. I speak from experience, we went from pc’s to mac’s but like I said in less then a yr. the rumble with and inside IT lead to management going back to PC’s even for the graphic folks.
  • Reply 3 of 9
    calicali Posts: 3,494member
    yubaman1234 said:
    I do like that it Apple is getting into the business arena. The only problem I see is that the diehard pc users might not like that those macs are not upgradable, like there PC the other would be why are they 2-3 times more costly then there old pc’s. At first they will like them, but within less then a yr they will be wanting their old pc’s back. I speak from experience, we went from pc’s to mac’s but like I said in less then a yr. the rumble with and inside IT lead to management going back to PC’s even for the graphic folks.
    So much bullshit in ONE post.

    the IT guys will hate Macs because it means less problems. Macs have a longer lifespan and run faster even after a decade of use.  
    magman1979
  • Reply 4 of 9
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member
    yubaman1234 said:
    I do like that it Apple is getting into the business arena. The only problem I see is that the diehard pc users might not like that those macs are not upgradable, like there PC the other would be why are they 2-3 times more costly then there old pc’s. At first they will like them, but within less then a yr they will be wanting their old pc’s back. I speak from experience, we went from pc’s to mac’s but like I said in less then a yr. the rumble with and inside IT lead to management going back to PC’s even for the graphic folks.

    every place i worked in the last 15 yrs recycle the pc every 2 to 3 yrs, Dell and HP convinced IT department to lease laptop not buy them so they can turned them over ever 2 yrs and not to deal with the problems of an aging PC. PC usually cost companies more over time, yes the up front cost are low, but long term cost are high. The problem is the people in IT never took finance course can do not understand the real costs of a PC to a company.
    calimagman1979jony0
  • Reply 5 of 9
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member
    This is what happen to Apple back in the early 90's they were slowly making their way into large companies just like this article talks about, then they fell on their face and loose all the ground the took over. I hope it does not happen again, There will be companies who will never switch, but there are a number out there who are not afraid to make the change. It so much easier today with so much Corporate business system working over the internet on a browser.
  • Reply 6 of 9
    calicali Posts: 3,494member
    maestro64 said:
    This is what happen to Apple back in the early 90's they were slowly making their way into large companies just like this article talks about, then they fell on their face and loose all the ground the took over. I hope it does not happen again, There will be companies who will never switch, but there are a number out there who are not afraid to make the change. It so much easier today with so much Corporate business system working over the internet on a browser.
    1990s Scully

    2010s Cook
    macky the macky
  • Reply 7 of 9
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,095member
    yubaman1234 said:
    I do like that it Apple is getting into the business arena. The only problem I see is that the diehard pc users might not like that those macs are not upgradable, like there PC the other would be why are they 2-3 times more costly then there old pc’s. At first they will like them, but within less then a yr they will be wanting their old pc’s back. I speak from experience, we went from pc’s to mac’s but like I said in less then a yr. the rumble with and inside IT lead to management going back to PC’s even for the graphic folks.
    "Diehard" PC users are irrelevant in this scope as it pertains to business only.  Companies normally replace PC's rather than "upgrade" them.

    In my experience past and present, everyone that's upgraded to a Mac have never requested to go back to a conventional PC.  I say this from working with Macs in the corporate environment for 8+ years.  The only people that I've come across that hated that move were system admins that were anti-Apple and wanted nothing to do with Apple products.  Of course, they remained conveniently quiet when questioned why our users of Macs had less use for IT support then PC folks.  Fact.
    calimagman1979jony0
  • Reply 8 of 9
    macky the mackymacky the macky Posts: 4,801member
    maestro64 said:
    yubaman1234 said:
    I do like that it Apple is getting into the business arena. The only problem I see is that the diehard pc users might not like that those macs are not upgradable, like there PC the other would be why are they 2-3 times more costly then there old pc’s. At first they will like them, but within less then a yr they will be wanting their old pc’s back. I speak from experience, we went from pc’s to mac’s but like I said in less then a yr. the rumble with and inside IT lead to management going back to PC’s even for the graphic folks.

    every place i worked in the last 15 yrs recycle the pc every 2 to 3 yrs, Dell and HP convinced IT department to lease laptop not buy them so they can turned them over ever 2 yrs and not to deal with the problems of an aging PC. PC usually cost companies more over time, yes the up front cost are low, but long term cost are high. The problem is the people in IT never took finance course can do not understand the real costs of a PC to a company.
    No, the problem is that IT people realize that to have big budgets and big staff the PC is the way to go. It’s called job security, plain and simple.
    jony0
  • Reply 9 of 9
    jdukejduke Posts: 1member
    I have also found Parallels Mac Management as a great alternative to JAMF. It integrates directly with SCCM to give the admin a single pane of glass.
    edited January 2018
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