lol, you guys are a riot -- first people complain that Apple needs to work on making its platform more stable, and then they complain it's not exciting enough.
I guess if you’re a teenybopper who lives in Snapchat and Bitmoji this was a great update. I liked the changes to notifications and Siri shortcuts and group FaceTime but the rest was meh. News in the stocks app? Who even uses that app? And showing off ARKit with people holding up iPads? Who’s gonna do that? Your arms would get tired in an instant. Where is the SiriKit domain for music and podcasts? Where is the support for 3rd party music and podcast apps on AppleWatch? Or more Siri skills for HomePod? HomePod wasn’t even mentioned on stage. How about changes to iCloud pricing? Based on the little rumors we had I wasn’t expecting a ton of OMG things but I was expecting more.
LOTS of people use Bitmoji and Snapchat. Messages is arguably Apple’s most heavily used app. Do the math.
I’ve been to an AR art exhibit with hundreds of people walking around with iPads and phones interacting with things. There are a ton of apps and games where you hold up an iPad. You have a better way to demonstrate the tech than how they just did it?
Lots of people use the Stocks app. I do.
HomePod was mentioned in at least once the Siri Shortcut demo.
They announced background audio on Apple Watch for 3rd party apps, were you too busy crying at that point to notice?
Always with the whining and handwringing with you.
lol, you guys are a riot -- first people complain that Apple needs to work on making its platform more stable, and then they complain it's not exciting enough.
Well it is a keynote for the developers and as such you would expect them to dig into the meat of things. Even the new features seemed to be glossed over. For example they spent a considerable amount of time with Mac OS covering the finder but barely mentioned ML2 or other technologies. You know technologies developers are interested in.
This is literally how it goes every year. You know WWDC is a week long, right?
C'mon, where are all those people that were foaming at the mouth for Dolby Atmos support? Their dream/demand has come true.
I am glad to see Atmos support.
ARKit looks like a stop-gap or foundation building for glasses or some other head mounted display. Holding iPads or iPhones like that looked technically interesting, but not fun.
The machine learning & eGPU stuff was interesting, too. Of course, there were no specifics on what eGPUs were used, but I'll try not to be too pedantic.
Can Swift become a general purpose language outside of Apple? I'd love to drop Java & Python and start doing Swift programming. But for my job I need good web-app frameworks like Grails & database support like JDBC and Hibernate.
C'mon, where are all those people that were foaming at the mouth for Dolby Atmos support? Their dream/demand has come true.
Can Swift become a general purpose language outside of Apple? I'd love to drop Java & Python and start doing Swift programming. But for my job I need good web-app frameworks like Grails & database support like JDBC and Hibernate.
(Varpor’s Fluent ORM does all the usual MySQL+Postgres+Mongo, afraid I don't know anything about JDBC. I'm personally hoping for Neo4JS someday… but as a replacement for Rails, Laravel, Django, I am a fan)
I really don't care anymore what Wall Street does. Frankly I'm happy that they have refocused on speed and stability.
To me anyway, this Keynote just felt a bit off. It actually seemed more focused on the consumer end of the business then the developer end. Maybe I need to releisten as I did drop in about 15 minutes late, even so it was like that old hamburg ad with the old woman asking "where the meat?".
It did strike me that Tim and Craig were a little off their game, being not well rehearsed and being careful about what they were going to say.
It was almost as if they redesigned the iOS and macOS presos at the last minute and had to expand the time spent on features with less umph!
Did like the Siri Hypercar... er, ah, Shortcuts, tho!
Weird. I thought they knocked it out of the park. A couple very minor flubs but overall, I thought everyone did an incredible job and sounded very well rehearsed. ¯\(°_o)/¯
lol, you guys are a riot -- first people complain that Apple needs to work on making its platform more stable, and then they complain it's not exciting enough.
Nothing says stability or developer like Memoji!!!
I'm glad they are working on performance and hopefully quality, but I don't need a keynote about that. If you're going to take 2 hours of our time (or the developer crowd there) then at least tell us something important.
I missed parts of the first hour due to phone calls and had an appointment over the 2nd, but looks like it isn't even worth going back to watch.
lol, you guys are a riot -- first people complain that Apple needs to work on making its platform more stable, and then they complain it's not exciting enough.
I guess if you’re a teenybopper who lives in Snapchat and Bitmoji this was a great update. I liked the changes to notifications and Siri shortcuts and group FaceTime but the rest was meh. News in the stocks app? Who even uses that app? And showing off ARKit with people holding up iPads? Who’s gonna do that? Your arms would get tired in an instant. Where is the SiriKit domain for music and podcasts? Where is the support for 3rd party music and podcast apps on AppleWatch? Or more Siri skills for HomePod? HomePod wasn’t even mentioned on stage. How about changes to iCloud pricing? Based on the little rumors we had I wasn’t expecting a ton of OMG things but I was expecting more.
Gee, your good!
All I saw is a bigger fucking moat.
Apparently we’re all supposed to be giddy over Apple sherlocking Bitmoji and Snapchat. Though I’m curious how many people who use those apps own the Apple hardware that can support these features. I’m guessing not a lot of teenagers are rocking an iPhone X.
You realize True Depth cameras are going to soon be ubiquitous, right?
lol, you guys are a riot -- first people complain that Apple needs to work on making its platform more stable, and then they complain it's not exciting enough.
I guess if you’re a teenybopper who lives in Snapchat and Bitmoji this was a great update. I liked the changes to notifications and Siri shortcuts and group FaceTime but the rest was meh. News in the stocks app? Who even uses that app? And showing off ARKit with people holding up iPads? Who’s gonna do that? Your arms would get tired in an instant. Where is the SiriKit domain for music and podcasts? Where is the support for 3rd party music and podcast apps on AppleWatch? Or more Siri skills for HomePod? HomePod wasn’t even mentioned on stage. How about changes to iCloud pricing? Based on the little rumors we had I wasn’t expecting a ton of OMG things but I was expecting more.
Grading Apple based on your fantasies vs what they announced is your problem, not mine.
lol, you guys are a riot -- first people complain that Apple needs to work on making its platform more stable, and then they complain it's not exciting enough.
Well it is a keynote for the developers and as such you would expect them to dig into the meat of things. Even the new features seemed to be glossed over. For example they spent a considerable amount of time with Mac OS covering the finder but barely mentioned ML2 or other technologies. You know technologies developers are interested in.
Yes, which is why they’re hosting a week of sessions to dig deep into these topics. If you’re expecting to cover it all in a two hour keynote you’re nuts.
WWDC always highlights the new changes to the OS platforms, in part for the public audience watching the keynote. Serious devs will get their hands dirty at the conference and working with the betas at home.
The new Photos app will predict what the user is interested in, and is "more powerful than ever" according to Federighi.
Or in my case, the new Photos app will attempt to predict what the user is interested in and more often than not get it wrong. It will also attempt to predict how the user wants to tag, organize, and search for photos, and more often than not get it wrong.
Indeed , indeed , indeed...
Lately when i watch this commercial from 80s.... i see Apple on the big screen and many loyal fans wanting to be the hammer... how ironic.
Wow, not much to get excited about here. Admittedly iBooks, if done right, could function much better on iPad where I like to use it. Hopefully more info will follow but I jsut left feeling that they haven't revealed anything ground breaking here (not that that is a bad thing)
You not the only one who feels that way. Apple stock is taking a small dip as we speak.
Apple stock takes a dip after every announcement, because Mr. Market has no idea what its doing.
I really don't care anymore what Wall Street does. Frankly I'm happy that they have refocused on speed and stability.
To me anyway, this Keynote just felt a bit off. It actually seemed more focused on the consumer end of the business then the developer end. Maybe I need to releisten as I did drop in about 15 minutes late, even so it was like that old hamburg ad with the old woman asking "where the meat?".
It did strike me that Tim and Craig were a little off their game, being not well rehearsed and being careful about what they were going to say.
It was almost as if they redesigned the iOS and macOS presos at the last minute and had to expand the time spent on features with less umph!
Did like the Siri Hypercar... er, ah, Shortcuts, tho!
Weird. I thought they knocked it out of the park. A couple very minor flubs but overall, I thought everyone did an incredible job and sounded very well rehearsed. ¯\(°_o)/¯
So did I. But here’s the thing — we’re not looking for failure and disappointment the way the eternally disenchanted critics are.
Wow, not much to get excited about here. Admittedly iBooks, if done right, could function much better on iPad where I like to use it. Hopefully more info will follow but I jsut left feeling that they haven't revealed anything ground breaking here (not that that is a bad thing)
You not the only one who feels that way. Apple stock is taking a small dip as we speak.
Apple stock takes a dip after every announcement, because Mr. Market has no idea what its doing.
I really don't care anymore what Wall Street does. Frankly I'm happy that they have refocused on speed and stability.
To me anyway, this Keynote just felt a bit off. It actually seemed more focused on the consumer end of the business then the developer end. Maybe I need to releisten as I did drop in about 15 minutes late, even so it was like that old hamburg ad with the old woman asking "where the meat?".
It did strike me that Tim and Craig were a little off their game, being not well rehearsed and being careful about what they were going to say.
It was almost as if they redesigned the iOS and macOS presos at the last minute and had to expand the time spent on features with less umph!
Did like the Siri Hypercar... er, ah, Shortcuts, tho!
Weird. I thought they knocked it out of the park. A couple very minor flubs but overall, I thought everyone did an incredible job and sounded very well rehearsed. ¯\(°_o)/¯
I see the flubs as possible evidence that the presentation kept changing until it was ready and things removed from the presentation may have thrown people off because rehearsals were changing.
lol, you guys are a riot -- first people complain that Apple needs to work on making its platform more stable, and then they complain it's not exciting enough.
Nothing says stability or developer like Memoji!!!
I'm glad they are working on performance and hopefully quality, but I don't need a keynote about that. If you're going to take 2 hours of our time (or the developer crowd there) then at least tell us something important.
I missed parts of the first hour due to phone calls and had an appointment over the 2nd, but looks like it isn't even worth going back to watch.
So going over stability and speed isn’t important? Curious.
Next time try watching it before you ding it. Nah that would require an open mind, and you’ve got a narrative to peddle! Apple has lost its way! Old Apple was better than new Apple! Steve Jobs....!
So going over stability and speed isn’t important? Curious.
Next time try watching it before you ding it.
Yes, speed is important (did they say anything about stability, QC?). But, that took like 30 seconds of a 2 hour keynote, and we already knew they were supposed to be working on that (i.e.: no new announcement there).
I watched the first hour or so through the Watch section... trying to decide if I should watch the rest. The only thing of interest in that first hour+ was the multi-user FaceTime, though I often have to use Skype for compatibility anyway. I skimmed the notes on a couple Apple-sites.
I really don't care anymore what Wall Street does. Frankly I'm happy that they have refocused on speed and stability.
To me anyway, this Keynote just felt a bit off. It actually seemed more focused on the consumer end of the business then the developer end. Maybe I need to releisten as I did drop in about 15 minutes late, even so it was like that old hamburg ad with the old woman asking "where the meat?".
It did strike me that Tim and Craig were a little off their game, being not well rehearsed and being careful about what they were going to say.
It was almost as if they redesigned the iOS and macOS presos at the last minute and had to expand the time spent on features with less umph!
Did like the Siri Hypercar... er, ah, Shortcuts, tho!
Weird. I thought they knocked it out of the park. A couple very minor flubs but overall, I thought everyone did an incredible job and sounded very well rehearsed. ¯\(°_o)/¯
I see the flubs as possible evidence that the presentation kept changing until it was ready and things removed from the presentation may have thrown people off because rehearsals were changing.
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I’ve been to an AR art exhibit with hundreds of people walking around with iPads and phones interacting with things. There are a ton of apps and games where you hold up an iPad. You have a better way to demonstrate the tech than how they just did it?
Lots of people use the Stocks app. I do.
HomePod was mentioned in at least once the Siri Shortcut demo.
They announced background audio on Apple Watch for 3rd party apps, were you too busy crying at that point to notice?
Always with the whining and handwringing with you.
This is literally how it goes every year. You know WWDC is a week long, right?
ARKit looks like a stop-gap or foundation building for glasses or some other head mounted display. Holding iPads or iPhones like that looked technically interesting, but not fun.
The machine learning & eGPU stuff was interesting, too. Of course, there were no specifics on what eGPUs were used, but I'll try not to be too pedantic.
Can Swift become a general purpose language outside of Apple? I'd love to drop Java & Python and start doing Swift programming. But for my job I need good web-app frameworks like Grails & database support like JDBC and Hibernate.
(Varpor’s Fluent ORM does all the usual MySQL+Postgres+Mongo, afraid I don't know anything about JDBC. I'm personally hoping for Neo4JS someday… but as a replacement for Rails, Laravel, Django, I am a fan)
I'm glad they are working on performance and hopefully quality, but I don't need a keynote about that.
If you're going to take 2 hours of our time (or the developer crowd there) then at least tell us something important.
I missed parts of the first hour due to phone calls and had an appointment over the 2nd, but looks like it isn't even worth going back to watch.
You realize True Depth cameras are going to soon be ubiquitous, right?
Yes, which is why they’re hosting a week of sessions to dig deep into these topics. If you’re expecting to cover it all in a two hour keynote you’re nuts.
WWDC always highlights the new changes to the OS platforms, in part for the public audience watching the keynote. Serious devs will get their hands dirty at the conference and working with the betas at home.
Non-devs will whine about it on forums.
Lately when i watch this commercial from 80s.... i see Apple on the big screen and many loyal fans wanting to be the hammer... how ironic.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=axSnW-ygU5g
I dont think Apple does either
So going over stability and speed isn’t important? Curious.
Next time try watching it before you ding it. Nah that would require an open mind, and you’ve got a narrative to peddle! Apple has lost its way! Old Apple was better than new Apple! Steve Jobs....!
What's yours?
Yes, speed is important (did they say anything about stability, QC?). But, that took like 30 seconds of a 2 hour keynote, and we already knew they were supposed to be working on that (i.e.: no new announcement there).
I watched the first hour or so through the Watch section... trying to decide if I should watch the rest. The only thing of interest in that first hour+ was the multi-user FaceTime, though I often have to use Skype for compatibility anyway. I skimmed the notes on a couple Apple-sites.
So, what great thing did I miss?