Apple said to be working on new large-capacity battery technology for 2019 iPhones

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in iPhone edited December 2017
New 3D sensing and augmented reality functions expected to come to the iPhone's rear camera in 2019 will require more power consumption, prompting Apple to find ways to increase battery capacity, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities.




Kuo, in a note to investors on Thursday, forecast that Apple will continue expanding iPhone battery capacity in 2019 and 2020. He believes Apple's key technologies -- including semiconductor manufacturing processes, systems-in-package, and substrate-like printed circuit boards -- will allow the company to create the required space for even larger batteries.

As for the battery technology itself, some in Apple's supply chain believe the company will adopt flexible printed circuit board (FPCB) technology starting with the company's 2018 iPhone lineup.

But Kuo believes Apple will instead use rigid-flex printed circuit board (RFPCB) batteries. For this he gave two reasons: FPCB requires a connector or hotbar that would consume more space, and the power integrated circuit can be mounted on the rigid part of a RFPCB with surface mount technology, which he said makes for a "superior battery."

He sees RFPCB suppliers Unitech, Compeq and Unimicron benefitting from this until at least 2019 and 2020.




Apple managed to cram dual battery cells into this year's redesigned iPhone X, maximizing the use of internal space in the handset. Kuo, who has a strong track record in predicting Apple's future product plans, was the first to report back in April that the iPhone X would boast a two-cell, L-shaped battery design.

In a new prediction earlier this month, Kuo said he believes a 2018 successor to the iPhone X might switch to a single-cell L-shaped battery design.

As smartphones decrease in size, manufacturers are becoming increasingly hard pressed to find space to pack in operational components. Batteries, typically one of the largest parts in a given handset build, are particularly troublesome as technological constraints limit their design to symmetrical shapes like rectangles.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 20
    A better iPhone battery... more than a year away from now? Kuo is really putting his reputation on the line here.

    /s
    edited December 2017 randominternetpersonwatto_cobrarepressthis
  • Reply 2 of 20
    robjnrobjn Posts: 210member
    You write:
    Kuo, who has a strong track record in predicting Apple's future product plans, was the first to report back in April that the iPhone X would boast a two-cell, L-shaped battery design.

    This is is not exactly true, Kuo revealed the battery would be L-shaped but said nothing about it being “two-cell”. Actually, he gave the impression it was a new technology single cell L-shape. This is what was expected until the tear-down revealed it is just two regular batteries stuck together.

    Kuo was, as usual, only half right and pushed his single-cell L-shape battery prediction back to next year.
    edited December 2017 SpamSandwichwatto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 20
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 1,968member
    Apple have been working on better battery tech for sometime(Apple began aggressively poaching battery maker A123 engineers), so time to put in practice. Moreover, AR functionality suited for larger phones so 6.1 LCD and 6+ OLED is possibility and larger phones give more space for larger battery.
    edited December 2017
  • Reply 4 of 20
    robjn said:
    You write:
    Kuo, who has a strong track record in predicting Apple's future product plans, was the first to report back in April that the iPhone X would boast a two-cell, L-shaped battery design.

    This is is not exactly true, Kuo revealed the battery would be L-shaped but said nothing about it being “two-cell”. Actually, he gave the impression it was a new technology single cell L-shape. This is what was expected until the tear-down revealed it is just two regular batteries stuck together.

    Kuo was, as usual, only half right and pushed his single-cell L-shape battery prediction back to next year.
    The headline in the article I linked literally reads "2-cell design."
    cornchipwatto_cobrarepressthis[Deleted User]
  • Reply 5 of 20
    Solar powered batteries have existed on electronics for decades. 
  • Reply 6 of 20
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,293member
    Tim just buy Tesla already!  ;)
    tyler82[Deleted User]
  • Reply 7 of 20
    ksecksec Posts: 1,562member
    robjn said:
    You write:
    Kuo, who has a strong track record in predicting Apple's future product plans, was the first to report back in April that the iPhone X would boast a two-cell, L-shaped battery design.

    This is is not exactly true, Kuo revealed the battery would be L-shaped but said nothing about it being “two-cell”. Actually, he gave the impression it was a new technology single cell L-shape. This is what was expected until the tear-down revealed it is just two regular batteries stuck together.

    Kuo was, as usual, only half right and pushed his single-cell L-shape battery prediction back to next year.
    But in all fairness he was the only one getting it half right. Most leaks from China Weibo tends to come at much later date, I think those are leaks from lower level executive and Foxconn, to be able to tell something is going to happen 12 months earlier is something entirely different.

    A a few notes for those who are not aware:
    There are larger capacity battery that fits the iPhone, the tech is already available and shipping in different Android phones. As a matter of fact you could get a same size iPhone Plus replacement battery at 30% larger capacity. But Apple has been extremely cautious to battery improvement, this was even before Samsung 's battery problem.

      



    cornchipwatto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 20
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 1,756member
    Apple Public Relations is brilliant.   Bad stories about Batteries in the news.   Quick leak to Kuo about new Battery tech coming.   They're good.
    cornchip
  • Reply 9 of 20
    I love my iPhone SE battery life!!
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 20
    JWSCJWSC Posts: 444member
    Here’s a key super secret technology Apple could use to increase battery capacity.  Add a couple millimeters thickness to the iPhone.  😉
    avon b7hmlongcocornchipbonobobmuthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 11 of 20
    MacPro said:
    Tim just buy Tesla already!  ;)


    And make Musk CEO and Tim do what Tim does best: supply chain logistics. That would solve the problems both companies are having mutually.
    [Deleted User]
  • Reply 12 of 20
    JWSCJWSC Posts: 444member
    tyler82 said:

    And make Musk CEO and Tim do what Tim does best: supply chain logistics. That would solve the problems both companies are having mutually.
    If Musk became CEO he might spend an inordinate amount of time trying to figure out how to get iPhones into orbit around Mars.
    randominternetpersoncornchipwatto_cobrabonobob
  • Reply 13 of 20
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 1,756member
    JWSC said:
    tyler82 said:

    And make Musk CEO and Tim do what Tim does best: supply chain logistics. That would solve the problems both companies are having mutually.
    If Musk became CEO he might spend an inordinate amount of time trying to figure out how to get iPhones into orbit around Mars.

    That would only take 0.001% of his mental capacity.
  • Reply 14 of 20
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 1,756member
    MacPro said:
    Tim just buy Tesla already!  ;)
    I doubt if Musk would sell Telsa to Apple.    He said he expects it to be a $Trillion dollar company.    He would want far more than Apple would be willing to pay (probably $150 Billion)  with Tesla so close to selling the Model 3 in volume.
  • Reply 15 of 20
    JWSC said:
    Here’s a key super secret technology Apple could use to increase battery capacity.  Add a couple millimeters thickness to the iPhone.  😉
    Thicken the case the depth of the stupid camera bump out....   
    bonobob
  • Reply 16 of 20
    MacPro said:
    Tim just buy Tesla already!  ;)
    FYI: Tesla uses batteries from Panasonic.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 17 of 20
    Hoping they use this battery advancement on the iPad Mini 5!
    [Deleted User]
  • Reply 18 of 20
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,093moderator
    tyler82 said:
    MacPro said:
    Tim just buy Tesla already!  ;)


    And make Musk CEO and Tim do what Tim does best: supply chain logistics. That would solve the problems both companies are having mutually.
    Let’s wait to first see if Musk knows how to manage a profitable company.
  • Reply 19 of 20
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,093moderator

    JWSC said:
    Here’s a key super secret technology Apple could use to increase battery capacity.  Add a couple millimeters thickness to the iPhone.  😉
    Shhh!
    [Deleted User]
  • Reply 20 of 20
    Do the new batteries mean that Apple won't have to slow down iPhones after a year of use?
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