Refreshed Apple Pencil could include gesture recognition support

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  • Reply 21 of 24

    chasm said:
    What are the odds the new Pencil won’t work with older iPads as there won’t be a way to charge it?
    Chances are pretty good that it will work with iPads that supported the original Apple Pencil, since it sounds like the new functionality is just emulating normal software calls you’d normally find in software, I should think. Obviously that’s not a guarantee, just speculation.

    Also (for the iPads Pros) I believe a Lightning-to-USB3 adapter already exists, so (assuming the new models of Pro dispense with Lightning) there should be a Lightning-to-USB-C adapter will or already does exists, along with a variety of ways to charge it. Of course, older iPads that never supported the Pencil in the first place aren’t going to magically start supporting it now.
    So a dongle. Like I said Apple loves dongles.
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  • Reply 22 of 24
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    danvm said:
    mac_128 said:

    danvm said:
    melgross said:
    I would like it to be about an inch shorter. I carry mine in a shirt pocket most of the time, with a clip I liberated from a pen of about the same thickness. It’s really too long for that, and the extra length doesn’t serve a purpose when holding it, though there could be circuitry that does. Pencils rapidly shorten so that the full length is almost never encountered except in the beginning, and pens are all shorter for the reason of carrying. So, shorter, and possibly with a clip that can be popped out of the side when needed. It should also come with a spongy sleeve, that can be slipped on, for those who find it to be uncomfortable. Though, I wonder about all those using “real” pencils that don’t have that. I’ve got hundreds from years of buying them, and none have anything other than wood. People are too quick to complain about things like that these days. Also, at least 1024 levels. I’ve never found more than that to really make a difference, but 1024 is better. I would also think that the connector end could be better figured out. I like the charge method, but something other than that little cap that keeps running away from me when I take it off, would be good. Please, no eraser end.
    I think Apple should add it to the Pencil.  I take a lot of handwritten notes, and the eraser is far better than going to the toolbar to click the Eraser tool.  I'm not an artist, so I have no idea how is the experience of the eraser.  But for handwritten notes, it's a must, at least for me. 

    I don't agree. I find it much easier to simply tap a button on a screen than to interrupt what I'm doing to flip the tool around and back. Having those gestures on the tool itself would be even better. Then it doesn't have to be moved at all, nor my hand position changed. Should really improve the workflow.
    Maybe in your workflow, tapping a button is better.  In my case, I have toolbars hidden and the document / notebook in full screen.  Plus with the other hand I navigate, rotate and zoom-in/out.  So it's easier and quicker too rotate the Pen for the eraser. 
    Ah, but a gesture on the pencil itself would be better, as I originally stated. So all things considered, flipping the Pencil is he least productive method of the various options potentially available. Not to mention, eliminating the bezels give so hou more screen space to have stationary control menus where the old bezels were without losing any screen real estate you presently have, while also gaining some.
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  • Reply 23 of 24
    danvmdanvm Posts: 1,506member
    mac_128 said:
    danvm said:
    mac_128 said:

    danvm said:
    melgross said:
    I would like it to be about an inch shorter. I carry mine in a shirt pocket most of the time, with a clip I liberated from a pen of about the same thickness. It’s really too long for that, and the extra length doesn’t serve a purpose when holding it, though there could be circuitry that does. Pencils rapidly shorten so that the full length is almost never encountered except in the beginning, and pens are all shorter for the reason of carrying. So, shorter, and possibly with a clip that can be popped out of the side when needed. It should also come with a spongy sleeve, that can be slipped on, for those who find it to be uncomfortable. Though, I wonder about all those using “real” pencils that don’t have that. I’ve got hundreds from years of buying them, and none have anything other than wood. People are too quick to complain about things like that these days. Also, at least 1024 levels. I’ve never found more than that to really make a difference, but 1024 is better. I would also think that the connector end could be better figured out. I like the charge method, but something other than that little cap that keeps running away from me when I take it off, would be good. Please, no eraser end.
    I think Apple should add it to the Pencil.  I take a lot of handwritten notes, and the eraser is far better than going to the toolbar to click the Eraser tool.  I'm not an artist, so I have no idea how is the experience of the eraser.  But for handwritten notes, it's a must, at least for me. 

    I don't agree. I find it much easier to simply tap a button on a screen than to interrupt what I'm doing to flip the tool around and back. Having those gestures on the tool itself would be even better. Then it doesn't have to be moved at all, nor my hand position changed. Should really improve the workflow.
    Maybe in your workflow, tapping a button is better.  In my case, I have toolbars hidden and the document / notebook in full screen.  Plus with the other hand I navigate, rotate and zoom-in/out.  So it's easier and quicker too rotate the Pen for the eraser. 
    Ah, but a gesture on the pencil itself would be better, as I originally stated. So all things considered, flipping the Pencil is he least productive method of the various options potentially available. Not to mention, eliminating the bezels give so hou more screen space to have stationary control menus where the old bezels were without losing any screen real estate you presently have, while also gaining some.
    A gesture is not available in the notetaking apps I had used (neither Windows or iOS). Second, there are cases where flip to erase was a better option than an eraser in a toolbar.  I already mention an example, since I work with hidden toolbards.  Another example is when you are holding the tablet in one hand.  Recently I had to inspect a building with my Surface Pro, and to erase was far easier to turn the Pen than trying to tap the eraser icon with the same hand that hold the Pen. 

    In today Apple keynote they mentioned a dual tap to change to eraser.  That looks could be a better option than flipping the Pencil. I'm looking forward to try that.  But as today, there are many cases where flip to erase is a better option, specially compared to taping the eraser icon.

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  • Reply 24 of 24
    Is it possible the “didslide” code was a debug/test functionality on a larger cylindrical surface (pencil 1/2) to test the functionality of a slide function that will be shrunk down and integrated into future AirPods for volume control?
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