Spying has little to do with anything. Everybody will try to spy on everyone else, just like they always have. This is about competition.
Nope. Japan is set to effectively ban government purchases of telecommunications products from China’s Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and ZTE Corp over fears of intelligence leaks and cyber attacks, the Yomiuri newspaper reported on Friday. In addition, Australia and New Zealand have blocked Huawei from building 5G networks, while Britain’s BT Group said on Wednesday it was removing Huawei’s equipment from the core of its existing 3G and 4G mobile operations.
Over the past couple of years, Huawei has reportedly circumvented sanctions imposed on North Korea and Iran, providing the countries with telecom equipment that can be used for extensive spying on populations, so-called dual use technologies.
Last month, senior German officials said they are planning a last-ditch drive to convince the government to consider excluding Chinese firms such as Huawei from building the country's 5G infrastructure.
"There is serious concern. If it were up to me we would do what the Australians are doing," one official told Reuters news agency.
LOL...more and more countries are now banning Huawei crap.
Fears, not facts.
There are people in the US government that are 'scared' (I'm quoting literally) of Huawei.
The US is pressuring its allies to stop Huawei on the grounds of 'security fears' that have been denied by Huawei and are literally unsupported by any facts.
The irony is that those 'allies' have already caught the NSA spying on them on numerous occasions.
Security has little to do with reality in this case (Huawei). What the US is trying to do is not be relegated on a technological level and having someone like Huawei running a large part of the world's communications backbone strikes fear into some people.
Based on your “rumor” tree without any actual source? LOL
Spying has little to do with anything. Everybody will try to spy on everyone else, just like they always have. This is about competition.
Nope. Japan is set to effectively ban government purchases of telecommunications products from China’s Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and ZTE Corp over fears of intelligence leaks and cyber attacks, the Yomiuri newspaper reported on Friday. In addition, Australia and New Zealand have blocked Huawei from building 5G networks, while Britain’s BT Group said on Wednesday it was removing Huawei’s equipment from the core of its existing 3G and 4G mobile operations.
Over the past couple of years, Huawei has reportedly circumvented sanctions imposed on North Korea and Iran, providing the countries with telecom equipment that can be used for extensive spying on populations, so-called dual use technologies.
Last month, senior German officials said they are planning a last-ditch drive to convince the government to consider excluding Chinese firms such as Huawei from building the country's 5G infrastructure.
"There is serious concern. If it were up to me we would do what the Australians are doing," one official told Reuters news agency.
LOL...more and more countries are now banning Huawei crap.
Fears, not facts.
There are people in the US government that are 'scared' (I'm quoting literally) of Huawei.
The US is pressuring its allies to stop Huawei on the grounds of 'security fears' that have been denied by Huawei and are literally unsupported by any facts.
The irony is that those 'allies' have already caught the NSA spying on them on numerous occasions.
Security has little to do with reality in this case (Huawei). What the US is trying to do is not be relegated on a technological level and having someone like Huawei running a large part of the world's communications backbone strikes fear into some people.
Based on your “rumor” tree without any actual source? LOL
Take a look for yourself:
"Chuck Grassley of Iowa, one of the longest-serving Senate Republicans, says he’s worried about the prospect of American telecommunications companies becoming dependent on a Chinese manufacturer whose motives he finds suspect. “I can’t pronounce their name,” Grassley says, “but it starts with an H and ends with a W-E-I. Whenever they’re involved, it scares the devil out of me.”
"The Journal piece states that the U.S. is so concerned that it is even considering giving countries more financial aid if they avoid Chinese-made telecoms equipment."
"While the headlines about the Trump administration’s trade warwith Beijing often focus on raw materials such as steel, aluminium and soyabeans, the underlying motivation of the new protectionist mood is American anxiety about China’s rapidly growing technological prowess."
@tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.
Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.
Huawei...BANNED. Sorry. They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party. Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business. Oh wait...they support terrorist nations. Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.
Check out Amazon US.
There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.
I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.
Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%? Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN? The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!
You our want to keep defending Huawei? If so, then you’re pathetic.
Honest answer: I support facts.
The facts are the Huawei and ZTE resold U.S. technology into Iran at a time that Iran was sanctioned. ZTE has already paid for their mistake.
@tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.
Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.
Huawei...BANNED. Sorry. They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party. Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business. Oh wait...they support terrorist nations. Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.
Check out Amazon US.
There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.
I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.
Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%? Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN? The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!
You our want to keep defending Huawei? If so, then you’re pathetic.
Really. Saudi Arabia has killed more Americans and currently has a terrorist running it guilty of war crimes against civilian populations. And Apple has no problem doing business with them.
@tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.
Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.
Huawei...BANNED. Sorry. They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party. Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business. Oh wait...they support terrorist nations. Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.
Check out Amazon US.
There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.
I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.
Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%? Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN? The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!
You our want to keep defending Huawei? If so, then you’re pathetic.
Really. Saudi Arabia has killed more Americans and currently has a terrorist running it guilty of war crimes against civilian populations. And Apple has no problem doing business with them.
Spying has little to do with anything. Everybody will try to spy on everyone else, just like they always have. This is about competition.
Nope. Japan is set to effectively ban government purchases of telecommunications products from China’s Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and ZTE Corp over fears of intelligence leaks and cyber attacks, the Yomiuri newspaper reported on Friday. In addition, Australia and New Zealand have blocked Huawei from building 5G networks, while Britain’s BT Group said on Wednesday it was removing Huawei’s equipment from the core of its existing 3G and 4G mobile operations.
Over the past couple of years, Huawei has reportedly circumvented sanctions imposed on North Korea and Iran, providing the countries with telecom equipment that can be used for extensive spying on populations, so-called dual use technologies.
Last month, senior German officials said they are planning a last-ditch drive to convince the government to consider excluding Chinese firms such as Huawei from building the country's 5G infrastructure.
"There is serious concern. If it were up to me we would do what the Australians are doing," one official told Reuters news agency.
LOL...more and more countries are now banning Huawei crap.
Fears, not facts.
There are people in the US government that are 'scared' (I'm quoting literally) of Huawei.
The US is pressuring its allies to stop Huawei on the grounds of 'security fears' that have been denied by Huawei and are literally unsupported by any facts.
The irony is that those 'allies' have already caught the NSA spying on them on numerous occasions.
Security has little to do with reality in this case (Huawei). What the US is trying to do is not be relegated on a technological level and having someone like Huawei running a large part of the world's communications backbone strikes fear into some people.
Based on your “rumor” tree without any actual source? LOL
Take a look for yourself:
"Chuck Grassley of Iowa, one of the longest-serving Senate Republicans, says he’s worried about the prospect of American telecommunications companies becoming dependent on a Chinese manufacturer whose motives he finds suspect. “I can’t pronounce their name,” Grassley says, “but it starts with an H and ends with a W-E-I. Whenever they’re involved, it scares the devil out of me.”
"The Journal piece states that the U.S. is so concerned that it is even considering giving countries more financial aid if they avoid Chinese-made telecoms equipment."
"While the headlines about the Trump administration’s trade warwith Beijing often focus on raw materials such as steel, aluminium and soyabeans, the underlying motivation of the new protectionist mood is American anxiety about China’s rapidly growing technological prowess."
Thanks...all confirm that no one trust the terrorist supporting, renown-cheating Huawei.
“However, it’s important to note that Canada is conducting a review of whether Huawei equipment poses a national security risk.
Harper went on to say that western allies need to address “Chinese rule-breaking,” which have allowed the Chinese to “frankly exploit a trade relationship.””
“In principle, controlling the technology that sits at the heart of vital communications networks gives Huawei the capacity to conduct espionage or disrupt communications during any future dispute, particularly as more things, from autonomous vehicles to domestic appliances become connected to the internet. Countries using Huawei equipment monitor such risks carefully.
But the US also points more generally to China's National Intelligence Law passed in 2017 that says organisations must "support, co-operate with and collaborate in national intelligence work".
As a result, the US, Australia and New Zealand have all blocked local firms from using Huawei to provide the technology for next-generation 5G mobile networks.
Looks like more and more countries are banning Huawei crap due to spying concerns.
“...the US also points more generally to China's National Intelligence Law passed in 2017 that says organisations must "support, co-operate with and collaborate in national intelligence work".
THIS is the biggest problem. No matter what Huawei says, it is by law that they MUST cooperate with China’s government in intelligence of their own citizen BUT also foreign bodies.
Article Seven stipulates that “any organization or citizen shall support, assist, and cooperate with state intelligence work according to law.”
Article 11: National intelligence work institutions shall lawfully collect and process relevant intelligences on foreign bodies, organizations and individuals engaged in, or inciting or assisting others to engage in, or domestic bodies, organizations and individuals who collude with foreign bodies, organizations or individuals to engage in harm to the national security and interests of the People’s Republic of China, in order to provide intelligence as a reference and basis and reference for preventing, curbing and punishing the above acts.
Article 12: National intelligence work institutions may, according to relevant state regulations, establish cooperative relationships with relevant individuals and organizations, and commission them to carry out related work.
Article 14: National intelligence work institutions, when carrying out intelligence work according to laws, may ask relevant institutions, organizations and citizens to provide necessary support, assistance and cooperation.
Terrorists connection + China spy-biatch + known history of repeatedly cheating = Huawei.
@tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.
Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.
Huawei...BANNED. Sorry. They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party. Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business. Oh wait...they support terrorist nations. Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.
Check out Amazon US.
There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.
I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.
Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%? Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN? The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!
You our want to keep defending Huawei? If so, then you’re pathetic.
Really. Saudi Arabia has killed more Americans and currently has a terrorist running it guilty of war crimes against civilian populations. And Apple has no problem doing business with them.
Saudi is worst than Iran in your eyes?
Different sides of the same coin really. Just that they have been on our side vs Russia’s. Realpolitik trumps idealism when there is an existential threat. Russia represents an active hostile threat to democracy around the world. China is a more passive one but presses against democracies we support in Asia: Japan, South Korea, Taiwan.
The Chinese threat is both over and underestimated. Tools like Avon will puff them up because the EU isn’t even in the running for top dog...much less a 2nd tier EU county like Spain...so wants to bag on the US and support a country that is antithetical to the values of the EU because...well he’s a tool.
The PRC will challenge us in Asia and move against our friends so there is no need to help them out technologically. At its heart the CHICOM government is opposed to democracy and freedom. As much as I might be less than impressed with Samsung I would much rather buy Samsung or Sony than Huawei.
Their strength will naturally increase over time because they were hampered so long from self inflicted ideological wounds so the level of tech and prosperity should reach roughly the same level as USSR vs the west at its peak and that’s a substantial threat. But at the end of the day, a repressive regime doesn’t foster the kind of freedom that produces Silicon Valley. China’s regime has become more and not less repressive. Huawei is just a part of their state and not representative of progress like some of their other large corporations. Some of which has had CEOs detained by their security in an extralegal fashion. 34 in 2016.
But to PRC cheerleader Avon it’s the US that’s the bad guys driven by fear.
You don't think maybe they could spend some money on a better? Maybe something that lasts a little longer? iPhone batteries die pretty early in in any very tests.
On the screen - from the outside, it looks like iPhone XR is running a screen from 2013. It can't do FullHD - you reckon this is all the eye can see? There is no need for anything higher?
In my book the iphone 7plus and 8plus have better screens because of the higher pixel density. Giving the average screen a new name doesn't make it better.
I think so too ... but the majority don't.
Remember that Apple once told them the human eye can't see more than 330dpi ... so anything higher is pointless (and then they made higher ... hehe).
So like you can see the one a year behind and the one destroyed by an a year old GPU is the apple A12 bionic. I dont know if you but I have both right now in my hands.
On the CPU the A12 bionic is faster but on the GPU dont even dream with that.
"The Chinese threat is both over and underestimated. Tools like Avon will puff them up because the EU isn’t even in the running for top dog...much less a 2nd tier EU county like Spain...so wants to bag on the US and support a country that is antithetical to the values of the EU because...well he’s a tool."
When someone throws insults around as much as you do, you know they've lost the plot
This from MIT technology Review:
"Spain is fast becoming a leader in innovation and generating advanced solutions in the industries of aerospace, renewable energies, water treatment, rail, biotechnology, industrial machinery and civil engineering. The country is determined to deepen and intensify its productive specialization in industries that depend on technology and innovation"
Not bad from a 'second tier' country. As if it was important anyway! Add that to other input from EU countries and you can see why the US is worried about losing influence around the world.
Current policy will only accelerate China's objective and determination to depend on itself. The exact same reason was given by the EU although they only began the process in earnest two years ago and still have a way to go.
Oh, and take a look around the US for its high speed rail link projects. Spanish companies are picking up business right in your own back yard.
All the 'top dog', 'we', 'our' etc references show how blind you are to world realities.
Trump scuppered the Broadcom takeover because Qualcomm would have been weakened as a result in his viewpoint. That shows how weak the US position has become in influential technology. Huawei wants to sell AI hardware to Microsoft. Will that get scuppered too?
Now Trump wants to create a new US variant of 5G to place the US in a sort of communications bubble. Can you imagine how much that will cost the taxpayer?
I see this latest A12 chip is just under 10% faster than the Kirin 980 ...
When you speak to some iPhone owners, they speak like it's 5 years ahead of anything on the market and annihilates everything else.
But 10%, really?
From the other thread responding YOU:
You do realize that Kirin 980 CPU multicore score is only 10% less is because it has 2 more BIG cores than iPhone XS A12, right? I mean you're not THAT stupid, are you? It actually is much greater than 10% if you factor in that A12 only has 2 BIG cores (and 4 small efficiency cores). Kirin 980 has 4 BIG cores (A76) and 4 small/efficiency cores. The difference is HUGE between A12 and Kirin 980. But why argue...let's get someone smart to comment....
From Anandtech: "Looking at the wider range of historical SPEC2006 scores, we see theKirin 980 just losing out to Apple’s A10 (from 2016...TWO YRS AGO) in terms of performance. No, the Kirin 980 certainly is not able to match Apple’s A12, or even A11 for that matter, and it’s likely this situation won’t change all that much in the next few generations, at least until the Android SoC vendors invest in significantly better and more robust memory subsystems.
Oh, BTW, Anandtech's CPU testing is with "Performance mode ON" (also known as benchmark cheating mode). So, even with that, it cannot even beat a 2 years old Apple chip (A10). THINK about that for a moment there kid.
Congratulations, your Mate 20 Pro has the worst performing display on the market for a flagship and its CPU cannot even catch up to a 2016 Apple chip!!
So like you can see the one a year behind and the one destroyed by an a year old GPU is the apple A12 bionic. I dont know if you but I have both right now in my hands.
On the CPU the A12 bionic is faster but on the GPU dont even dream with that.
3D Mark has a bug in it that causes crashes unless iPhone was warm. So, the score is off. In other GPU testings, A12 spanks S845 by a wide margin. In fact, it is likely that A12 will still lead in GPU over the S855.
@tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.
Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.
Huawei...BANNED. Sorry. They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party. Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business. Oh wait...they support terrorist nations. Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.
Check out Amazon US.
There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.
I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.
Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%? Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN? The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!
You our want to keep defending Huawei? If so, then you’re pathetic.
Really. Saudi Arabia has killed more Americans and currently has a terrorist running it guilty of war crimes against civilian populations. And Apple has no problem doing business with them.
Saudi is worst than Iran in your eyes?
Easily. Saudi Arabia consistently supports terrorist organizations like ISIS and Al Qaedda. Remember when they killed over a 1000 Americans on 9/11. MBS should be extradited to the Hague to stand trial for War Crimes. Best thing to stop Terrorism is switching to EVs.
@tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.
Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.
Huawei...BANNED. Sorry. They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party. Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business. Oh wait...they support terrorist nations. Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.
Check out Amazon US.
There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.
I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.
Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%? Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN? The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!
You our want to keep defending Huawei? If so, then you’re pathetic.
Really. Saudi Arabia has killed more Americans and currently has a terrorist running it guilty of war crimes against civilian populations. And Apple has no problem doing business with them.
Saudi is worst than Iran in your eyes?
Easily. Saudi Arabia consistently supports terrorist organizations like ISIS and Al Qaedda. Remember when they killed over a 1000 Americans on 9/11. MBS should be extradited to the Hague to stand trial for War Crimes. Best thing to stop Terrorism is switching to EVs.
Not when we have abundant of oil underneath us....
So like you can see the one a year behind and the one destroyed by an a year old GPU is the apple A12 bionic. I dont know if you but I have both right now in my hands.
On the CPU the A12 bionic is faster but on the GPU dont even dream with that.
3D Mark has a bug in it that causes crashes unless iPhone was warm. So, the score is off. In other GPU testings, A12 spanks S845 by a wide margin. In fact, it is likely that A12 will still lead in GPU over the S855.
Are you crazy 3Dmark never crash on iOS not even in the first day I got the iPhone x max.
antutu on iOS use metal on android open gl es 3.1
A12 Bionic is a 7nm technology vs 10 Memory on the iPhone runs a 2133 mhz vs 1866.
And how big is the difference between your iPhone probably the 128 GB or more ( a faster storage) and the galaxy s9+ 64 GB??? Just with the 7 nm technology the iPhone is 30% more faster thant the 10 nm technology on the galaxy s9+ and still you do not score a lot more than me.
And yes 3Dmark is the only Benchmark that support every api out there and the most complete one and you like or not the iPhone lose on the GPU side.
So like you can see the one a year behind and the one destroyed by an a year old GPU is the apple A12 bionic. I dont know if you but I have both right now in my hands.
On the CPU the A12 bionic is faster but on the GPU dont even dream with that.
3D Mark has a bug in it that causes crashes unless iPhone was warm. So, the score is off. In other GPU testings, A12 spanks S845 by a wide margin. In fact, it is likely that A12 will still lead in GPU over the S855.
Are you crazy 3Dmark never crash on iOS not even in the first day I got the iPhone x max.
antutu on iOS use metal on android open gl es 3.1
A12 Bionic is a 7nm technology vs 10 Memory on the iPhone runs a 2133 mhz vs 1866.
And how big is the difference between your iPhone probably the 128 GB or more ( a faster storage) and the galaxy s9+ 64 GB??? Just with the 7 nm technology the iPhone is 30% more faster thant the 10 nm technology on the galaxy s9+ and still you do not score a lot more than me.
And yes 3Dmark is the only Benchmark that support every api out there and the most complete one and you like or not the iPhone lose on the GPU side.
Dude stop lying. iPhone X max?? That must be limited edition! Lol
Read Anandtech review.
So, you think that S845 GPU is better than A12?!?!
you think that? Really?!
Does Fortnite officially run at 60 FPS on your s9+? Mine does.
So like you can see the one a year behind and the one destroyed by an a year old GPU is the apple A12 bionic. I dont know if you but I have both right now in my hands.
On the CPU the A12 bionic is faster but on the GPU dont even dream with that.
3D Mark has a bug in it that causes crashes unless iPhone was warm. So, the score is off. In other GPU testings, A12 spanks S845 by a wide margin. In fact, it is likely that A12 will still lead in GPU over the S855.
Are you crazy 3Dmark never crash on iOS not even in the first day I got the iPhone x max.
antutu on iOS use metal on android open gl es 3.1
A12 Bionic is a 7nm technology vs 10 Memory on the iPhone runs a 2133 mhz vs 1866.
And how big is the difference between your iPhone probably the 128 GB or more ( a faster storage) and the galaxy s9+ 64 GB??? Just with the 7 nm technology the iPhone is 30% more faster thant the 10 nm technology on the galaxy s9+ and still you do not score a lot more than me.
And yes 3Dmark is the only Benchmark that support every api out there and the most complete one and you like or not the iPhone lose on the GPU side.
Dude stop lying. iPhone X max?? That must be limited edition! Lol
Read Anandtech review.
So, you think that S845 GPU is better than A12?!?!
you think that? Really?!
Does Fortnite officially run at 60 FPS on your s9+? Mine does.
did you know why fortnite do not run at 60 fps on android hahahha the same developer told that the problems is not the performance, the problems is the different version of android. each OM have diferent optimization and diferent memory managment and thats why.
So like you can see the one a year behind and the one destroyed by an a year old GPU is the apple A12 bionic. I dont know if you but I have both right now in my hands.
On the CPU the A12 bionic is faster but on the GPU dont even dream with that.
3D Mark has a bug in it that causes crashes unless iPhone was warm. So, the score is off. In other GPU testings, A12 spanks S845 by a wide margin. In fact, it is likely that A12 will still lead in GPU over the S855.
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"Chuck Grassley of Iowa, one of the longest-serving Senate Republicans, says he’s worried about the prospect of American telecommunications companies becoming dependent on a Chinese manufacturer whose motives he finds suspect. “I can’t pronounce their name,” Grassley says, “but it starts with an H and ends with a W-E-I. Whenever they’re involved, it scares the devil out of me.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-03-22/why-america-is-so-scared-of-china-s-biggest-tech-company
"The Journal piece states that the U.S. is so concerned that it is even considering giving countries more financial aid if they avoid Chinese-made telecoms equipment."
http://fortune.com/2018/11/23/us-huawei-espionage/
"While the headlines about the Trump administration’s trade warwith Beijing often focus on raw materials such as steel, aluminium and soyabeans, the underlying motivation of the new protectionist mood is American anxiety about China’s rapidly growing technological prowess."
https://www.ft.com/content/40304bea-7eb9-11e8-bc55-50daf11b720d
"The NSA did not just tap German chancellor Angela Merkel’s phone but also listened in on finance, economy, agriculture and other ministers"
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jul/02/wikileaks-us-spied-on-angela-merkels-ministers-too-says-german-newspaper
“However, it’s important to note that Canada is conducting a review of whether Huawei equipment poses a national security risk.
Harper went on to say that western allies need to address “Chinese rule-breaking,” which have allowed the Chinese to “frankly exploit a trade relationship.””
“In principle, controlling the technology that sits at the heart of vital communications networks gives Huawei the capacity to conduct espionage or disrupt communications during any future dispute, particularly as more things, from autonomous vehicles to domestic appliances become connected to the internet. Countries using Huawei equipment monitor such risks carefully.
But the US also points more generally to China's National Intelligence Law passed in 2017 that says organisations must "support, co-operate with and collaborate in national intelligence work".
As a result, the US, Australia and New Zealand have all blocked local firms from using Huawei to provide the technology for next-generation 5G mobile networks.
Looks like more and more countries are banning Huawei crap due to spying concerns.
THIS is the biggest problem. No matter what Huawei says, it is by law that they MUST cooperate with China’s government in intelligence of their own citizen BUT also foreign bodies.
Article Seven stipulates that “any organization or citizen shall support, assist, and cooperate with state intelligence work according to law.”
Article 11: National intelligence work institutions shall lawfully collect and process relevant intelligences on foreign bodies, organizations and individuals engaged in, or inciting or assisting others to engage in, or domestic bodies, organizations and individuals who collude with foreign bodies, organizations or individuals to engage in harm to the national security and interests of the People’s Republic of China, in order to provide intelligence as a reference and basis and reference for preventing, curbing and punishing the above acts.
Article 12: National intelligence work institutions may, according to relevant state regulations, establish cooperative relationships with relevant individuals and organizations, and commission them to carry out related work.
Article 14: National intelligence work institutions, when carrying out intelligence work according to laws, may ask relevant institutions, organizations and citizens to provide necessary support, assistance and cooperation.
Terrorists connection + China spy-biatch + known history of repeatedly cheating = Huawei.
The Chinese threat is both over and underestimated. Tools like Avon will puff them up because the EU isn’t even in the running for top dog...much less a 2nd tier EU county like Spain...so wants to bag on the US and support a country that is antithetical to the values of the EU because...well he’s a tool.
The PRC will challenge us in Asia and move against our friends so there is no need to help them out technologically. At its heart the CHICOM government is opposed to democracy and freedom. As much as I might be less than impressed with Samsung I would much rather buy Samsung or Sony than Huawei.
Their strength will naturally increase over time because they were hampered so long from self inflicted ideological wounds so the level of tech and prosperity should reach roughly the same level as USSR vs the west at its peak and that’s a substantial threat. But at the end of the day, a repressive regime doesn’t foster the kind of freedom that produces Silicon Valley. China’s regime has become more and not less repressive. Huawei is just a part of their state and not representative of progress like some of their other large corporations. Some of which has had CEOs detained by their security in an extralegal fashion. 34 in 2016.
But to PRC cheerleader Avon it’s the US that’s the bad guys driven by fear.
When you speak to some iPhone owners, they speak like it's 5 years ahead of anything on the market and annihilates everything else.
But 10%, really?
Remember that Apple once told them the human eye can't see more than 330dpi ... so anything higher is pointless (and then they made higher ... hehe).
Antutu bench
iPhone x max 64 GB
7 nm technology
Ram: 2133 mhz
Api: metal 2 (multicore support)
GPU score 124,528
Galaxy s9+
Snapdragon 845 GPU adreno 630
10 nm technology
Ram: 1866 mhz
Api: opengl 3.1 (single core)
GPU score 128,091
3D mark
iPhone x max
4231
Galaxy s9+
5099
So like you can see the one a year behind and the one destroyed by an a year old GPU is the apple A12 bionic. I dont know if you but I have both right now in my hands.
On the CPU the A12 bionic is faster but on the GPU dont even dream with that.
Get the right information before post a blog.
This from MIT technology Review:
"Spain is fast becoming a leader in innovation and generating advanced solutions in the industries of aerospace, renewable energies, water treatment, rail, biotechnology, industrial machinery and civil engineering. The country is determined to deepen and intensify its productive specialization in industries that depend on technology and innovation"
Not bad from a 'second tier' country. As if it was important anyway! Add that to other input from EU countries and you can see why the US is worried about losing influence around the world.
Current policy will only accelerate China's objective and determination to depend on itself. The exact same reason was given by the EU although they only began the process in earnest two years ago and still have a way to go.
Oh, and take a look around the US for its high speed rail link projects. Spanish companies are picking up business right in your own back yard.
All the 'top dog', 'we', 'our' etc references show how blind you are to world realities.
Trump scuppered the Broadcom takeover because Qualcomm would have been weakened as a result in his viewpoint. That shows how weak the US position has become in influential technology. Huawei wants to sell AI hardware to Microsoft. Will that get scuppered too?
Now Trump wants to create a new US variant of 5G to place the US in a sort of communications bubble. Can you imagine how much that will cost the taxpayer?
You do realize that Kirin 980 CPU multicore score is only 10% less is because it has 2 more BIG cores than iPhone XS A12, right? I mean you're not THAT stupid, are you? It actually is much greater than 10% if you factor in that A12 only has 2 BIG cores (and 4 small efficiency cores). Kirin 980 has 4 BIG cores (A76) and 4 small/efficiency cores. The difference is HUGE between A12 and Kirin 980. But why argue...let's get someone smart to comment....
From Anandtech: "Looking at the wider range of historical SPEC2006 scores, we see the Kirin 980 just losing out to Apple’s A10 (from 2016...TWO YRS AGO) in terms of performance. No, the Kirin 980 certainly is not able to match Apple’s A12, or even A11 for that matter, and it’s likely this situation won’t change all that much in the next few generations, at least until the Android SoC vendors invest in significantly better and more robust memory subsystems.
Oh, BTW, Anandtech's CPU testing is with "Performance mode ON" (also known as benchmark cheating mode). So, even with that, it cannot even beat a 2 years old Apple chip (A10). THINK about that for a moment there kid.
Congratulations, your Mate 20 Pro has the worst performing display on the market for a flagship and its CPU cannot even catch up to a 2016 Apple chip!!
AnTuTu is far from being a true benchmark in anything...but here are my scores on my XS: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3168698-post19.html
3D Mark has a bug in it that causes crashes unless iPhone was warm. So, the score is off. In other GPU testings, A12 spanks S845 by a wide margin. In fact, it is likely that A12 will still lead in GPU over the S855.
Read Anandtech review.
So, you think that S845 GPU is better than A12?!?!
you think that? Really?!
Does Fortnite officially run at 60 FPS on your s9+? Mine does.
read first and try the next time.
and if you go with the 45% cpu performca increase and the 20% gpu you will see that those numbers are rigth. my numbers (360,145) based in qualcom performance and my scores.
again dont even go there.