Sending unsolicited nudes via AirDrop might soon be illegal in NYC

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  • Reply 21 of 61
    sirozhasirozha Posts: 801member
    Rayz2016 said:
    chasm said:
    ireland said:
    A solution to solve this is to (1) not show an image preview (2) a message (blah blah wants to send you a photo, are you sure you want to accept it? “Cancel” and “Preview” buttons. For people in your contacts iOS couN’re saying when you suggest a “preview” option ...

    Heres a simpler and built-in solution ... simply change AirDrop’s default from “everyone” to “contacts.” You can do this right now, but in addition to that let me say I’m terribly sorry men have to such ... appendages ... and abusive to women.
    Well, indeed. But the problem isn't the appendage; it's common decency, or lack of it. I think some people think this is not a really serious crime. Personally, I think someone who does this is simply gathering his 'courage' (for want of a better word) to escalate into something that these people would regard as serious.
    If you are sorry about the appendage, it’s quite easy nowadays to get rid of it. 
    edited December 2018 berndog
  • Reply 22 of 61
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 9,989member
    hface119 said:
    I did not know this was a thing. People are so weird.
    When Edison patented the movie camera around 1895 one of the first uses of it was for porn. The porn industry is almost always the first to use new technology. It switched to HTML 5 almost immediately.
    edited December 2018 cornchipmuthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 23 of 61
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 9,989member
    So once again, according to comments here on AI, Apple is at fault. When will the class action lawsuit be filed claiming Apple has failed to protect its users from this?
    AppleExposedcornchip
  • Reply 24 of 61
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 9,989member
    payeco said:
    I agree with the premise but how could this possibly be enforced?
    It could not be enforced. NYC has enough crime on its hands already. This will create a whole new class of criminals that will raise the statistics without enforcement. It’s one of those feel good laws politicians like to pass and tout during election season. But knowing the uncanny ability of politicians to create more and more layers of bureaucracy and budgets for those bureaucracies it’s entirely possible that de Blasio will assemble a “task force” to stamp out these criminals. And while he’s at it why not demand a backdoor form Apple so they can track down the digital flashers. Am I right or am I right?

    “My twelve year old daughter got air dropped a picture of some perv’s wiener and evil, uncaring, insensitive Apple won't help the cops track the perp down.” You know it’s coming.
    edited December 2018 cornchipbeowulfschmidt
  • Reply 25 of 61
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,448member
    Am I incorrect that a person on the receiving end needs to "accept" and image before the transfer can happen? Why would anyone except a file from a unknown fellow subway rider? 
  • Reply 26 of 61
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,448member
    Its amazing how in 10 to 15 years that Apple lovers went from We Hate BIg Brother to we need more laws, more government control.  More laws to protect peoples feelings. Mind you nobody was hurt, nobody was injured.  You can turn off airdrop if you want, but no we need more laws, and more law enforcement.  I'd expect a law like this in New York or California, progressive er communist states. 
    Your point is 'all" laws are bad? Would a law which prevents phone spammers from calling you a dozen times per day be a bad law? At first glance this law seems unnecessary unless the receiver is unable to block these images. We have laws because some people are just dicks. 
  • Reply 27 of 61
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 12,016member
    Rayz2016 said:
    jdw said:
    If indeed Airdrop is "anonymous" (as it should be), how then can these evil-doers be caught and penalized?

    Why do you think AirDrop should be anonymous. I disagree entirely.
    I fully support the privacy thing, but at the same time, people needed to be protected from this sort of nonsense. Perhaps it would be better to prevent anonymous sending altogether. You can only send to a person if you’re in their contact list. 
    Disagree there — many times I have taken a photo of or for someone on the street and they want it too, and sending it via AD is better than texting. Definitely don’t wanna have to create a contact card first. 
    macplusplus
  • Reply 28 of 61
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 12,016member

    dysamoria said:
    Reminds me of bluejacking. But, dick pics... yeah, didn’t know this was a thing. Why does my “half” of the species have to be so gross?
    "half"? Get you sexist BS out of here. Hate to break your reality but females are not these innocent flowers oblivious to sex like you think. You criticize the rare male that does this but turn away when a female half-naked walks in public by an elementary school.

    chasm said:
    ireland said:
    A solution to solve this is to (1) not show an image preview (2) a message (blah blah wants to send you a photo, are you sure you want to accept it? “Cancel” and “Preview” buttons. For people in your contacts iOS couN’re saying when you suggest a “preview” option ...

    Heres a simpler and built-in solution ... simply change AirDrop’s default from “everyone” to “contacts.” You can do this right now, but in addition to that let me say I’m terribly sorry men have to such ... appendages ... and abusive to women.

    Hate to break your reality also but females are far more perverted than men. I myself have been flashed by females and I don't know a single male friend who hasn't either. Ever heard of prostitutes? Shorts? Yoga pants? Strip clubs? Thongs? P*rn? Of course you haven't. Females are these innocent, sexually oblivious beings walking the Earth.

    I agree we don't need another law, we already have millions of them. Apple needs to handle the data differently and I'm with the first poster, I've never seen this happen despite "half" the population doing this.
    Pure nonsense. Women wearing yoga pants isn’t akin to flashing a dick pic. And strip clubs? Men are paying for the exposure, that’s how unwilling women are to do it, men have to pay them to. 

    Flashers are predominantly men. As are rapists. As are serial killers. It’s not “sexist!” to say so, which it is absolute fact backed up by the data. 


    macplusplusroundaboutnow
  • Reply 29 of 61
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 12,016member

    Its amazing how in 10 to 15 years that Apple lovers went from We Hate BIg Brother to we need more laws, more government control.  More laws to protect peoples feelings. Mind you nobody was hurt, nobody was injured.  You can turn off airdrop if you want, but no we need more laws, and more law enforcement.  I'd expect a law like this in New York or California, progressive er communist states. 
    Of course you’re a man, so you don’t see the problem. Talk to women about whether they think unsolicited dick pics are harmless fun. My SO has had men expose themselves to her many times, and it doesn’t feel harmless. Especially since typically men are bigger and stronger than women. It’s aggressive and is an act of aggression. Saying virtual exposure is harmless is condoning the act, which will carry over to minimizing real life exposures. 

    Take your “but it’s harmless!” attitude back to the 1950s 
    elijahgmacguiroundaboutnowmuthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 30 of 61
    jcs2305jcs2305 Posts: 1,266member
    spice-boy said:
    Am I incorrect that a person on the receiving end needs to "accept" and image before the transfer can happen? Why would anyone except a file from a unknown fellow subway rider? 
    Yes you are correct. Also the default setting for Airdrop is contacts only.

    Rather than learning what airdrop is and how to use it’s settings a law needs to be made to protect people’s laziness. Hahaha what a joke. There is no way you can receive anything without giving permission ... period. 

    It is amazing to me that there are so many folks with iPhones who have never bothered to learn how to use them. 
  • Reply 31 of 61
    payecopayeco Posts: 517member
    spice-boy said:
    Am I incorrect that a person on the receiving end needs to "accept" and image before the transfer can happen? Why would anyone except a file from a unknown fellow subway rider? 
    You are correct that for the transfer to happen they need to accept it. But if you’re sending an image the accept window shows a large preview of the image. Did you not actually look at the article before you posted? They show what you see when someone sends you something but before you accept it right there.
    gatorguy
  • Reply 32 of 61
    I have both WiFi and Bluetooth disabled unless I’m using them.  AirDrop apparently needs both.  Sorry creepers...

    While I don’t have a problem with the law, but people need to do more to protect themselves.  Apple can make changes at there end also with regards to auto preview.

    I do see multiple difficulties enforcing the law, so maybe law enforcement working without th Apple is a better bet.
    baconstang
  • Reply 33 of 61
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,128member
    Two recurring themes here:

    1) it's Apple's fault - they're greedy and lazy
    2) it's the victims fault - they're 'asking for it' 

    It's OK for somebody to 'flash' another over the phone, because the victim should have had their settings on contacts only?

    God forbid they set them to Everyone for some group photo exchange, like kids or people on a field trip and forget to set them back. So punish them, not the 'flasher'. So, let's not make a law because that would be impinge the flasher's fun.
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 34 of 61
    ndnycndnyc Posts: 18member
    A ) It’s not a “big thing” in NYC. It happens very rarely. But it gets headlines. B ) Sexual harrassment is already a law. We don’t need a separate law for this. C ) 100% preventable by turning off “Everyone” in your AirDrop settings. D ) The money used to advertise/promote this new law is better used elsewhere. E ) Difficult if not impossible to enforce/prosecute.
    edited December 2018 cornchip
  • Reply 35 of 61
    netroxnetrox Posts: 1,159member
    I got creeped out when I got airdrop request from a child. No way. I have it set to accept only contacts.
  • Reply 36 of 61
    knowitallknowitall Posts: 1,648member
    chasm said:
    ireland said:
    A solution to solve this is to (1) not show an image preview (2) a message (blah blah wants to send you a photo, are you sure you want to accept it? “Cancel” and “Preview” buttons. For people in your contacts iOS couN’re saying when you suggest a “preview” option ...

    Heres a simpler and built-in solution ... simply change AirDrop’s default from “everyone” to “contacts.” You can do this right now, but in addition to that let me say I’m terribly sorry men have such ... appendages ... and abusive to women.

    Victim, abusive; that’s in itself a stereotype (sexists) view I personally would be offended by.
    edited December 2018
  • Reply 37 of 61
    sirozha said:
    Rayz2016 said:
    chasm said:
    ireland said:
    A solution to solve this is to (1) not show an image preview (2) a message (blah blah wants to send you a photo, are you sure you want to accept it? “Cancel” and “Preview” buttons. For people in your contacts iOS couN’re saying when you suggest a “preview” option ...

    Heres a simpler and built-in solution ... simply change AirDrop’s default from “everyone” to “contacts.” You can do this right now, but in addition to that let me say I’m terribly sorry men have to such ... appendages ... and abusive to women.
    Well, indeed. But the problem isn't the appendage; it's common decency, or lack of it. I think some people think this is not a really serious crime. Personally, I think someone who does this is simply gathering his 'courage' (for want of a better word) to escalate into something that these people would regard as serious.
    If you are sorry about the appendage, it’s quite easy nowadays to get rid of it. 
    Or hire Lorena Bobbitt to take care of it.
  • Reply 38 of 61
    ireland said:
    A solution to solve this is to (1) not show an image preview (2) a message (blah blah wants to send you a photo, are you sure you want to accept it? “Cancel” and “Preview” buttons. For people in your contacts iOS could preview the image automatically. With perhaps so parental controls? Done. No new law required. What’s next?
    Apple must implement this.
  • Reply 39 of 61
    entropysentropys Posts: 3,400member
    Bummer!

    (Thank you, I will see myself out)

    Seriously though, why does this need its own law? Existing obscenity laws should already deal with this, and public shaming. This announcement stinks of typical politician grandstanding. Too many lawyers in politics that think every problem needs anew law. Like a chippy with a hammer, every problem looks like a nail that just needs a bit extra hammering.
  • Reply 40 of 61
    AppleExposedAppleExposed Posts: 1,805unconfirmed, member
    sirozha said:
    sirozha said:
    This is very easy to enforce. Make Apple show the IP address of the person airdropping the content and make the log of IPs easily viewable by the user. 

    The harassment victim then calls the police and reports the IP address. The carrier (on the request from the police) identifies the phone which had that IP during the time logged. The owner is then identified. 

    NYC has cameras in many places. The police reviews the camera footage to prove that the iPhone owner and the victim in fact entered the subway around the time when the incident happened. 

    Case proven. 
    That's way too complicated.

    All Apple needs to do is show a prompt that says "SoAndSo wants to send you a picture". You accept or not.

    That's is.
    Apple already displays this prompt. The prompt has a preview of the image. 
    I guess I didn't make myself clear.....


    A prompt WITHOUT an image.

    So it looks like this:

    SoAndSo wants to send you an image

    [Accept]                 [Decline]


    If you click "decline" the prompt disappears.

    If you click "accept" then you get this:


    Simple. The fact Apple shows you the image BEFORE you even accept it is pretty dumb.


    cornchipgatorguy
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