Apple won't use Intel's 5G modem in future iPhones [u]
Intel will not be supplying Apple with radio chips in a future iPhone release, a report claims, with the chip producer said to have stopped development of parts that would have enabled 5G cellular communications on an upcoming version of Apple's smartphone.
Apple has reportedly notified Intel of its decision to not use its modem in a next-generation iPhone model, internal Intel communications and sources familiar with the matter advised to CTech. It is believed the decision affects iPhones that will launch in 2020, and not those destined for the 2019 refresh.
Intel had been working on a chipset called "Sunny Peak," combining a 5G modem with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth radios, which Intel was producing with Apple in mind. Company executives were apparently anticipating Apple would be the "main volume driver" for the part, but following Apple's notification, Intel has redirected the team's focus to other 5G-related projects.
Despite not gaining approval for Sunny Peak, Intel's executives believe the chip producer can still improve the component, potentially for Apple devices launching in 2022.
It is unclear why Apple opted not to use Sunny Peak, but the internal documents speculate it was the result of "many factors." The introduction of the WiGig Wi-Fi standard, which would have formed part of Sunny Peak, is said by executives to bring "new and unanticipated challenges" to mobile devices, and could have contributed to its downfall.
While the report concerns the Sunny Peak project, it does not necessarily indicate Intel is being cut out of the supply chain completely. Intel is currently providing modems to Apple alongside Qualcomm, but reports suggest Apple is altering the split of supply to 70:30 in favor of Intel for the 2018 fall refresh, with a view to moving away from Qualcomm modems completely by 2019.
As Apple is in an ongoing legal battle with Qualcomm over royalties, there are relatively few alternate options for Apple to move towards if it intends to support 5G in its future iPhones, aside from Intel. One option could be MediaTek, which recently unveiled a new 5G modem chipset and is said to be trying to supply Wi-Fi chips for the HomePod as a stepping stone towards becoming an iPhone modem source.
Update: "Intel's 5G customer engagements and roadmap have not changed for 2018 through 2020," Intel advises in a statement provided to AppleInsider. "We remain committed to our 5G plans and projects."
Apple has reportedly notified Intel of its decision to not use its modem in a next-generation iPhone model, internal Intel communications and sources familiar with the matter advised to CTech. It is believed the decision affects iPhones that will launch in 2020, and not those destined for the 2019 refresh.
Intel had been working on a chipset called "Sunny Peak," combining a 5G modem with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth radios, which Intel was producing with Apple in mind. Company executives were apparently anticipating Apple would be the "main volume driver" for the part, but following Apple's notification, Intel has redirected the team's focus to other 5G-related projects.
Despite not gaining approval for Sunny Peak, Intel's executives believe the chip producer can still improve the component, potentially for Apple devices launching in 2022.
It is unclear why Apple opted not to use Sunny Peak, but the internal documents speculate it was the result of "many factors." The introduction of the WiGig Wi-Fi standard, which would have formed part of Sunny Peak, is said by executives to bring "new and unanticipated challenges" to mobile devices, and could have contributed to its downfall.
While the report concerns the Sunny Peak project, it does not necessarily indicate Intel is being cut out of the supply chain completely. Intel is currently providing modems to Apple alongside Qualcomm, but reports suggest Apple is altering the split of supply to 70:30 in favor of Intel for the 2018 fall refresh, with a view to moving away from Qualcomm modems completely by 2019.
As Apple is in an ongoing legal battle with Qualcomm over royalties, there are relatively few alternate options for Apple to move towards if it intends to support 5G in its future iPhones, aside from Intel. One option could be MediaTek, which recently unveiled a new 5G modem chipset and is said to be trying to supply Wi-Fi chips for the HomePod as a stepping stone towards becoming an iPhone modem source.
Update: "Intel's 5G customer engagements and roadmap have not changed for 2018 through 2020," Intel advises in a statement provided to AppleInsider. "We remain committed to our 5G plans and projects."
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I read there goal was to fix as much into the housing of the CPU as possible to create a more battery efficient device.
Can’t understand why anyone would make up something like this with Apple set to announce quarterly figures in the next few weeks.
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https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/articles/0,7340,L-3741719,00.html
A key statement: "according to internal company communications reviewed by Calcalist"
Now why would Calcalist, an Israeli tech site, have any inside knowledge and be provided Intel internal company docs? Much of the Sunny Peak development took place in Israel, obviously using Israeli engineers.
BTW, a little further clarification from the source:
"Sunny Peak," whose name was first disclosed, will have to be refreshed so Apple can re-integrate it into its products. If they are used again, this will only happen in 2022." The component was being designed especially for Apple and Apple alone apparently.
I'm no expert, but 5G sounds really weird to me for use in a phone. I've read that you basically need line of sight in order for it to work. If anything --- *anything* -- solid comes between your phone and the "tower" (probably not really a tower), then you either lose the signal or it's degraded to the point that you might as well have just stuck with LTE.
There's also an easy-to-understand tutorial about the whole 5G thing, what it is, what it's for, where you'll find it, and how soon here:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/what-is-5g/
The design for Intel 5G modem was suppose to be done on Intel 10nm. And now it is not going to make it in volume for their next iPhone. That is likely to be the same for Intel's next 4G Modem, the XMM7660, designed for 10nm and not available for Apple next year.
I think relationship between Apple and Intel may have turned sour. And Apple got fed up with Intel not delivery ( On Mac and on iPhone ).
And half of 2018 gone, still no opening of Thunderbolt yet from Intel.
And what is WiGig? That is like a disbanded org since 2011 or 2013? It is now 802.11ad, and I suppose it has nothing got to do with Apple calling off because it is pure garbage spec. It is very likely any development now would be 802.11ay, the successor of 802.11ad, trying to fix and get a properly 60Ghz wireless working. It is still in draft stage and I hope they get it right this time.