Microsoft Office apps updated with support for latest macOS Mojave features including Dark...

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• Reply 1 of 26

  MplsP Posts: 3,925member

  December 12, 2018 3:07AM

  I'm trying to figure out what the big deal is with dark mode. I tried it - things looked different and often times it mad ether interface lest clear. (ex: try to tell if you're in a private browsing window in safari with dark mode!) In the end it really didn't matter and I switched it back. Beyond that, I have to use Outlook for work, and man is it a PITA to use!

  
• Reply 2 of 26

  firelock Posts: 238member

  December 12, 2018 3:30AM

  I am trying out dark mode, which I thought I would like because I use Photoshop all day long and so I work in a dark office for color accuracy. So far I’m not liking it too much. Windows are more difficult to make out in Safari and everything just kind of blends together. I’m going to stick with it for awhile longer to see if I can get used to it. Also because bright white screens tend to tire my eyes more the older I get.
  
  

  
• Reply 3 of 26

  lkrupp Posts: 10,557member

  December 12, 2018 3:38AM

  MplsP said:

  I'm trying to figure out what the big deal is with dark mode. I tried it - things looked different and often times it mad ether interface lest clear. (ex: try to tell if you're in a private browsing window in safari with dark mode!) In the end it really didn't matter and I switched it back. Beyond that, I have to use Outlook for work, and man is it a PITA to use!

  Like so many of these kinds of features its something the design engineers think is cool or some people asked for. I tired dark mode too and soon returned to regular mode. I guess it’s supposed to be easier on the eyes for those who stare at a screen for 10 hours a day or something.
  
  But i installed the Office updates without issues and have to say that an Office 365 subscription has worked out well for me and my wife. The 1TB One Drive account included is nice along with Skype.  I don’t mind the subscription model for apps that I use everyday and are important to me for my data and finances, like Quicken. You’re always on the latest version and have little to worry about when it comes to compatibility with macOS or iOS. 

  
• Reply 4 of 26

  davidh2016 Posts: 17member

  December 12, 2018 8:21AM

  I tried dark mode for a week. I liked the look on the screen but I often have to print what I see on the screen including emails and contact cards. Unless I am interest in buying stock in HP to try an recoup the money I would spend on black toner cartridges, I decided dark mode is not for me.
• Reply 5 of 26

  urahara Posts: 733member

  December 12, 2018 10:58AM

  I love dark mode (only not for the Apple Mail - the backround is just almost black).
  At work I even have a "Darke Reader" extension for Chrome (try it - it's really cool for lot's of reading while browsing).

  
• Reply 6 of 26

  hface119 Posts: 36member

  December 12, 2018 11:40AM

  I love dark mode and use it 100% of the time. Your brain absolutely needs time to become used to it, but that’s to be expected. 

  
• Reply 7 of 26

  macxpress Posts: 5,808member

  December 12, 2018 12:17PM

  I love dark mode....its a feature of macOS I've been waiting for years! My Mac is permanently set to dark mode. I think it's a much nicer interface. I wish iOS had a full dark mode too. 

  edited December 2018
• Reply 8 of 26

  seanismorris Posts: 1,624member

  December 12, 2018 12:42PM

  I use dark mode in the Kindle App on my IPad (7+ years now) and will never go back.
  
  I tried “dark mode” in general in IOS and it was poorly implemented.  We’ll see about Mac...
  
  My guess is it needs to be App (or website) specific rather at the OS level to work well.  For example, having a dark mode selector in Safari and Word to easy switch back and forth.  I do use dark mode on royalroad.com (webnovels) and it works well.
  
  Bottom line:
  If you’re reading a huge amount of text it works, but I’m skeptical of its value elsewhere. (For example: content creation in Word)
• Reply 9 of 26

  mainyehc Posts: 133member

  December 12, 2018 1:09PM

  seanismorris said:

  I use dark mode in the Kindle App on my IPad (7+ years now) and will never go back.
  
  I tried “dark mode” in general in IOS and it was poorly implemented.  We’ll see about Mac...
  
  My guess is it needs to be App (or website) specific rather at the OS level to work well.  For example, having a dark mode selector in Safari and Word to easy switch back and forth.  I do use dark mode on royalroad.com (webnovels) and it works well.
  
  Bottom line:
  If you’re reading a huge amount of text it works, but I’m skeptical of its value elsewhere. (For example: content creation in Word)

  As it is currently implemented, it is useless in Word because the “dark” part of the equation only affects the window chrome, not the actual pages and content. I find myself having to trigger light mode and invert both all colours and my highlight colour (before the days of Mojave I had a script for that, but it ceased working) to get a true, system-wide dark mode. Then, I can finally work in Word properly. To top it off, I run f.lux at the strongest day and night settings respectively, which makes my screen look like an amber monochrome CRT. Full disclaimer: I am finishing my MA dissertation, so I have to spend hours on end daily either writing in Word or reading PDFs, so I guess I’m one of “those people” this thing is aimed at. And it doesn’t work because neither Adobe nor Microsoft give their users a chance to make the actual content dark (I don’t care whether it breaks the WYSIWYG paradigm; as long as the software in question educates the end-user about that upon triggering said features, it should work out fine).
  
  davidh2016 said:

  I tried dark mode for a week. I liked the look on the screen but I often have to print what I see on the screen including emails and contact cards. Unless I am interest in buying stock in HP to try an recoup the money I would spend on black toner cartridges, I decided dark mode is not for me.

  Well, here, there was a failure on Apple’s part in not explicitly educating the end user. Obviously, said e-mails would not print as white on black; on the other hand, had you tried to do a print job, you’d have seen that for yourself in the print preview viewport on the print dialog/sheet.
  
  As for WYSIWYG Microsoft apps, it is indeed possible to make Word documents white on black; those, however, would indeed print as white on black, and I would have the inverse problem whenever printing out copies or sending out PDFs for my tutor for revision. I just want a non-WYSIWYG theme setting like the one Word for Windows users had for years (and yes, I know that setting was probably aimed at diehard fans of Word for MS-DOS, but still; I care only for whatever is easier on the eyes).

  edited December 2018
• Reply 10 of 26

  dewme Posts: 5,362member

  December 12, 2018 1:19PM

  I'm just happy to have the option of having dark mode, in general, regardless of personal preferences. Some people like it and some people don't. No big deal. My only complaint with dark mode in iOS and macOS is the inability to apply it more widely and consistently across the entire user interface. The "smart invert" feature on iOS has too many instances where the dark mode algorithm messes up the display of visual elements like embedded images.

  
  

  It all comes down to the same question: do you prefer to have a personal product that can be made to conform to your preferences or do you prefer a personal product that makes you conform to the product designer's preferences? With hardware you typically have no choice or very little choice, e.g., silver, space gray, or rose gold, due to physical constraints and cost. With software the choices do not have to be quite so stark because software is extremely malleable, although cost is still a constraint.
  

  
  

  Sure, this is not a binary situation where there are overarching standards that must be enforced, e.g., stop signs should probably not suddenly be pink and green, but where personalization makes sense, I'm all for having the option to make the product conform to my preferences. This is especially important when my preferences are influenced by the environment that I am using the product within or factors that affect me in a unique way.
  

  
• Reply 11 of 26

  lorin schultz Posts: 2,771member

  December 12, 2018 2:18PM

  mainyehc said:

  As it is currently implemented, it is useless in Word because the “dark” part of the equation only affects the window chrome, not the actual pages and content.

  Are you using the new, just-released version of Office the article is describing, or a previous version?
• Reply 12 of 26

  bigpics Posts: 1,397member

  December 12, 2018 2:22PM

  Question:  So if you subscribe to Office 365, do you get to (download and) work in the full Mac OS version on your Mac and not in some browser version?
  
  And other than how you pay for it, are there any particular pros and cons between going with one or the other ways of purchasing (besides being licensed on multiple devices)...???
  

  edited December 2018
• Reply 13 of 26

  lkrupp Posts: 10,557member

  December 12, 2018 3:04PM

  bigpics said:

  Question:  So if you subscribe to Office 365, do you get to (download and) work in the full Mac OS version on your Mac and not in some browser version?
  
  And other than how you pay for it, are there any particular pros and cons between going with one or the other ways of purchasing (besides being licensed on multiple devices)...???
  

  I am an Office 365 subscriber and can verify it is the full version of Office Mac including Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and Outlook, the same version you get if you buy the standalone product. You download the full version directly from Microsoft. Instead of a product key your use of the product is tied to your subscription account. You also get 1TB of storage on OneDrive and 60 minutes of Skype per month. 
• Reply 14 of 26

  BuffyzDead Posts: 356member

  December 12, 2018 3:18PM

  Once you go Dark, ….You never go back !!

  
• Reply 15 of 26

  knowitall Posts: 1,648member

  December 12, 2018 4:42PM

  MplsP said:

  I'm trying to figure out what the big deal is with dark mode. I tried it - things looked different and often times it mad ether interface lest clear. (ex: try to tell if you're in a private browsing window in safari with dark mode!) In the end it really didn't matter and I switched it back. Beyond that, I have to use Outlook for work, and man is it a PITA to use!

  That’s really dark ...
• Reply 16 of 26

  knowitall Posts: 1,648member

  December 12, 2018 4:44PM

  MS products were already dark in every way, nothing new.

  
• Reply 17 of 26

  StrangeDays Posts: 12,877member

  December 12, 2018 8:30PM

  lkrupp said:

  MplsP said:

  I'm trying to figure out what the big deal is with dark mode. I tried it - things looked different and often times it mad ether interface lest clear. (ex: try to tell if you're in a private browsing window in safari with dark mode!) In the end it really didn't matter and I switched it back. Beyond that, I have to use Outlook for work, and man is it a PITA to use!

  But i installed the Office updates without issues and have to say that an Office 365 subscription has worked out well for me and my wife. The 1TB One Drive account included is nice along with Skype.  I don’t mind the subscription model for apps that I use everyday and are important to me for my data and finances, like Quicken. You’re always on the latest version and have little to worry about when it comes to compatibility with macOS or iOS. 

  I do. My copies of Lightroom, Photoshop, Word, (Quicken when I used to use it), are quite old and paid for...if I were paying constantly every month I'd have spent thousands more on them, for the same jobs. It's like leasing a car indefinitely rather than simply buying it outright. For non-enterprise users, we really don't need to pay a monthly lease to have the latest builds of these apps, as the primary functionality is well covered.
• Reply 18 of 26

  roundaboutnow Posts: 735member

  December 12, 2018 10:53PM

  The Office update also includes new, cleaner looking icons in the ribbon too. A much finer line is used on the icons, which renders nicely on a Retina display.

  
• Reply 19 of 26

  lorin schultz Posts: 2,771member

  December 12, 2018 10:59PM

  StrangeDays said:

  lkrupp said:

  MplsP said:

  I'm trying to figure out what the big deal is with dark mode. I tried it - things looked different and often times it mad ether interface lest clear. (ex: try to tell if you're in a private browsing window in safari with dark mode!) In the end it really didn't matter and I switched it back. Beyond that, I have to use Outlook for work, and man is it a PITA to use!

  But i installed the Office updates without issues and have to say that an Office 365 subscription has worked out well for me and my wife. The 1TB One Drive account included is nice along with Skype.  I don’t mind the subscription model for apps that I use everyday and are important to me for my data and finances, like Quicken. You’re always on the latest version and have little to worry about when it comes to compatibility with macOS or iOS. 

  I do. My copies of Lightroom, Photoshop, Word, (Quicken when I used to use it), are quite old and paid for...if I were paying constantly every month I'd have spent thousands more on them, for the same jobs. It's like leasing a car indefinitely rather than simply buying it outright. For non-enterprise users, we really don't need to pay a monthly lease to have the latest builds of these apps, as the primary functionality is well covered.

  I can't offer any opinion on Lightroom or Word as I don't use them, but I can tell you that Photoshop has actually improved a lot since v.6. I hate hate hate the premise of subscription software ("Pay in advance and we'll deliver something at some point, you just won't know what or when or be able to decide if its worth the cost for your uses"), and I cancelled my subscription for the full Adobe CC suite after the discounted first year. Then they offered Photoshop with Lightroom for $10 per month, and I bit.
  
  I keep wondering if Affinity Photo or Pixelmator might satisfy me (I actually like Affinity Design better than Illustrator), but to know for sure I'd have to do every project twice, so I could compare the results of things like masking hair, edge detection, etc. Who's got time for that?
  
  Anyway, you might want to give the basic Photoshop/Lightroom subscription a go. It's relatively inexpensive and the product really is better than the last version I owned outright.
• Reply 20 of 26

  maltz Posts: 454member

  December 12, 2018 11:02PM

  davidh2016 said:

  I tried dark mode for a week. I liked the look on the screen but I often have to print what I see on the screen including emails and contact cards. Unless I am interest in buying stock in HP to try an recoup the money I would spend on black toner cartridges, I decided dark mode is not for me.

  Dark mode doesn't affect printing, only the display on screen.