iMessage isn’t even on iCloud.com. No way will Apple do anything to make it easier to switch to someone else’s hardware and iMessage is probably the stickiest thing in Apple’s ecosystem.
Switch to what? Most iPhone users are Windows users for PCs, a stat that I worked out by comparing the installed base of iPhones in use with the installed base of Macs.
Sure but if Apple ported iMessage to Windows (or allowed Microsoft to support it) the demand would be to do it for Android too which would be a disaster for iPhone IMO.
This isn't about "porting iMessage to Windows" — it's about allowing the Your Phone app in Windows to relay messages to/from iMessage while your iPhone is present.
I'd like to see imessage on other platforms. Google can't seem to focus on a messaging platform. It would be nice if I can use it to text Android and windows user. Why not. Do you really think it locks people into Apple's ecosystem? If anything, it forces me to use some other messaging system for Android users I want to text. I message is secure and can be trusted. Opening it up makes far more sense then locked on Apple's ecosystem only.
If anything, it forces me to use some other messaging system for Android users I want to text. I message is secure and can be trusted.
Really? I use Messages to text Android users all the time.
If Messages was on Android (or any other platform) are we sure it would be as secure?
1) "Sure" it would be secure? No, but I don't think we can certain anything in the digital age is secure.
2) I believe iMessage uses end-to-end encryption per device, not account, so I do think it's possible for Apple to allow these messages to be sent to a non-Apple OS and be able to dissolve those devices easily within other devices or iCloud.
3) I think the bigger question is whether this is a good move for Apple. While Apple Music brings money to Apple, which is one reason why it's available to Android, iMessages currently has no profit center. It's a feature and service that makes that makes iDevices (and Macs) better. This thread alone has several people saying that if iMessages was on Android it would be much easier to move to Android. Apple surely doesn't want that to happen.
iMessage isn’t even on iCloud.com. No way will Apple do anything to make it easier to switch to someone else’s hardware and iMessage is probably the stickiest thing in Apple’s ecosystem.
Switch to what? Most iPhone users are Windows users for PCs, a stat that I worked out by comparing the installed base of iPhones in use with the installed base of Macs.
Sure but if Apple ported iMessage to Windows (or allowed Microsoft to support it) the demand would be to do it for Android too which would be a disaster for iPhone IMO.
If iMessage is the primary reason to stick with an iPhone, Apple has bigger problems. While I get your point, a single feature should not be make or break.
No doubt iMessage is the most sticky thing about iPhone.
iMessage isn’t even on iCloud.com. No way will Apple do anything to make it easier to switch to someone else’s hardware and iMessage is probably the stickiest thing in Apple’s ecosystem.
Switch to what? Most iPhone users are Windows users for PCs, a stat that I worked out by comparing the installed base of iPhones in use with the installed base of Macs.
Sure but if Apple ported iMessage to Windows (or allowed Microsoft to support it) the demand would be to do it for Android too which would be a disaster for iPhone IMO.
Big difference between integrating iMessage with Windows laptops / desktops, which are not competing with iOS, vs Android, which is competing with iOS. Even though the Mac user base has grown a lot, Windows still dominates the PC space and probably will for a long time. Nothing wrong with Apple enabling iMessage integration with Windows PCs for those iOS users that will probably never switch to a Mac.
Like I said. If Apple integrates with Windows the pressure to also integrate with or offer an app for Android will be huge. Put iMessage on Android and Apple will lose iPhone customers.
iMessage isn’t even on iCloud.com. No way will Apple do anything to make it easier to switch to someone else’s hardware and iMessage is probably the stickiest thing in Apple’s ecosystem.
Switch to what? Most iPhone users are Windows users for PCs, a stat that I worked out by comparing the installed base of iPhones in use with the installed base of Macs.
Sure but if Apple ported iMessage to Windows (or allowed Microsoft to support it) the demand would be to do it for Android too which would be a disaster for iPhone IMO.
IMessage is definitely a moat in Buffet’s terms.
the only way I see this happening is if Apple charged $5 - 10 bucks a month in windows store or android play store per device. May tie into iMessage for Business.
But I hope they don’t do this because software resources are spread too thin a Apple. Apple needs to work on making Apple better.
I can only imagine the howls from the tech media if Apple brought iMessage to Android and/or Windows but charged a monthly subscription fee for it. I can’t see it ever happening because I can’t see non-iOS users willing to pay for it.
iMessage isn’t even on iCloud.com. No way will Apple do anything to make it easier to switch to someone else’s hardware and iMessage is probably the stickiest thing in Apple’s ecosystem.
Switch to what? Most iPhone users are Windows users for PCs, a stat that I worked out by comparing the installed base of iPhones in use with the installed base of Macs.
Sure but if Apple ported iMessage to Windows (or allowed Microsoft to support it) the demand would be to do it for Android too which would be a disaster for iPhone IMO.
This isn't about "porting iMessage to Windows" — it's about allowing the Your Phone app in Windows to relay messages to/from iMessage while your iPhone is present.
I think Apple should look at doing something to support this Your Phone, mostly for the benefit of their customers, but also as a good will gesture towards Microsoft.
iMessage isn’t even on iCloud.com. No way will Apple do anything to make it easier to switch to someone else’s hardware and iMessage is probably the stickiest thing in Apple’s ecosystem.
Switch to what? Most iPhone users are Windows users for PCs, a stat that I worked out by comparing the installed base of iPhones in use with the installed base of Macs.
Sure but if Apple ported iMessage to Windows (or allowed Microsoft to support it) the demand would be to do it for Android too which would be a disaster for iPhone IMO.
Big difference between integrating iMessage with Windows laptops / desktops, which are not competing with iOS, vs Android, which is competing with iOS. Even though the Mac user base has grown a lot, Windows still dominates the PC space and probably will for a long time. Nothing wrong with Apple enabling iMessage integration with Windows PCs for those iOS users that will probably never switch to a Mac.
Like I said. If Apple integrates with Windows the pressure to also integrate with or offer an app for Android will be huge. Put iMessage on Android and Apple will lose iPhone customers.
You said that but you were wrong. Apple putting iMessage on Windows is facilitating people who use Windows desktops and iPhones, a greater number than iPhone and Mac users. There would be no pressure to port to Android.
I clearly don’t know for certain, but at this point I think Apple would prefer to keep the infuriating green bubbles popping up in people’s messages app. It’s an incredible source of peer pressure. There’s no way Apple doesn’t realize this.
Aren’t messages between iPhones not using sms blue?
iMessage isn’t even on iCloud.com. No way will Apple do anything to make it easier to switch to someone else’s hardware and iMessage is probably the stickiest thing in Apple’s ecosystem.
Switch to what? Most iPhone users are Windows users for PCs, a stat that I worked out by comparing the installed base of iPhones in use with the installed base of Macs.
Sure but if Apple ported iMessage to Windows (or allowed Microsoft to support it) the demand would be to do it for Android too which would be a disaster for iPhone IMO.
This isn't about "porting iMessage to Windows" — it's about allowing the Your Phone app in Windows to relay messages to/from iMessage while your iPhone is present.
As SMS or with all the rich features of iMessage?
Huh? I think you’re completely missing the fundamentals of how this works. This is an app in Windows that interfaces with an app on your phone to display notifications, photos, and messages on your PC. Apple doesn’t allow access to Messages in iOS, so this feature is not currently offered by Your Phone. They say they need to work with Apple, but haven’t even approached them yet. I have a pretty strong feeling the answer will be a resounding NO. Again, this has nothing to do with porting Messages to Windows — just relaying them to an app to display and interact with them in Windows, and doesn’t do a thing without a paired iPhone.
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If Messages was on Android (or any other platform) are we sure it would be as secure?
2) I believe iMessage uses end-to-end encryption per device, not account, so I do think it's possible for Apple to allow these messages to be sent to a non-Apple OS and be able to dissolve those devices easily within other devices or iCloud.
3) I think the bigger question is whether this is a good move for Apple. While Apple Music brings money to Apple, which is one reason why it's available to Android, iMessages currently has no profit center. It's a feature and service that makes that makes iDevices (and Macs) better. This thread alone has several people saying that if iMessages was on Android it would be much easier to move to Android. Apple surely doesn't want that to happen.