This doesn't mean you HAVE to take it to an Apple Retail store to get repaired. There are still 3rd party Apple Certified Service Centers you can take it to as well. You just can't take it to Bob's Computers and have your 2018 MacBook Pro repaired...which I don't know why in the hell you'd do that anyways. They cannot get genuine Apple parts, or just Apple parts in general so its little or no benefit to you anyways.
So you're lumping in experts like Louis Rossmann (whose workshop, admittedly, does give off a bit of “Bob's Computers” vibe, but it's anything but) with shady, back-alley repair shops that may rip you off or install god knows what on your machine.
You see, I totally get why some clients may wish to only use Apple or AASPs as service providers; there is indeed a security benefit to be had. What I take issue with is the fact that you are actively defending Apple's right to pretty much force people to use their channels and potentially leave them out in the dust by refusing them further repairs or, worse even, bricking their machines remotely. I surely hope Apple doesn't even attempt that kind of stunt, as they'd be faced with a lawsuit in no time.
In any case, I believe sanity will prevail. They could've gone after the Hackintosh crowd, too, and they didn't, and it's been what, 11 years now since the switch to Intel? Arguably, having completely unsecured, hacked-together computers running macOS (and always a few versions behind, no less) connected to the internet in the first place is more of a security liability than having Macs without a T2 chip, or SIP enabled, or what you have it.
The "Hackintosh" crowd is so few and far between its not even worth Apple's time and effort to even begin to care about it and the people doing that know the risk. Its not your mom or grandma is doing that thinking it's the same exact thing as a Mac coming directly from Apple, or its certified channels. Your entire argument is incredibly invalid because of this alone.
I don't see Apple backing down at all on this and if you think cooler heads will prevail on this and customers will win you have another thing coming. If you want to tinker, build a Hackintosh or your own PC. This isn't the customer base Apple cares about.
You see, this is where you’re wrong. Tinkerers are, more often than not, influencers. Even though I’m puny by comparison, I’m still in the same boat, philosophy- and credibility-wise, as a Linus from LTT, or a Quinn from SnazzyLabs. It’s no accident my nickname is “João [my first name] dos [Portuguese for “of the”] Macs”; I’ve switched to the Mac in 2003, I worked for two years, in 2011 and 2012, at my Uni as the Mac computer room monitor and I repaired and/or upgraded several dozens of Macs, not to mention that I also gave all kinds of software technical assistance. In a nutshell, I’m a bit of a local influencer, or evangelist of sorts. Should Apple lose me, they potentially stand to lose around 300 Mac customers as well (and I singled out the Mac because I’d still be recommending iOS devices; phones, by their very mobile, sensor-laden, data-filled and always-connected nature, are devices on which I’d never compromise on my privacy and security).
I absolutely commend their efforts in increasing security; it’s just their fascist – yes, you read that correctly; it’s fascist and user-hostile, even if most users don’t care and may be better served with Apple doing their repairs – way of going about it, and their sheer hypocrisy when it comes to environmental sustainability, that I can’t stand. Shouldn’t they allow the tinkerers to deactivate in some way those protections, they will deserve all the flak and loss of revenue that will ensue. You people seem to forget that hubris and over-charging their customer base almost did them in back in the ’90s… While they’d still have their iPhone cash cow, what if some other manufacturer/OS developer (like, say, Microsoft) saw the light and challenged them at their privacy-minded monopoly? I know Windows Phone is dead, but I don’t thing we’ve seen the last of Microsoft in that space, and if they came up with an Android/Windows hybrid beast that was as trustworthy as an iPhone, I could go as far as outright leaving Apple completely (I’m not holding my breath, though; I know the chances of that happening are currently nil).
And yes, I will absolutely trade some peace of mind and a lot of my time (I’d have to be disabling crap like Cortana, for instance) for increased freedom, if it comes to that. Apple has already been pushing our budgets to their limits, and this (remotely bricking repairs without recourse) would be the last straw.
For now, because I really like macOS that much, I’m seriously considering buying the same, now outdated, T2-less 2017 5K iMac that Quinn from SnazzyLabs bought and upgraded (though I’d only be performing said upgrades in two years’ time, so as not to void my EU-mandated warranty). Yes, I don’t care for the rumoured brand-spanking-new graphics pipeline or a 10% faster processor (hasn’t Intel been stagnating a bit as of late?), or even the added on-the-fly encryption performance the T2 brings. In 8-10 years’ time, when that machine inevitably craps out or is left out in the dust by Apple (or even sooner, if the rumoured transition to A-series chips comes to pass), if they keep going down this path, I may very well be gone for good (as maintaining a Hackintosh is probably less safe and more of a daily hassle than just running Windows on the same hardware and being done with it).
This doesn't mean you HAVE to take it to an Apple Retail store to get repaired. There are still 3rd party Apple Certified Service Centers you can take it to as well. You just can't take it to Bob's Computers and have your 2018 MacBook Pro repaired...which I don't know why in the hell you'd do that anyways. They cannot get genuine Apple parts, or just Apple parts in general so its little or no benefit to you anyways.
So you're lumping in experts like Louis Rossmann (whose workshop, admittedly, does give off a bit of “Bob's Computers” vibe, but it's anything but) with shady, back-alley repair shops that may rip you off or install god knows what on your machine.
You see, I totally get why some clients may wish to only use Apple or AASPs as service providers; there is indeed a security benefit to be had. What I take issue with is the fact that you are actively defending Apple's right to pretty much force people to use their channels and potentially leave them out in the dust by refusing them further repairs or, worse even, bricking their machines remotely. I surely hope Apple doesn't even attempt that kind of stunt, as they'd be faced with a lawsuit in no time.
In any case, I believe sanity will prevail. They could've gone after the Hackintosh crowd, too, and they didn't, and it's been what, 11 years now since the switch to Intel? Arguably, having completely unsecured, hacked-together computers running macOS (and always a few versions behind, no less) connected to the internet in the first place is more of a security liability than having Macs without a T2 chip, or SIP enabled, or what you have it.
The "Hackintosh" crowd is so few and far between its not even worth Apple's time and effort to even begin to care about it and the people doing that know the risk. Its not your mom or grandma is doing that thinking it's the same exact thing as a Mac coming directly from Apple, or its certified channels. Your entire argument is incredibly invalid because of this alone.
I don't see Apple backing down at all on this and if you think cooler heads will prevail on this and customers will win you have another thing coming. If you want to tinker, build a Hackintosh or your own PC. This isn't the customer base Apple cares about.
You see, this is where you’re wrong. Tinkerers are, more often than not, influencers. Even though I’m puny by comparison, I’m still in the same boat, philosophy- and credibility-wise, as a Linus from LTT, or a Quinn from SnazzyLabs. It’s no accident my nickname is “João [my first name] dos [Portuguese for “of the”] Macs”; I’ve switched to the Mac in 2003, I worked for two years, in 2011 and 2012, at my Uni as the Mac computer room monitor and I repaired and/or upgraded several dozens of Macs, not to mention that I also gave all kinds of software technical assistance. In a nutshell, I’m a bit of a local influencer, or evangelist of sorts. Should Apple lose me, they potentially stand to lose around 300 Mac customers as well (and I singled out the Mac because I’d still be recommending iOS devices; phones, by their very mobile, sensor-laden, data-filled and always-connected nature, are devices on which I’d never compromise on my privacy and security).
I absolutely commend their efforts in increasing security; it’s just their fascist – yes, you read that correctly; it’s fascist and user-hostile, even if most users don’t care and may be better served with Apple doing their repairs – way of going about it, and their sheer hypocrisy when it comes to environmental sustainability, that I can’t stand. Shouldn’t they allow the tinkerers to deactivate in some way those protections, they will deserve all the flak and loss of revenue that will ensue. You people seem to forget that hubris and over-charging their customer base almost did them in back in the ’90s… While they’d still have their iPhone cash cow, what if some other manufacturer/OS developer (like, say, Microsoft) saw the light and challenged them at their privacy-minded monopoly? I know Windows Phone is dead, but I don’t thing we’ve seen the last of Microsoft in that space, and if they came up with an Android/Windows hybrid beast that was as trustworthy as an iPhone, I could go as far as outright leaving Apple completely (I’m not holding my breath, though; I know the chances of that happening are currently nil).
And yes, I will absolutely trade some peace of mind and a lot of my time (I’d have to be disabling crap like Cortana, for instance) for increased freedom, if it comes to that. Apple has already been pushing our budgets to their limits, and this (remotely bricking repairs without recourse) would be the last straw.
For now, because I really like macOS that much, I’m seriously considering buying the same, now outdated, T2-less 2017 5K iMac that Quinn from SnazzyLabs bought and upgraded (though I’d only be performing said upgrades in two years’ time, so as not to void my EU-mandated warranty). Yes, I don’t care for the rumoured brand-spanking-new graphics pipeline or a 10% faster processor (hasn’t Intel been stagnating a bit as of late?), or even the added on-the-fly encryption performance the T2 brings. In 8-10 years’ time, when that machine inevitably craps out or is left out in the dust by Apple (or even sooner, if the rumoured transition to A-series chips comes to pass), if they keep going down this path, I may very well be gone for good (as maintaining a Hackintosh is probably less safe and more of a daily hassle than just running Windows on the same hardware and being done with it).
Show me something that proves me wrong. If you think tinkerers are the influencers of the world then you are absolutely clueless.
This doesn't mean you HAVE to take it to an Apple Retail store to get repaired. There are still 3rd party Apple Certified Service Centers you can take it to as well. You just can't take it to Bob's Computers and have your 2018 MacBook Pro repaired...which I don't know why in the hell you'd do that anyways. They cannot get genuine Apple parts, or just Apple parts in general so its little or no benefit to you anyways.
You'd "...do that anyways", because you CHOOSE to do it with YOUR property. Once Apple is off the hook for repairs, what conceivable right do they have to interfere with your choices on what do do with your property? Man oh man, is our country that ready to fall in line for facism ? (Rhetorical question....see Trump supporter)
So tinkerers have no influence at all now? They are clueless if they think they do? They are the insignificant riffraff and bane of society? Well then...
Here's to the crazy tinkerers. The misfits. The rebels in the AppleInsider forums. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of Apple repair rules. And they have no respect for the T2 status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they repair things. They push the Mac forward. And while some may see them as the crazy tinkerers, we the Mac faithful see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the Mac, are the ones who do.
So tinkerers have no influence at all now? They are clueless if they think they do? They are the insignificant riffraff and bane of society? Well then...
Here's to the crazy tinkerers. The misfits. The rebels in the AppleInsider forums. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of Apple repair rules. And they have no respect for the T2 status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they repair things. They push the Mac forward. And while some may see them as the crazy tinkerers, we the Mac faithful see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the Mac, are the ones who do.
**love** It is as if this generation of Mac users (no bloody macOS) of today have turned into the faceless masses of the 1984 commercial. You can also see Cook as the figure preaching to them on the movie screen.
Apple authorised serviced providers in many cases aren't allowed to repair things and end up just been glorified mailing and shipping centres. Not a viable option.
So tinkerers have no influence at all now? They are clueless if they think they do? They are the insignificant riffraff and bane of society? Well then...
Here's to the crazy tinkerers. The misfits. The rebels in the AppleInsider forums. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of Apple repair rules. And they have no respect for the T2 status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they repair things. They push the Mac forward. And while some may see them as the crazy tinkerers, we the Mac faithful see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the Mac, are the ones who do.
Apparently you cannot read. Thats not what I said at all....All you did was took what I said and spun it to make your point and then did some pointless jingle at the end trying to be cute.
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I absolutely commend their efforts in increasing security; it’s just their fascist – yes, you read that correctly; it’s fascist and user-hostile, even if most users don’t care and may be better served with Apple doing their repairs – way of going about it, and their sheer hypocrisy when it comes to environmental sustainability, that I can’t stand. Shouldn’t they allow the tinkerers to deactivate in some way those protections, they will deserve all the flak and loss of revenue that will ensue. You people seem to forget that hubris and over-charging their customer base almost did them in back in the ’90s… While they’d still have their iPhone cash cow, what if some other manufacturer/OS developer (like, say, Microsoft) saw the light and challenged them at their privacy-minded monopoly? I know Windows Phone is dead, but I don’t thing we’ve seen the last of Microsoft in that space, and if they came up with an Android/Windows hybrid beast that was as trustworthy as an iPhone, I could go as far as outright leaving Apple completely (I’m not holding my breath, though; I know the chances of that happening are currently nil).
And yes, I will absolutely trade some peace of mind and a lot of my time (I’d have to be disabling crap like Cortana, for instance) for increased freedom, if it comes to that. Apple has already been pushing our budgets to their limits, and this (remotely bricking repairs without recourse) would be the last straw.
For now, because I really like macOS that much, I’m seriously considering buying the same, now outdated, T2-less 2017 5K iMac that Quinn from SnazzyLabs bought and upgraded (though I’d only be performing said upgrades in two years’ time, so as not to void my EU-mandated warranty). Yes, I don’t care for the rumoured brand-spanking-new graphics pipeline or a 10% faster processor (hasn’t Intel been stagnating a bit as of late?), or even the added on-the-fly encryption performance the T2 brings. In 8-10 years’ time, when that machine inevitably craps out or is left out in the dust by Apple (or even sooner, if the rumoured transition to A-series chips comes to pass), if they keep going down this path, I may very well be gone for good (as maintaining a Hackintosh is probably less safe and more of a daily hassle than just running Windows on the same hardware and being done with it).
Show me something that proves me wrong. If you think tinkerers are the influencers of the world then you are absolutely clueless.
Here's to the crazy tinkerers. The misfits. The rebels in the AppleInsider forums. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of Apple repair rules. And they have no respect for the T2 status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they repair things. They push the Mac forward. And while some may see them as the crazy tinkerers, we the Mac faithful see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the Mac, are the ones who do.
It is as if this generation of Mac users (no bloody macOS) of today have turned into the faceless masses of the 1984 commercial. You can also see Cook as the figure preaching to them on the movie screen.
Here's to the tinkerers.
Apparently you cannot read. Thats not what I said at all....All you did was took what I said and spun it to make your point and then did some pointless jingle at the end trying to be cute.